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If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?
If investors are easily available around you or the business is easy to attract investors then I would say finding investors is better than taking a loan.
But getting investors to start a new startup is very difficult, so don't start your business late to find investors. In that case I would say that if you cannot find investors or live in an area where it is difficult to find investors then I would say taking a loan would be better. Because many times in business it becomes difficult to get success if not starting at the right time. I have seen lots of giant Business company in my region that they start with small and when they got knew the market with full confidence they take loans to increase their business and they succeed.
So now it depends on your business and also your region area's what should be best for your starting.
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From my experience in business, I know that taking a loan to start up a new business is never a good option, and no bank or business minded individuals can give you money to start a business from scratch. It is either family and friends or people/NGOs that don't care about getting their money back, that can give money for a new startup. A new business should start first and know the demand for their products, only take a loan to increase stock on the areas that will sale fast,  so you can repay from your profit.

I support starting small and gradually begin to grow the business, although lack of funds can cripple a business before it picks up. So getting an investor is a good option in a startup business, so that the owner and investor will share in the profit and lose of the business, it's better to share profit with an investor, who will also bear loses with you, if it happens.
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It completely depends on the kind of startup and goals but I would rather prefer an investor instead of loans and paying the bank atrocious interest rate because that's one of the reason some promising startups have either gone bankrupt or taken over by bigger firms at fort cheap price. I think finding an investor would be better as we will have more flexibility though the profit margin would be reduced but this is better than taking loans.
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These days I am looking for basically something like this as well, and that makes sense. A lot of people do not have PC to do many of what AI can do, it requires some ram, and some gpu as well, and I am talking about video level stuff, not just images. I do not have time to learn a new skill, I do not have time to even do my own job these days, there are big medical emergencies in my life that requires me to go to hospital (not for myself, for a loved one) at any moment, today I got a call for example and had to go there, it was a terrible day, but I am back home now.

However, if I can buy a "great" PC, then people can send me their files, and my pc will work for me even when I am not at home. I am looking into this, because it would be a small income but still an income, a few hundred dollars per month but still money. I do not have any money at all, but an investor or a loan is what I will do, I just didn't have time to consider this yet. It is so funny that what I used to think, may now be actual question for me to, within just few days.
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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail
Honestly anyone that wanted to running a business and doesn't plan a big capital which means the person has never ready for business, because in this situations we're living in now every business deserves a big capital before starting. But will just go and start a business with a little amount of money without making a concrete arrangement and which is why many of people's lose to some of the business they try to put their self in too.

Morever, the main reason why some people's doesn't have a standard even though they start a business, some people's will go and apply for a loan amd if they ask them for which purposes they definitely said that for starting a business and and once the loans they applied as been granted they divide money into two they will take one part to to business and the other part to defferences things, and which is why most people's refuse to move forward in their business.
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Considering these two options that's one of the easiest to get, taking a loan sometimes comes with a whole lot of strict terms and conditions and  with the high interest rate expecially in my region, it's even deficult to put that as an option. Looking at the case with most investors who are just looking for ways to double there already dormant funds, and care little about the owner of the business, it seems to be another problem dealing with them as most of the ratio they intend getting from you seems to be too big expecially when they already know that your proposed business have an higher chance of doing well in the long run.

I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;
Loans require sudden repayment structure, that's the biggest trouble. If there was an option of "take the loan now, start paying a year later" then I would say that it would be better to keep 100% of your company.

Plus, if we could just take the loan on the companies name, meaning that if we fail to pay then the company bankrupts, then that would be fine too because it would mean that the business did not work, but when we are talking about a new one, you won't get a loan under the business name, you take it personally which means even if the business fails, you still have to pay it. That's why I believe that we are going to end up with loan not being the best option, but to be fair you can't find an investor that easily neither.
Banks would really be that giving out those terms on which they would really be at advantage which of course you would really be needing to pay up into those specific due dates. At first it would really be totally be explained on whats the payment structure. If you do find this to be a trouble then it would really be a take it or leave it kind of condition but honestly there's nothing that you could really be able to avoid
because no matter what the terms would be then you would really be needing to repay those loans in such time. This is why if you would really be deciding on taking up a loan on building up a business start up
then be sure that your company or business would really be that profitable or something that sustaining but since it would really be on its start up then it would really be hard to tell whether it would really be successful or not.

One of the biggest challenge is that on how you would really be that making that business to be successful. This is why every decisions would be made will really be that
acting to be a gamble or huge risks but of course if ever we do tend to have that kind of climbing up to success then we would be needing to try.
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Considering these two options that's one of the easiest to get, taking a loan sometimes comes with a whole lot of strict terms and conditions and  with the high interest rate expecially in my region, it's even deficult to put that as an option. Looking at the case with most investors who are just looking for ways to double there already dormant funds, and care little about the owner of the business, it seems to be another problem dealing with them as most of the ratio they intend getting from you seems to be too big expecially when they already know that your proposed business have an higher chance of doing well in the long run.

I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;
Loans require sudden repayment structure, that's the biggest trouble. If there was an option of "take the loan now, start paying a year later" then I would say that it would be better to keep 100% of your company.

Plus, if we could just take the loan on the companies name, meaning that if we fail to pay then the company bankrupts, then that would be fine too because it would mean that the business did not work, but when we are talking about a new one, you won't get a loan under the business name, you take it personally which means even if the business fails, you still have to pay it. That's why I believe that we are going to end up with loan not being the best option, but to be fair you can't find an investor that easily neither.
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I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;

 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?

My conclusions will depend on the terms and conditions that comes with the opportunity given. There are some countries that are really considerable with the interest rate that are granted for loans. In develop countries where government doesn't joke with MSMes, they make sure that the interest are small and they are given for long term so the business can expand and have enough money to pay back but in some countries where interest rate are high, I wouldn't go for loan, you will die making nothing even though the business succeed as you will spend the rest of your life paying back loan you took from the beginning.

If loan is not favorable, my best shot is Venture capitals, give them some equity percentage on the business, if my idea on the business is good, their input will help not just only me but the business and it will help it grow and also make some connections for expansion. Venture capitals are rally helpful if they are available and the share is favorable, not the one they will want to take 50% of the business because some of them are wicked.
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It has become commonplace for startups to try to get investors early in their development. Because by getting funding from investors, it allows startups to be able to develop their platforms in a more focused manner because usually investors will not only provide funding but also the network and support that startups need to be able to develop in the future. However, there are also startups that are trying to get a loan, but it will be riskier for them because they need to be responsible for their loan and are ready if their business becomes collateral for the loan.
As someone who has worked at startups before (not owned them, just employee) I can tell you that it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to get investors to be involved with the company.

Even if you can find someone who would be able to invest, which is quite rare and usually 99% of the startups are just ideas and not even a project yet, if anyone could ever find an investor, the investor usually do not want to work for the company, they want to just fund it and then get rich from it, if they are going to work, then they would have started their own new business on the side. Networking and other stuff are not that easy thing to do, having that network doesn't mean that you want to use it all the time, money can be earned, but respect takes time.
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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail
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That is definitely the problem with amateur trying to find investors who truly want their project succeed and willing to spend some money into cultivating the project into some extent, when we are talking about money we talking about trust, we all know newbie with no experience of building startup and successfully carrying it into multi millions value always getting ignored, moreover if we trying to find some big investors that willing to spend big money with a lot of uncertainty to cultivate our startup it becomes even more difficult, lets be frank here reputation and alma mater matters a lot in giving that good first impression into people, even more obvious when we trying to find a deal about investment to our startups, they will first judge based on our academic background, if we graduated from ivy league, it instantly gives good impression at the first meeting.
after that they will judge based on our achievement, if we have zero experience quite literally with the startup building, they probably gonna refuse to spend some money investing in our startup.

its always good to start out business from scratch even with loan first, don't set the bar too high, a thriving business that make profit is already good enough, it can work as a portfolio in our end and can elevate the value and self worth in the eyes of other.
what people seem to forget though, investors does manage their risk, they will avoid funding startup if they see no potential, they will judge the product as well based on their experience and sees whether it is fitting to be funded.
but what matter most is whether the business making profit, it reminds me of people that invest in meme coin heavily, they don't care about the idea, they just care to grow their capital and thats it.

It is true what you said, that many of them are beginners with good business ideas but are often ignored due to lack of experience and a strong background. Reputation and educational history can be a reference for providing an investor's assessment to beginners.

And if we still have a low reputation in the business world, and are not graduates of a well-known university, then it will really be quite difficult for us to get an investor. So in the end, in order to realize what has been planned, taking a loan is the last option.

However, even so, it is not a problem, starting a business with borrowed money. Because in the business world, it is better for us to have debt than to lose opportunities. And an entrepreneur must be able to take risks and dare to try every opportunity that comes. Because success will be born from big and bold steps.
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It has become commonplace for startups to try to get investors early in their development. Because by getting funding from investors, it allows startups to be able to develop their platforms in a more focused manner because usually investors will not only provide funding but also the network and support that startups need to be able to develop in the future. However, there are also startups that are trying to get a loan, but it will be riskier for them because they need to be responsible for their loan and are ready if their business becomes collateral for the loan.
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Nothing beats having your own capital where you alone have total control over the business. But, things don't always go as we desire it. Before going for any option of financing a business, it is very necessary that the entrepreneur reviews the terms and conditions of both options thoroughly before choosing. It is also necessary that whoever has an idea should have at least 50% of the needed capital while others comes from external sources.

For someone who loves to have total control over his/her business, getting an investor might become a problem in the future as personal interests, grudges and bias might set in. I think I fall into this category. It is better I start small with my small capital and a reasonable loan facility I can easily settle with ease than work hard to make profits that will be shared between I and a dormant partner. Those who can do better in partnerships can source for good investors and save themselves the stress of repaying loans and interests.
I would really be preferring myself to be a sole proprietor rather than on having tons of people who is also an owner of the said company or project but if you are really that in lacking up with some funds
then you wont really be having no choice but to bare up with those things that you dont like. The good thing on being a sole proprietor is that you could really be able to make yourself do the things that you do want
since  you do have that full control or rights then you arent that depending on someone or doesnt really on anything but rather yourself. There are really just that those instances that you are really that eager on trying out to materialize your idea but you dont have any options since you do lack money, you cant take up a loan nor be able to borrow to those people you do know.

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It has been said before that everything depends on the circumstances. If you have the knowledge, motivation, money and time to build your own business, it is great! but we usually lack some of these resources, and that's when a partnership with others is advisable.

We focus on the case of the entrepreneur who lacks the money to build his/her business, but it can be also positive to have a partner who knows a lot about management in general, or a niche market in particular, or who knows influencial people, when the entrepreneur doesn't. Or viceversa, someone who has the money, contacts, know-how etc. but doesn't have time to run the business and needs a partner to work in the idea.

Without knowing about the skills, personality etc. of the partners, and the needs they have, we can't conclude whether it is better to build your business on your own, or accompanied.
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Nothing beats having your own capital where you alone have total control over the business. But, things don't always go as we desire it. Before going for any option of financing a business, it is very necessary that the entrepreneur reviews the terms and conditions of both options thoroughly before choosing. It is also necessary that whoever has an idea should have at least 50% of the needed capital while others comes from external sources.

For someone who loves to have total control over his/her business, getting an investor might become a problem in the future as personal interests, grudges and bias might set in. I think I fall into this category. It is better I start small with my small capital and a reasonable loan facility I can easily settle with ease than work hard to make profits that will be shared between I and a dormant partner. Those who can do better in partnerships can source for good investors and save themselves the stress of repaying loans and interests.
I would really be preferring myself to be a sole proprietor rather than on having tons of people who is also an owner of the said company or project but if you are really that in lacking up with some funds
then you wont really be having no choice but to bare up with those things that you dont like. The good thing on being a sole proprietor is that you could really be able to make yourself do the things that you do want
since  you do have that full control or rights then you arent that depending on someone or doesnt really on anything but rather yourself. There are really just that those instances that you are really that eager on trying out to materialize your idea but you dont have any options since you do lack money, you cant take up a loan nor be able to borrow to those people you do know.

Also, finding up investors online is never been easy even if you've been deciding to get one or a couple of investors but still it wont really be that a guarantee that you do get one due to some trust issues.
This is why at the moment that you have lost all of those possible options then you would really be just sitting down and just missed up those opportunities since you dont have any options.
There are really things which arent meant for us.
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Nothing beats having your own capital where you alone have total control over the business. But, things don't always go as we desire it. Before going for any option of financing a business, it is very necessary that the entrepreneur reviews the terms and conditions of both options thoroughly before choosing. It is also necessary that whoever has an idea should have at least 50% of the needed capital while others comes from external sources.

For someone who loves to have total control over his/her business, getting an investor might become a problem in the future as personal interests, grudges and bias might set in. I think I fall into this category. It is better I start small with my small capital and a reasonable loan facility I can easily settle with ease than work hard to make profits that will be shared between I and a dormant partner. Those who can do better in partnerships can source for good investors and save themselves the stress of repaying loans and interests.
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If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?
Looking for investors is a safer choice because the risk is smaller than looking for a loan, with note that we must be prepared to get smaller profits and there is a chance that our business will be intervened by investors if the cooperation agreement is not clear
Taking loan when the business you are running is not going well we still have to pay off the debt, but for beginner both are things that are difficult to obtain, so beginners will always have difficulty financing their business unless that is the case. is a business that is already running just needs additional capital.
So what is better is to start the business with limited capital and after that it is developed and when the form is visible then we can start looking for investors or loans to make our business even bigger.
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When it comes to a startup, it's important to understand that no matter how passionate you personally feel about the project, there's a good chance it will fail to deliver what's expected from it. That makes taking a loan incredibly risky, as there's no guarantee you'll be able to return that money. As for investors, I think it's not a bad idea per se, as long as it's articulated in the contract that you cannot guarantee profit or even return of the invested money. Investment happens at the personal risk of investors. Ideally, I'd be looking for a third option, such as saving up money to give it a shot, or looking for a grant to kick-start the project. When you get a grant, you do usually need to report the results back, but you don't need to return money to anyone. Grantors are not going to profit from the result in any way, so there are no direct expectations in that regard.


I think when we want to start up a business we should also have a lot of plans because just as you said what of the project did not go as planned a lot of business have crashed just because the person that established it did not make plans incase a challenge is encountered and their ia no way you can aviod challenges when you want to startup business. With the short analysis you gave and when the start up is based on loan and things did not go as planned then you become a loan defaulter because how do you pay back the loan when their are no plans made it will be better to get investors and their will be a share in percentage.


That's much more better than going to take loan. And talk of the interest attached to the loan the longer the duration the higher the profit. And investor will be considerate because they know how start ups are and everything will be legally documented so they know the risk when investing in start ups. The best advice will still for you to go for investors that. Taking loan.
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 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?
If I have a good business plan then I'll take a risk on my idea by taking a loan and be responsible for how I oversee my business I am answerable to myself and I am more motivated since its my reputation is the one at stake here, no investor will come and ask the progress and the status of the business

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Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?
If it's a start up I prefer to be on my own and when the project will be moving on the next level that will be the time that I will onboard people in my business but it has to be people who can contribute with ideas and not just money.
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When you get investors to invest money into your business, they want a share in the day-to-day operations and if they have a controlling percentage of the "shares" they can execute a hostile takeover of your business, when you become succesful or they can sabotage your decisions with their own agendas.
Not all of the wants to get involved. I think there will be a few that just want to lay money and become an investor without doing anything. They're just there as funders but choose the ones that will contribute to the business if you're getting investors that can help your business thrive.
But be careful, because they might change the actual game plan of the business to what they think is right and you as the CEO or owner, still has got the final say with your operation processes.
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Different people will have different perspectives regarding this based on their understanding and thought processes. I would say it depends on how confident you are about your business idea. If you think that your business idea is great and the chances of it succeeding are way higher than it failing then I would say it is better to take a loan and fund your business with it because even though you might need to pay some interest, you will at least be the only owner of the business when it is all setup and running very well.

When you get an investor for your business on the agreement that they will get a certain percentage of share in the business, it can be a costly deal because once the business starts growing, you will have to give a larger percentage to the partner than you might have to give back as the repayment for the loan.

I think the same, a lot depends on how confident someone is in their idea. In addition, the idea itself is important, while some business plans require a lot of money for implementation and initial work, some plans can start more slowly and on a smaller scale... which provides a lot of time to upgrade over time.

So it's foolish to talk about who would do what in this case without knowing all the factors. It's nice to take a loan and have full control over your business plans, but it's not bad to have investors and share with them both the good and the bad... if the business takes off, there will be less profit, but if everything fails, you can't bear the full burden of it. Basically, without knowing all the factors and thinking everything through, it's hard to say anything more about this.


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