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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail
People who take loans to do business, most of the time spend extra money by borrowing extra money. They sometimes sell business goods to pay off the loan. We should borrow as much money as we need to do business.  Borrowing more than a few people will lead to problems. So those who have smart business sense will never covet for extra loans.
Nothing can be done more than necessity whether in debt food hatred or love because everything above necessity is harmful to us. In that case business is a more sensitive matter. So first of all we have to set our target and we should take as much loan as needed to achieve that target. Moreover if you have to bear the cost for that extra part, the greed of the business will decrease a lot and greed is a more terrible thing. So before starting our business we must have good and adequate knowledge about debt management.
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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail
People who take loans to do business, most of the time spend extra money by borrowing extra money. They sometimes sell business goods to pay off the loan. We should borrow as much money as we need to do business.  Borrowing more than a few people will lead to problems. So those who have smart business sense will never covet for extra loans.
I think it would be better if someone decided to take a loan for their business. It would be better for them to analyze first whether the business they are running will really develop well and if they think the business will continue to run well after they take out the loan and they will be able to pay off their loans and if they can't pay them off, it would be better for them to postpone the loan they want to take. You are right. Those who have business sense will certainly make decisions about their business and will never borrow beyond their means.
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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail
People who take loans to do business, most of the time spend extra money by borrowing extra money. They sometimes sell business goods to pay off the loan. We should borrow as much money as we need to do business.  Borrowing more than a few people will lead to problems. So those who have smart business sense will never covet for extra loans.
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Taking a loan to start a business from scratch is a huge risk because most businesses takes minimum of five years to stabilize. Depending on the nature of the business, the first few years are always full of trial, surprises and a lot of things that can make the business fail. Imagine taking a loan and the business fail, that is depression knocking at the door. Most loans I see in my country matures in three years and at most five years. In this case, the possibility of defaulting on this loan is high which is not good for a new business. Therefore, I will prefer pitching my business ideas to investors on the agreement of a share of the business. With this, I will not be under any pressure to repay loans that the profit form the business cannot even carry. 
startup usually on the side of a faster pace its unlike conventional business usually when there's MVP or product available it can go straight to the marketing trying to find as much user base as it can and then capitalize that amount to find an even bigger investor for the founder to increase the wealth and company valuation, I think they can eliminate the need to stabilize business, i mean current startup business model entirely depends on the massive money burning for gaining impressions and users anyway, its all about building brand that they can later on sell certain portion of the shares to the biggest investors.
so really in we are talking about the reality of building startup taking a loan won't cut it, thats not how most of the start up work, loan only works if we are building conventional business that requires scaling only then taking loan make sense.
but yeah, sometime loan just can be the worst idea ever when things are so uncertain we don't know what the direction our business gonna be taking.
its by far the most volatile and uncertain way to grow business but also the easiest way and the most profitable way to profit later on, no need to share the profit with anyone else.
i guess it just follows the common knowledge than the higher the risk the higher the rewards.

nonetheless, loan needed for a business also usually huge, there's no big money for people that aren't trustable by the banks so its another problem we need to face if we truly going down the path of getting all that profit for ourselves.
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Because partnering with investors is not as easy as we imagine, you must have a brand that is trusted and has a reputation in the market, then they will help increase your business reach more widely so that your business has the opportunity to compete in global business.
A startup don't have a brand yet and that's why it's not a problem for those that are proposing and trying to look for an investor.

Investors understand that but the struggle is there if the project owners or proponents won't get trust easily by the investors. The reputation is what at stake for the investors but they typically invest not only because of the potential of the business.

But also because they trust the proponents.
That’s the hardest part, of course they also want to be secured knowing they will risk their own money for simply a startup. If I were a big investor, I would also be hesitant to invest in an uncertain project knowing that anytime it will fail and lose all my money invested.
That's what I am telling, they invest first to the investors and next to their proposal if the business is feasible.

That’s why If I have a brilliant business idea and I really think it will hit big in the future, then I have to suicide on it. I will definitely take a loan to make my investment possible, even if there’s still uncertainty if it will prosper or not.
The same thing for me. Just as how we have invested on Bitcoin when no one is on our back, this is the risk that we will take 100% without any doubt but as much as possible, I'll take the funding from my own pocket.

If the business starts to grow, and I can't sustain it with my own funds, that's when I'll take a loan.
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 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?

If not that some people are just too greedy when you involve them as business partners i would have suggested to partner with someone that have the funds for you to start up your business then become a shareholder because currently now, taking loans is very risky because you can take a loan and the business may not function the way you thought it would initially and loans have intervals within which you and the lender agreed for a refund with some percentage of interest so if the agreed date approaches and you don't pay back it becomes a problem to you.

The only advice I can offer now is that the best way to start up a business without having a capital is to approach someone who you know that has the money then you present your business idea/plan to them and also reach an agreement with them that you will be giving them some percentage from the proceeds of the business but don't get them involved to partner with you because what most people do now is that if they establish a business for you and sees that the business is bringing out a lot of profits what they do is to sideline you from the business and claim that they were the ones that funded the capital used in establishing of the business so instead of them becoming a shareholder it is better to open the business and you remit a percentage maybe every month or week till you have settled the exact capital used in starting up the business then you can claim full ownereship.
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It has become commonplace for startups to try to get investors early in their development. Because by getting funding from investors, it allows startups to be able to develop their platforms in a more focused manner because usually investors will not only provide funding but also the network and support that startups need to be able to develop in the future. However, there are also startups that are trying to get a loan, but it will be riskier for them because they need to be responsible for their loan and are ready if their business becomes collateral for the loan.

You will be 100% happy when nobody knows anything about you. When you are running your business without the interfere of anybody, you are secure to some extent. although, you can not do it alone but when you are the real boss of your self, you are free to decide what ever decision you want to take. when I choose to go for a bank loan, I have the full control over it. Yes I know there are huge risks that are involve in going for a bank loan, if going for a loan will be more accessible and you have good ideas of what you are about to do with it, better take it and have the control and freedom. If you are afraid of risk taking, those who take it will hire you to work for them. So if I have technical ethics and business ethics, i will rather go for a loan. But if you are afraid of taking risk and that is what will stop you from going for loan, then ask your investors if he or she has ever taking risk, that is loan? the answer will be capital Yes!! if that should be the case, then why can't you do same? Our life is full of risks. Is better you take it than to work for those that took it since we can do it again and again If you fail don't quit get up and learn from the past mistake by so doing, there's hope you are going to be successful in the end.
Bank loans are a common issue in business. But loans are not a big problem if the business is managed well. Business is a very competitive thing, there is a lot of competition, so if you want to improve your business by dealing with those competitors, you need to use many new strategies.  No big business can run without bank loans. all businesses have bank loans.  So if I start a business or become a businessman then I must take a loan from a bank. and I will use them in the proper way so that the loan does not trouble me.
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Taking a loan to start a business from scratch is a huge risk because most businesses takes minimum of five years to stabilize. Depending on the nature of the business, the first few years are always full of trial, surprises and a lot of things that can make the business fail. Imagine taking a loan and the business fail, that is depression knocking at the door. Most loans I see in my country matures in three years and at most five years. In this case, the possibility of defaulting on this loan is high which is not good for a new business. Therefore, I will prefer pitching my business ideas to investors on the agreement of a share of the business. With this, I will not be under any pressure to repay loans that the profit form the business cannot even carry. 
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Because partnering with investors is not as easy as we imagine, you must have a brand that is trusted and has a reputation in the market, then they will help increase your business reach more widely so that your business has the opportunity to compete in global business.
A startup don't have a brand yet and that's why it's not a problem for those that are proposing and trying to look for an investor.

Investors understand that but the struggle is there if the project owners or proponents won't get trust easily by the investors. The reputation is what at stake for the investors but they typically invest not only because of the potential of the business.

But also because they trust the proponents.

It's tough  to earn that trust and with that same sentiment with both of you, struggle is really something that's needed to overcome,  it's more on how the proposal will be presented and how that proposals will be executed,  I believe that most of those who will give that golden opportunities are risking their money,  but that kind of trust that they providing if the project succeed then as investors they will also manifest decent amount of profits.

Both investors and the owner of the business needs to established the trust between them, the success of the business is more on how they will execute all the set plans and how for the better success of the  business.
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One of the major problem an average person that has an incredible business idea faces is the ability to raise the initial capital that's required to bring his ideas to life. and in solving this challenge, the available option has always ranged from iether taking a loan from a financial institution or seeking for investors that will take a particular percentage of the company and will in return provide the necessary financial support.

Considering these two options that's one of the easiest to get, taking a loan sometimes comes with a whole lot of strict terms and conditions and  with the high interest rate expecially in my region, it's even deficult to put that as an option. Looking at the case with most investors who are just looking for ways to double there already dormant funds, and care little about the owner of the business, it seems to be another problem dealing with them as most of the ratio they intend getting from you seems to be too big expecially when they already know that your proposed business have an higher chance of doing well in the long run.

I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;

 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?
I think it is better to start a business by partnering with a like-minded person if you want to start a business risk-free initially. As the loan interest rates are high and I am not clear on how much profit your contemplated business will bring. After the business becomes dynamic it will be convenient to take a loan later to increase the scope of the business.

I believe there are two main benefits to having a like-minded person as an investor or partner in your business. The first is that it will be easier to raise business life which is capital and the second is that business thinking will be more widespread and developed. It is known to all that two heads work better than one head. Besides it will be possible to develop the business in a very beautiful and smooth manner by sharing the pressure of business activities.
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It has become commonplace for startups to try to get investors early in their development. Because by getting funding from investors, it allows startups to be able to develop their platforms in a more focused manner because usually investors will not only provide funding but also the network and support that startups need to be able to develop in the future. However, there are also startups that are trying to get a loan, but it will be riskier for them because they need to be responsible for their loan and are ready if their business becomes collateral for the loan.

You will be 100% happy when nobody knows anything about you. When you are running your business without the interfere of anybody, you are secure to some extent. although, you can not do it alone but when you are the real boss of your self, you are free to decide what ever decision you want to take. when I choose to go for a bank loan, I have the full control over it. Yes I know there are huge risks that are involve in going for a bank loan, if going for a loan will be more accessible and you have good ideas of what you are about to do with it, better take it and have the control and freedom. If you are afraid of risk taking, those who take it will hire you to work for them. So if I have technical ethics and business ethics, i will rather go for a loan. But if you are afraid of taking risk and that is what will stop you from going for loan, then ask your investors if he or she has ever taking risk, that is loan? the answer will be capital Yes!! if that should be the case, then why can't you do same? Our life is full of risks. Is better you take it than to work for those that took it since we can do it again and again If you fail don't quit get up and learn from the past mistake by so doing, there's hope you are going to be successful in the end.
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Because partnering with investors is not as easy as we imagine, you must have a brand that is trusted and has a reputation in the market, then they will help increase your business reach more widely so that your business has the opportunity to compete in global business.
A startup don't have a brand yet and that's why it's not a problem for those that are proposing and trying to look for an investor.

Investors understand that but the struggle is there if the project owners or proponents won't get trust easily by the investors. The reputation is what at stake for the investors but they typically invest not only because of the potential of the business.

But also because they trust the proponents.
That’s the hardest part, of course they also want to be secured knowing they will risk their own money for simply a startup. If I were a big investor, I would also be hesitant to invest in an uncertain project knowing that anytime it will fail and lose all my money invested.

That’s why If I have a brilliant business idea and I really think it will hit big in the future, then I have to suicide on it. I will definitely take a loan to make my investment possible, even if there’s still uncertainty if it will prosper or not.
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Because partnering with investors is not as easy as we imagine, you must have a brand that is trusted and has a reputation in the market, then they will help increase your business reach more widely so that your business has the opportunity to compete in global business.
A startup don't have a brand yet and that's why it's not a problem for those that are proposing and trying to look for an investor.

Investors understand that but the struggle is there if the project owners or proponents won't get trust easily by the investors. The reputation is what at stake for the investors but they typically invest not only because of the potential of the business.

But also because they trust the proponents.
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exactly! unless you are born rich with generational wealth and capable to build a business even at your youngest age, but if you are just an ordinary person who earns minimum wage amount, i'll find it difficult for you to save money for your planned business, that's why having an investors is essential and if you haven't find any investors that are willing to invest in your project then loan is advisable as long as you are capable to pay the amount you owed.
You are right, we have a loan option to realize business plans that we hope to increase financial needs in the future, the loan option is not a bad decision as long as you can guarantee to pay every month without problems, but you have to understand the risks of business sometimes not being what we expected in fact we will despair if you are not ready to become a businessman, so make sure you have implemented every step to become a successful businessman, you have to go through many obstacles without giving up, when your business is successful then many investors will join your business.

Because partnering with investors is not as easy as we imagine, you must have a brand that is trusted and has a reputation in the market, then they will help increase your business reach more widely so that your business has the opportunity to compete in global business.
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I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;

 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?

As for me, if I have any good idea for a business and I am 80% sure that I will be successful, I will prefer to go for a loan. However, if the conditions of the loan do not suit my business because of the interest, I will try to get interested partners who can support me financially. Partnership in business is very good because you will always get support from others and additional opportunities for boosting the business.

If In business, nobody is 100% guaranteed to be successful loan is too risk to startup business.but With partnership, the risk on me will be reduced in case anything goes wrong later in the business. I have seen some people be successful with their business, but due to natural disasters, sometimes things go wrong business start to collapse. Additionally, if your business involves a partnership, even if you are no longer alive, the business can continue and your family will surely be benefit from it.
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In the end, it comes down to personal circumstances and the particulars of the company project. A few things to think about include the required capital, the business's possible risks and rewards, the experience and track record of the entrepreneur, and the conditions of the loan or investment. It is crucial to thoroughly consider the advantages and disadvantages of each choice and base your choice on what will work best for your company's long-term growth.
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Finding an investor isn't always an "option" for many people. I mean I had so many business ideas before, just going around asking people to give you their hard earned money, for % of just your idea makes no sense. You ask them to pay you for your idea and that is just idea nothing more.

This is why most people can't find a way to get investors, since they have no working product to show. In that situation, most of them do not even look for a loan neither, they could ask for a loan from a bank, but they do not trust themselves, I didn't, that is why they get nothing. But if I know that something will make me some money, then I guarantee you that I would just straight up look for something like a loan, if possible for a long term, it would be a lot better.

As you said, it is difficult to find investors. You need to be in the right place at the right time or people you know should be a reference for you to find investors. There can be many things like that, but in the end it is not easy to find investors.

An idea is always valuable, but finding the person who will invest in this idea is even more valuable. If we cannot find resources for our idea, we have to find investors. If we can't find investors, unfortunately the value of our idea decreases day by day.
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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail

exactly! unless you are born rich with generational wealth and capable to build a business even at your youngest age, but if you are just an ordinary person who earns minimum wage amount, i'll find it difficult for you to save money for your planned business, that's why having an investors is essential and if you haven't find any investors that are willing to invest in your project then loan is advisable as long as you are capable to pay the amount you owed.
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well your question has two side at me.

I think that if you sure enough of your business success then you should take a loan (you must be at least 70% sure)

personally I never like debt or loan and it caused me psychological sensitivity, some time I go 2 days without a cigarette just because I refuse to but it on my tap.

but again, a loan is a loan once you paid it you are set I mean imagine the guy who created Burger King had a loan instead of investor?
he would die having double the money he had.
it's like buying a mystery box that either have a 1 kilo of gold or lead and you have 2 chance with it
1-you buy it and lose everything or win everything
2-you buy it with 50% discount but both of your loses and wining will be taken by 50%

the only thing that make investors better option is the fact that he might help with the business (this can be good or bad depending what is the business and how smart he is)

the best choice is a third one, you save money and buy it all alone.
but since not everyone can afford it then I think investors is better.
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Indeed, the arrival of a new investor is 100% his decision to come and fund (even though there was a brief preview of a business before), even so as the owner of the company does not necessarily want to stand idly by the assets invested because for me the burden of responsibility and trust I also feel,

However, even though the loan only involves yourself, both the risk, use and rights of its obligations have more regular time / maturity that is determined ready or not ready.

The two sources of money are indeed contradictory, and I think using it in times of urgency for project growth needs is fine, as long as with good policies and calculations (making the back up bigger) than using it fully for the hype of a time.

Any project, even though it has been a long time, there must be a market shock, even careless use of money can slip into loss, especially new projects that are still in the growing stage. It is better to use your own assets as much as possible to research the market and strategy because the first 1 year is the adaptation period.
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