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It depends on the contract. If you can find an investor that isn’t greedy, then that’s a great option because investors are usually better than loans. When you have an investor, if anything goes wrong, it’s his money that goes, you’re not held responsible as he knew the risk. If you take a loan, they don’t care what you did to the money, you have to pay it back. But there are some contracts with investors that can make you consider a loan that you would an investor.
Of course having a contract is a must.You should never do any business with anybody if there is no possible contract, that way everything will put into legality with the presence of a licensed attorney.

Now investors are actually greedy since it’s their money that are being risked in the first place. However, your responsibility here is to act as a business partner, so that you can ensure that everything in your business idea is followed so that the success will be certain, unless if the investor itself will find his own way on achieving the business’ success.

Indeed, that’s all it cost when you have an investor, that’s the major point with which we can say that investors are better than loan because all you have to apply is as much as your intellectual property of the said business, if it fails, you just have to prove that you did your best. But it would be great if you could make it work out because it’ll leave a track record that you’ve done something with an investor and it went well. Just in case you have future ideas and would need investors again. It is something that would boost their confidence.
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I'll choose to get an investor because I don't yet have experience running a profitable business with positive cash flow. By finding an investor, I must prepare a pitch deck, which forces me to continuously improve and verify my ideas. I also learn how to convince investors. This is a very good experience. So, besides getting a cash injection , I can learn more about the potential of my ideas because I need to convince investors by answering their concerns.

I have not seen where loan is giving in a favorable condition, but if you are getting a loan from someone who is God fearing with interest rate and conditions looks cool, you will enjoy loan as well but as I said, the loan interest rate and other conditions has to be favorable. Have you look at it in a way that you have a place you will have interest rate less than 10% with long term payback, you will run that business with rest of mind and wouldn't mind the zigzag movement that may come later, your aim is to succeed.

Don't forget that investors are mean people, they might agree to give you money but it comes with a cost, they may ask you to give them some of the business equity before they can loan you money whether a cash flow or fixed cash. You will be the one to run the business and you must succeed but after everything, they take their own percentage at the end of the day. Nothing is easy when it comes to running a business buddy.
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It depends on the contract. If you can find an investor that isn’t greedy, then that’s a great option because investors are usually better than loans. When you have an investor, if anything goes wrong, it’s his money that goes, you’re not held responsible as he knew the risk. If you take a loan, they don’t care what you did to the money, you have to pay it back. But there are some contracts with investors that can make you consider a loan that you would an investor.
Of course having a contract is a must.You should never do any business with anybody if there is no possible contract, that way everything will put into legality with the presence of a licensed attorney.

Now investors are actually greedy since it’s their money that are being risked in the first place. However, your responsibility here is to act as a business partner, so that you can ensure that everything in your business idea is followed so that the success will be certain, unless if the investor itself will find his own way on achieving the business’ success.
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There are both risk and advantages in terms of that both side, more likely the point is how you trust your idea and how will you deal in selling it with the investors, or, how good you think the potentials and work with barrowing or loaning the finances thru banking, there's always fessibility studies that you need to conduct before you decide if which path you'll want to resort your finances, I like that idea about investors who can shares idea on how you can improve your business, unlike with banks where the intention is to gain profits alone, but with investors since they also risking their money, there's chance that they will also put some fresh ideas that will let you to link or to adopt with good adjsutments for the betterment of the business.
The bigger risk is at the investor. The person who is working on making their "dream" come true, or even just making a business that they want to try, isn't spending anything but their time, that's it, their time, and they are even getting paid for it, by the investors basically. Investor on the other hand is putting up their money, and that is the risk we are talking about.

I have seen people get thousands of dollars for basically doing nothing and promising everything in the crypto world, go look at launchpads and the highest funded ones, you will see that most have nothing at all but promise to be better in the future. That is a risk by investors not risk by the devs of those projects because they are risking nothing at all.

And it's true as the chance that developers will runaway with the money is possible to happen, the risk for those investors to lose after entrusting their money to those people behind the project can take place, same with what you mentioned,  it's easy for those developers to propose and seek for investors trust but the outcome is not assure that the investors will surely gain,  though if in case the project succeed,  then that risk will be converted to a decent amount of profits.
Thats why there were no instances that there are some funding or having those kind of corporation in between building a new project on which we know that scams and frauds could really happen into these kind of transactions and this is why investors cant really be able to trust up specially online on which that devs arent that Doxxed or know. So there would really be no assurance that you would really be able to have as an investor. So it would really be just that common sense that you wouldnt really be that making yourself having that security then it would be common sense that you cant really just that trust them up. So it would
really be better that you should really know on what you are dealing with.

If you are someone who do tend to make a business or investment then its impossible that you could get some investor online. So the nearest option that
you could really be having is on that you should really be taking up some loan neither on your relatives or loved ones or your last resort would really be on banks or
financing. So it would really be just that on your own choice.
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There are both risk and advantages in terms of that both side, more likely the point is how you trust your idea and how will you deal in selling it with the investors, or, how good you think the potentials and work with barrowing or loaning the finances thru banking, there's always fessibility studies that you need to conduct before you decide if which path you'll want to resort your finances, I like that idea about investors who can shares idea on how you can improve your business, unlike with banks where the intention is to gain profits alone, but with investors since they also risking their money, there's chance that they will also put some fresh ideas that will let you to link or to adopt with good adjsutments for the betterment of the business.
The bigger risk is at the investor. The person who is working on making their "dream" come true, or even just making a business that they want to try, isn't spending anything but their time, that's it, their time, and they are even getting paid for it, by the investors basically. Investor on the other hand is putting up their money, and that is the risk we are talking about.

I have seen people get thousands of dollars for basically doing nothing and promising everything in the crypto world, go look at launchpads and the highest funded ones, you will see that most have nothing at all but promise to be better in the future. That is a risk by investors not risk by the devs of those projects because they are risking nothing at all.

And it's true as the chance that developers will runaway with the money is possible to happen, the risk for those investors to lose after entrusting their money to those people behind the project can take place, same with what you mentioned,  it's easy for those developers to propose and seek for investors trust but the outcome is not assure that the investors will surely gain,  though if in case the project succeed,  then that risk will be converted to a decent amount of profits.
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I often watch YouTube videos that discuss this, the majority of the discussions explain in detail the advantages and disadvantages of both and from watching videos on YouTube that discuss this, I see that waiting for investors is much better than making loans to banks, especially when start-ups have There is a big risk of loss, so borrowing money from the bank to start a start-up is the wrong thing to do.
You are right, anything associated with loan conveys an interest fee attached to the loaned amount and In some cases there is a very big interest rate on the loaned amount which the borrower might find it difficult to easily meet up the demand for the repayment schedule as agreed by both parties, pushing the borrower to a very difficult situation where he/she would have to work beyond measures just to meet up. Investors are the best measures to grow a firm or business, only percentage of profit to be shared will be agreed on giving the business owner enough space to work on the business easier and be more efficient.
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I often watch YouTube videos that discuss this, the majority of the discussions explain in detail the advantages and disadvantages of both and from watching videos on YouTube that discuss this, I see that waiting for investors is much better than making loans to banks, especially when start-ups have There is a big risk of loss, so borrowing money from the bank to start a start-up is the wrong thing to do.
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It depends on the contract. If you can find an investor that isn’t greedy, then that’s a great option because investors are usually better than loans. When you have an investor, if anything goes wrong, it’s his money that goes, you’re not held responsible as he knew the risk. If you take a loan, they don’t care what you did to the money, you have to pay it back. But there are some contracts with investors that can make you consider a loan that you would an investor.
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I'll choose to get an investor because I don't yet have experience running a profitable business with positive cash flow. By finding an investor, I must prepare a pitch deck, which forces me to continuously improve and verify my ideas. I also learn how to convince investors. This is a very good experience. So, besides getting a cash injection , I can learn more about the potential of my ideas because I need to convince investors by answering their concerns.
And another thing is that you can start from gathering information about the investment, and talk to people that are in similar businesses, because business you need information to be able to operate. And start first won’t be easy since their is no experience, the challenges you face will be were you will start getting your own experience from. Because even with your research what you experience will be the teacher you need. And having the idea and an investor at the same time just makes everything very easy. That is exactly were the work is to convince investors to invest in your idea, if the business is from the scratch then you need a lot to convince them to invest, they will be scared and also be in a state of confusion either to risk it or not but majority of this investment have experience and they know a good idea when they see one so they won’t just spend their money on ideas that won’t fetch them money. So if you are going with investors then you need to do your research well and have a good convincing spirit.
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Finding an investor isn't always an "option" for many people. I mean I had so many business ideas before, just going around asking people to give you their hard earned money, for % of just your idea makes no sense. You ask them to pay you for your idea and that is just idea nothing more.

This is why most people can't find a way to get investors, since they have no working product to show. In that situation, most of them do not even look for a loan neither, they could ask for a loan from a bank, but they do not trust themselves, I didn't, that is why they get nothing. But if I know that something will make me some money, then I guarantee you that I would just straight up look for something like a loan, if possible for a long term, it would be a lot better.

As you said, it is difficult to find investors. You need to be in the right place at the right time or people you know should be a reference for you to find investors. There can be many things like that, but in the end it is not easy to find investors.

An idea is always valuable, but finding the person who will invest in this idea is even more valuable. If we cannot find resources for our idea, we have to find investors. If we can't find investors, unfortunately the value of our idea decreases day by day.
Investors can only be hard to find if they think your business idea is not valuable enough and not worthy to risk of their funds. As much as your own idea is priceless, the money they are going to risk is even more valuable than what you think. So it’s always the concern of the investors first that you are going to prioritize rather than putting your idea at its highest value. If you can easily adjust to that, you will end up looking for investors easily as long as you go directly asking to its potential investors, not on the fake ones.
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I'll choose to get an investor because I don't yet have experience running a profitable business with positive cash flow. By finding an investor, I must prepare a pitch deck, which forces me to continuously improve and verify my ideas. I also learn how to convince investors. This is a very good experience. So, besides getting a cash injection , I can learn more about the potential of my ideas because I need to convince investors by answering their concerns.
That is actually quite smart but how hard could it be to try and learn things by yourself first before trying to bring in other people to meddle with your own business? Consultants are okay but once you start bringing people in that could alter the direction of your business, it might become too complicated.

There is no shame in being a beginner and learning how things work first and maybe even making a few mistakes. Seems better than letting the decisions be ran by other people who might even do some work before your back.
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One of the major problem an average person that has an incredible business idea faces is the ability to raise the initial capital that's required to bring his ideas to life. and in solving this challenge, the available option has always ranged from iether taking a loan from a financial institution or seeking for investors that will take a particular percentage of the company and will in return provide the necessary financial support.

Considering these two options that's one of the easiest to get, taking a loan sometimes comes with a whole lot of strict terms and conditions and  with the high interest rate expecially in my region, it's even deficult to put that as an option. Looking at the case with most investors who are just looking for ways to double there already dormant funds, and care little about the owner of the business, it seems to be another problem dealing with them as most of the ratio they intend getting from you seems to be too big expecially when they already know that your proposed business have an higher chance of doing well in the long run.

I know that as a start-up, these sources could potentially help your business to upscale at a very sharp pace and that from the angle of allowing an investor to buy into your business, you could get other added advantage like getting advice and connection that will help boost your business but I'm just curious to ask;

 If you have a well thought out business idea but don't have the needed capital to keep it functional, is getting a loan the best option or looking for interested investors?

Would trying to start up the business in your own little way the best option or can you consider bringing a third party into the business who will just serve as a partner that contributes just money?

I'll choose to get an investor because I don't yet have experience running a profitable business with positive cash flow. By finding an investor, I must prepare a pitch deck, which forces me to continuously improve and verify my ideas. I also learn how to convince investors. This is a very good experience. So, besides getting a cash injection , I can learn more about the potential of my ideas because I need to convince investors by answering their concerns.
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There are both risk and advantages in terms of that both side, more likely the point is how you trust your idea and how will you deal in selling it with the investors, or, how good you think the potentials and work with barrowing or loaning the finances thru banking, there's always fessibility studies that you need to conduct before you decide if which path you'll want to resort your finances, I like that idea about investors who can shares idea on how you can improve your business, unlike with banks where the intention is to gain profits alone, but with investors since they also risking their money, there's chance that they will also put some fresh ideas that will let you to link or to adopt with good adjsutments for the betterment of the business.
The bigger risk is at the investor. The person who is working on making their "dream" come true, or even just making a business that they want to try, isn't spending anything but their time, that's it, their time, and they are even getting paid for it, by the investors basically. Investor on the other hand is putting up their money, and that is the risk we are talking about.

I have seen people get thousands of dollars for basically doing nothing and promising everything in the crypto world, go look at launchpads and the highest funded ones, you will see that most have nothing at all but promise to be better in the future. That is a risk by investors not risk by the devs of those projects because they are risking nothing at all.
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For me getting an investor is the best of the two. One simple reason is that if a business fails you still have to pay the the loan taken, but with an investor, you both share the loss. Losing a business and having so much debt to pay afterwards is a very difficult place to come out of.
Also, the amount of money you'll get from the investor(s) you'll most likely not get from a loan. Financial institutions won't want to fund the whole of your business, it's too much of a risk. They'll either give you part of the money or none at all.

Besides, I always wonder why people are opposed to getting investors for their businesses. If you really want that business to be as big as you want, you're going to sell shares eventually because you'll need those capitals from somewhere, so why be scared of a third party?

I think many people are afraid of third parties simply because they do not want to share their business with anyone. Some people may not have enough money to start a business, but they can decide to take a loan rather than work with an investor to start a business. We must understand that getting a loan from a bank is very risky because if you do not repay the loan on the repayment date, the bank will not extend the repayment date, and even if they do, they will still need additional profits in return. If the business fails, the bank is unconcerned about your losses, you will return their money or seize your property. Another advantage of working with an investor is that he may bring new ideas that will help the business grow. A bank cannot advise how to build your business because they are also in business, which is to give people loans to start their business and repay them with interest, and an investor will never request interest unless his share with the company.

There are both risk and advantages in terms of that both side, more likely the point is how you trust your idea and how will you deal in selling it with the investors, or, how good you think the potentials and work with barrowing or loaning the finances thru banking, there's always fessibility studies that you need to conduct before you decide if which path you'll want to resort your finances, I like that idea about investors who can shares idea on how you can improve your business, unlike with banks where the intention is to gain profits alone, but with investors since they also risking their money, there's chance that they will also put some fresh ideas that will let you to link or to adopt with good adjsutments for the betterment of the business.
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People who take loans to do business, most of the time spend extra money by borrowing extra money. They sometimes sell business goods to pay off the loan. We should borrow as much money as we need to do business.  Borrowing more than a few people will lead to problems. So those who have smart business sense will never covet for extra loans.
I think it would be better if someone decided to take a loan for their business. It would be better for them to analyze first whether the business they are running will really develop well and if they think the business will continue to run well after they take out the loan and they will be able to pay off their loans and if they can't pay them off, it would be better for them to postpone the loan they want to take. You are right. Those who have business sense will certainly make decisions about their business and will never borrow beyond their means.
This is true in the sense that if you do not want to share ownership of your company then you would be doing a justice to them. I mean it's obvious that whenever someone gives control of their company then they are going to regret it when it fails, because they could have done better job. However, there are few situations like "wework" where the person sells parts of their company to investors and grow, and then sell the last part and be rich while the company goes under.

I think loans are quite good, it would make it possible for them to grow and keep growing, they are called "line of credit" meaning that they take whatever they need, whenever they need it, instead of getting a loan lump sum, which is why I think line of credits are great.
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For me getting an investor is the best of the two. One simple reason is that if a business fails you still have to pay the the loan taken, but with an investor, you both share the loss. Losing a business and having so much debt to pay afterwards is a very difficult place to come out of.
Also, the amount of money you'll get from the investor(s) you'll most likely not get from a loan. Financial institutions won't want to fund the whole of your business, it's too much of a risk. They'll either give you part of the money or none at all.

Besides, I always wonder why people are opposed to getting investors for their businesses. If you really want that business to be as big as you want, you're going to sell shares eventually because you'll need those capitals from somewhere, so why be scared of a third party?

I think many people are afraid of third parties simply because they do not want to share their business with anyone. Some people may not have enough money to start a business, but they can decide to take a loan rather than work with an investor to start a business. We must understand that getting a loan from a bank is very risky because if you do not repay the loan on the repayment date, the bank will not extend the repayment date, and even if they do, they will still need additional profits in return. If the business fails, the bank is unconcerned about your losses, you will return their money or seize your property. Another advantage of working with an investor is that he may bring new ideas that will help the business grow. A bank cannot advise how to build your business because they are also in business, which is to give people loans to start their business and repay them with interest, and an investor will never request interest unless his share with the company.
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I will not advise for someone starting up a new business to take a loan for it, that is a bad way of starting, instead they can learn to earn and have or build up a start up capital for themself than borrowing, but the option of getting an investor is also not a bad idea in this regards, but when we have gotten one, we must be able to ensure that the terms and conditions involved are what we can comply with, lastly, we must not disappoint our investors by having a failure in what we do, so its a must that the business must be productive.

Yes I concur due to past experiences on loan to start up a new business, it's a wrong move by any business taccum most our society today where inflation is hitting hard and market keeps changing and individual keeps dropping on their demand on consumption, if the product is consumables such loan one may be running into loss as some may hit expiration date because many citizens has cut down their expenditure.

One advantage for get investor is cutting down the risk as it serves as a shared risk in terms of loss but one must keep to term and conditions justdunamisx has said put effort to actualize the dream not to relax since the source is not from him by only targeting it's benefits rather than to make reality unlike when the capital is coming from him.
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I'd much prefer a loan because with loans, I know that there's nothing they can do in my business decisions besides reminding me of the loan repayment or they will do some repossession of some kind, with investors especially if you're a startup, it's going to be a really difficult thing for you because you're making a vision for yourself and you can't really do that vision in your startup business if someone wants you to do this or that they want you to move this direction, it's a really difficult situation that's going to be really annoying for you when you mistake getting into it. Maybe you're a lucky one and you find an investor that's willing to fund your startup without any interference from them but that's not something that you'd see everyday.
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Running a business definitely requires a lot of capital which one cannot meet with just his own pocket money.  So everyone has to go towards more or less loans. Business loans are an important thing.  However, many types of calculations must be completed while taking this loan. one borrows more than necessary and wastes that money, then he will be in great danger and will not be able to profit from the business. His business will fail
People who take loans to do business, most of the time spend extra money by borrowing extra money. They sometimes sell business goods to pay off the loan. We should borrow as much money as we need to do business.  Borrowing more than a few people will lead to problems. So those who have smart business sense will never covet for extra loans.
I think it would be better if someone decided to take a loan for their business. It would be better for them to analyze first whether the business they are running will really develop well and if they think the business will continue to run well after they take out the loan and they will be able to pay off their loans and if they can't pay them off, it would be better for them to postpone the loan they want to take. You are right. Those who have business sense will certainly make decisions about their business and will never borrow beyond their means.
It all depends on how big or small the business we are running and also a thorough risk calculation before deciding because looking for a loan and looking for an investor have very significant differences and also different risks.
Personally, I think we have to be astute in looking at all possible profits and also possible risks and if borrowing will pose a big risk to ourselves and also the business we run, I think looking for investors would be a much better and safer way.
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One of the major problem an average person that has an incredible business idea faces is the ability to raise the initial capital that's required to bring his ideas to life. and in solving this challenge, the available option has always ranged from either taking a loan from a financial institution or seeking for investors that will take a particular percentage of the company and will in return provide the necessary financial support.
It's not advisable to take loan when you don't have a running business. I believe those that take loan are people who may have invested in a particular business for long, and know the gain they might be getting, so they may decides to take a loan to make more profit from their existing business. taken a loan when you don't know Much about the business will only put you into more depth. The business that requires to take a loan as a Start up is a kind of business you have done before and knows how it is operated or a business you know you must surely make profit before taken the loan. Or you can as well look for partner that you will introduce into the business, that will finance that business then when the money comes you both can share it accordingly on how you decide.
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