Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms? - page 2.

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Quote from: danadc on August 10, 2022, 10:02:59 PM

Yes, I understand, but then we will give our support to all products that are of Ukrainian origin, I live in Ecuador and it is very difficult for things to arrive from Ukraine or Russia, what comes the most is from the USA, I don't know how I could do to help the Ukrainian people, I am sure that many people where I am in Quito would be very pleased to help too, there are some Bitcoin addresses to deposit, but there must be other ways.

the world has seen that no sanction has worked for the Russia and it is not easy to put the Russia down
So better stop thinking about putting more sanctions on Russia and move on!

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Lately I have been seeing that the Russian attacks have been more incessant and that they have not respected any of the agreements, so if they do not comply, because Russia blames Ukraine and Ukraine blames Russia, what do they want to achieve? end the world? I think that the boycott would not do much, it would only end the business of the Russians, but would it fix this war? If the boycott worked to end the war, then let it be, otherwise I don't see any use for it, what do you think?

It is a decision that each person needs to take, when it comes to a business decision we may think that all what matters are the profits but most of the time that is not the case, if you like or feel more identified towards a company then you will prefer to spend your money there than doing so in another company despite having better prices.

This is similar, many people do not agree with the aggressive posture of the Russian government and we also do not have the means to stop the war, so what to do? You can do nothing but some people have elected to show support for Ukrainian products while boycotting those which come from Russia, it is a natural reaction and even if it does not fix anything people are free to take whichever choice they think it is best for them.

Yes, I understand, but then we will give our support to all products that are of Ukrainian origin, I live in Ecuador and it is very difficult for things to arrive from Ukraine or Russia, what comes the most is from the USA, I don't know how I could do to help the Ukrainian people, I am sure that many people where I am in Quito would be very pleased to help too, there are some Bitcoin addresses to deposit, but there must be other ways.

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Quote from: Theones on August 09, 2022, 12:10:35 AM

Quote from: Hamphser on August 08, 2022, 04:45:33 PM

duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.

I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not

You know that there are things which so to be called as ethical basing up on the situation or crisis then usually it would really be ending up on considering those sanctions yet this do mainly shows about supporting

against on the said country but its true that on every decisions that be made then there's always a corresponding con's into that and we've seen that one and it did really affect that oil/gas supply

specially into those neighboring countries but there's nothing we can do if majority of countries will really be making such decisions.

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Quote from: Hamphser on August 08, 2022, 04:45:33 PM

duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.

I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 07, 2022, 02:23:07 AM

Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

I think Russia doesn't care about these little things. There will be no impact on any such gambling platform. If they can properly utilize the amount of natural resources they have, they do not need any other sector. Moreover, those gamblers who are used to gambling there are actually gambling of that particular site. It has no effect on stopping the war so other issues should be discussed logically.

Russia have got abundant resources, which might bring wealth to the country. We cannot connect sports with wealth making. Sports is to have a social relationship within countries. Through the war Russia have terminated itself from the rest of the world countries. Very few authorities have banned Russian players which is not fair. Slowly things will change, and most of the sportsman are against war.

Even what things does other countries would be trying to do even cutting off ties and other related as long your are Russian but it wont really be enough reason for them to stop the war.If we do tend to look the

duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.

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Quote from: BobK71 on August 08, 2022, 10:16:02 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 07, 2022, 05:17:48 AM

Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 07, 2022, 02:23:07 AM

Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

I think Russia doesn't care about these little things. There will be no impact on any such gambling platform. If they can properly utilize the amount of natural resources they have, they do not need any other sector. Moreover, those gamblers who are used to gambling there are actually gambling of that particular site. It has no effect on stopping the war so other issues should be discussed logically.

Russia have got abundant resources, which might bring wealth to the country. We cannot connect sports with wealth making. Sports is to have a social relationship within countries. Through the war Russia have terminated itself from the rest of the world countries. Very few authorities have banned Russian players which is not fair. Slowly things will change, and most of the sportsman are against war.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 08, 2022, 10:08:07 AM

Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 07, 2022, 02:23:07 AM

Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

That's the main problem of any form of sanctions, how many countries will be part of it and are there loopholes to soften the impact of sanctions. If you ask Western countries now they will tell you that the sanctions are working very well and the Russian economy is collapsing. But what about the rest of the world? It seems that Russia is making new trade deals with India, Iran, China and some smaller countries. More sanctions also means to divide the world even further. I am against boycotting casinos just because they are being operated out of Russia. I wish there were negotiations again between Ukraine and Russia to end this war.

Boycotts can only work when there is union among another countries, so the excluded country won't have anyone to supply it. As we see it's not what is happening to Russia, since they have many allies and I suspect even inside western countries who openly imposed sanctions on them.

West will never confess Russia is still strong and sanctions aren't enough, because first of all the whole sanctions thing is a political propaganda to decrease the enemy's morale and create a confidence sentiment in our socities that Russia isn't a threat to the world.

To boycott russian casinos will have only moral impacts on those who choose doing this, so they can sleep with a clean conscience they aren't financing Putin's regime and war in anyways... Unfortunatelly, the biggest portion of the money which is being used to run the war machine isn't coming from this industry, so practical effects are almost zero.

About negotiations it seems not possible, because how do you negotiate with an enemy who isn't open to diplomacy and has as main and only goal the conquest of your territory? The only alternatives for Ukraine is to fight or resign...

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 07, 2022, 05:17:48 AM

Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 07, 2022, 02:23:07 AM

Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

I think Russia doesn't care about these little things. There will be no impact on any such gambling platform. If they can properly utilize the amount of natural resources they have, they do not need any other sector. Moreover, those gamblers who are used to gambling there are actually gambling of that particular site. It has no effect on stopping the war so other issues should be discussed logically.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 07, 2022, 02:23:07 AM

Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

That's the main problem of any form of sanctions, how many countries will be part of it and are there loopholes to soften the impact of sanctions. If you ask Western countries now they will tell you that the sanctions are working very well and the Russian economy is collapsing. But what about the rest of the world? It seems that Russia is making new trade deals with India, Iran, China and some smaller countries. More sanctions also means to divide the world even further. I am against boycotting casinos just because they are being operated out of Russia. I wish there were negotiations again between Ukraine and Russia to end this war.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 08, 2022, 08:58:21 AM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 07, 2022, 05:17:48 AM

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Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

Casino owners are not affiliated with anyone so don't care about the impact of war tensions, even though other countries boycott Russian casinos but casino owners are trying to plan new strategies to increase the interest of new users from other countries, maybe local gamblers still join for their country's casinos because of other countries casinos requires KYC but Russian country users are blacklisted under the terms and conditions of some casinos.

It's strange that even after so many months we are still discussing the same useless thing. The boycott of the russian gambling platforms will have no effect on the war tensions so instead of doing this and creating more tension, better to do things that may help stop this ongoing war.
There are humans who are suffering at both sides of the border and it would be better if some how these big powers care about humans. Sad

To me the only one suffering looks the Ukrainian country while Russia is there by fighting an unjustified war of invasion.The soldiers being killed from the Russians side are asking for it as they are going into war against another independent country and that is what you get when you go to war for no good reason.The fact that they,the Russians are not winning a war they planned to win in 3-4 days and has committed some of the worst atrocities the world has witnessed deserve to lose personnel everything single day.I am only sorry for Ukrainian lives lost while the Russians soldier can opt to not go to a stupid war like that yet they go and come back home with a coffin.The war does not seem to stop and even Ukrainian soldiers are saying that they think that most likely to recover lost territories they will need at least until the end of next year.

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Quote from: erep on August 08, 2022, 06:42:15 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 07, 2022, 05:17:48 AM

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Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

Casino owners are not affiliated with anyone so don't care about the impact of war tensions, even though other countries boycott Russian casinos but casino owners are trying to plan new strategies to increase the interest of new users from other countries, maybe local gamblers still join for their country's casinos because of other countries casinos requires KYC but Russian country users are blacklisted under the terms and conditions of some casinos.

It's strange that even after so many months we are still discussing the same useless thing. The boycott of the russian gambling platforms will have no effect on the war tensions so instead of doing this and creating more tension, better to do things that may help stop this ongoing war.
There are humans who are suffering at both sides of the border and it would be better if some how these big powers care about humans. Sad

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 07, 2022, 05:17:48 AM

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Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

Casino owners are not affiliated with anyone so don't care about the impact of war tensions, even though other countries boycott Russian casinos but casino owners are trying to plan new strategies to increase the interest of new users from other countries, maybe local gamblers still join for their country's casinos because of other countries casinos requires KYC but Russian country users are blacklisted under the terms and conditions of some casinos.

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Instead of proposing such a useless thing, you better donate to Ukraine. The ban of russian casinos will make no difference to ukranian people

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 05:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

HEllo OP - would you still support Ukraine?
After all the trouble coming to the world. Inform of inflation and crisis - I feel sorry for our country - we are not in anyone's war - yet my country paid a heavy price for not following the directions of EU and for staying neutral.

I don't think that is very appropriate, it is obvious that many have moral interests in Ukraine, if you watch the news there are many signs of Russia making attacks, those parts of Ukraine that are most vulnerable, which are with Churches, Shopping Centers, and Hospitals, attack them without mercy, that is a war that has no name, the fact that they want to have a boycott of Russian companies is no longer so important, innocent lives are more important, right?

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 07, 2022, 02:23:07 AM

Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.

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Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

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Quote from: bakasabo on June 29, 2022, 02:37:53 AM

Quote from: Hispo on June 28, 2022, 02:43:15 PM

The way I see if we people around the world started to boycott all kind of digital services (including Casinos) of Russian owners, that would definitely hurt some oligarchs with tight ties with the klemlin and even some politicians and their families as well.

However, we must also not forget that there is common people in Russie normal citizens that do not agree with the politics of Putin but they cannot express themselves due to the fear of retaliations from the state forces. If we could prove that behind a crypto casino there is someone with clear support towards Putin's war, then I'd say there is a good reason to move from that service, on the other hand if we can't get enough evidence of Putin's support, then we should be reluctant to move from the service, because there could be an honest peace loving Russian citizen in charge.

Just my opinion.

If you are not in a very close surrounding to Putin, it is impossible to tell which person support him, and which not. The idea of boycotting was to reduce the amount of taxes collected from casinos. In the same way, every Russian business, that pays income tax must be boycotted. In addition, not only Russian business must be boycotted, but countries they trade with must be boycotted also. In the end it will turn into boycotting each and everyone, because everyone in some way is in a link (maybe by being tenth consignee in business chain for example) with Russian business.

If we notice, but what you will see here is a good point, but what they reported here is that they gave billions of euros for the last few years, but here they show that the government has received billions for it.

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Quote from: danadc on August 03, 2022, 11:43:15 PM

Lately I have been seeing that the Russian attacks have been more incessant and that they have not respected any of the agreements, so if they do not comply, because Russia blames Ukraine and Ukraine blames Russia, what do they want to achieve? end the world? I think that the boycott would not do much, it would only end the business of the Russians, but would it fix this war? If the boycott worked to end the war, then let it be, otherwise I don't see any use for it, what do you think?

It is a decision that each person needs to take, when it comes to a business decision we may think that all what matters are the profits but most of the time that is not the case, if you like or feel more identified towards a company then you will prefer to spend your money there than doing so in another company despite having better prices.

This is similar, many people do not agree with the aggressive posture of the Russian government and we also do not have the means to stop the war, so what to do? You can do nothing but some people have elected to show support for Ukrainian products while boycotting those which come from Russia, it is a natural reaction and even if it does not fix anything people are free to take whichever choice they think it is best for them.

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Lately I have been seeing that the Russian attacks have been more incessant and that they have not respected any of the agreements, so if they do not comply, because Russia blames Ukraine and Ukraine blames Russia, what do they want to achieve? end the world? I think that the boycott would not do much, it would only end the business of the Russians, but would it fix this war? If the boycott worked to end the war, then let it be, otherwise I don't see any use for it, what do you think?

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Quote from: Theones on July 30, 2022, 10:05:41 AM

Quote from: danadc on July 27, 2022, 06:33:09 PM

A boycott for me means fewer jobs for people who are innocent, but it must be remembered that they are at war and as they say out there in war and in love all is fair, those who have a lot of responsibility are the rulers, because I see them very Calm down while the innocent are massacred and that is not convenient for anyone, the children they have killed are increasing, and they are killing the future, this already seems biblical and apocalyptic to me, and the theme of Boincot is too small to what is missing and does generate.

I wish EU has not made that decision. They should have thought about themselves and about the rest of the world - I am sure they are now repenting for not being able to understand what decision they should have made to save Ukraine and the rest of the world.

You mean the sanction shouldn't be applied? I think they know what they are doing better than us because we are not an economist or whatsoever but we are just an average joe. Maybe if they didn't do that, the situation can get more worse. Just think about it and as you can see some people feel that sanctions wasn't enough but they are also planning to boycott everything from Russia including gambling platforms.

@BitcoinAccepted it will only be useless if there are less or no people that will support it. I don't understand why will people on russia use a vpn to play with other country/gambling sites? Gambling sites on their country wont be force to shutdown or do a restriction for their own people/players but a boycott means that people from other countries are not going to support or play in a gambling site that is related to Russia.

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