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I don't support a total boycott but some strong measures be place to force the country from the invasion and making Russia to comply with international standard of peace accord.
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This whole idea of isolating Russia relies on the idea of comparative advantage and the modern system of trade being superior to internal economies.   Russia has such a massive land area and potential economy within just its own people its disputable they would ever feel forced to take a different direction.     Unfortunately the war is not going to be so easily stopped, its some discouragement but not enough to alter a dictatorship imo
despite of the fact there are so many sections - Ruble is strengthening and there is no affect on Russian economy. They are are one of the largest oil producing countries and world cannot cut trade from them. Sooner or later they have to go back and ask for oil. So better be safe than sorry. Support Ukraine and request Russia to have some mercy on them but the fact is that world cannot stop trade with Russia.

I'm not really sure what you mean that Rubble is strengthening, it has lost it's value, nearly half of it at the start of the war. But Russia has one aces in their sleeves and that is oil that's why Rubble has somewhat recovered.

Back to the subject though, not sure if this is going to be effect method to boycott Russian based platforms. Maybe it will have an impact, but I don't see it long lasting as gamblers will still prefer to play regardless of the platform that they are going to used.
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Russian players are more and more excluded worldwide. But especially as a country in certain sports, so not by definition individually. I expect the war to continue for a while, sanctions are getting tougher. Gambling companies have the great advantage that they can decide for themselves whether they allow Russian players or not, there is no umbrella body or organization that supervises and exercises controls. I don't think they want to do that either, it would cost millions for those companies. I think there are a lot of Russian gamblers active.
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This whole idea of isolating Russia relies on the idea of comparative advantage and the modern system of trade being superior to internal economies.   Russia has such a massive land area and potential economy within just its own people its disputable they would ever feel forced to take a different direction.     Unfortunately the war is not going to be so easily stopped, its some discouragement but not enough to alter a dictatorship imo
despite of the fact there are so many sections - Ruble is strengthening and there is no affect on Russian economy. They are are one of the largest oil producing countries and world cannot cut trade from them. Sooner or later they have to go back and ask for oil. So better be safe than sorry. Support Ukraine and request Russia to have some mercy on them but the fact is that world cannot stop trade with Russia.
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This whole idea of isolating Russia relies on the idea of comparative advantage and the modern system of trade being superior to internal economies.   Russia has such a massive land area and potential economy within just its own people its disputable they would ever feel forced to take a different direction.     Unfortunately the war is not going to be so easily stopped, its some discouragement but not enough to alter a dictatorship imo
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.
Still have different opinion with boycott Russia gambling platform because some people think gambling is not any relationship with war invasion to Ukraine. But some opinion claimed Russia gambling have pat tax helped war invasion. I tjink second opinion is wrong because all gambling Russia site never agree with war invasion. Maybe stop with boycott is better thing how Russia gambling site not get effect from war invasion and kee running like usually.
I would say that the Russian economy will only benefit from a boycott. Most of the Russian bookmakers are registered in offshore zone and their whole task was to cash out and laundering money. The owners of 1xBet are now located somewhere in Cyprus. So it is still unclear whose companies these are and who will benefit from this boycott.
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You're probably right about the impact of such an action on Russia's economy. That doesn't mean we should sit back and do nothing. The actions of the Russian military against Ukraine on whose soil the invasion is taking place are not only crimes against Ukraine, but crimes against the entire world. A sovereign nation was invaded and part of its territory was illegally annexed by Russia and Putin's actions are a threat to peace in the entire region. It is an injustice that shouldn't be tolerated by anyone.

If you want to hurt Russia economically, you have to boycott all their products if you want to put pressure on them everywhere. Russia has attacked Ukraine which is by no means acceptable. For normal people, it is acceptable for us to take a stand against Russia for this act of Russia. Therefore, it is important to impose sanctions on them and implement them properly.


Wont really be giving out any impacts at all which is definitely true because no matter how many sanctions would be implied or applied it cant really be denied in terms of oil supply
which surrounding countries would really be needing it so they wont really be having no choice,plus they do have big reserves which might Putin be that really confident
no matter how bad the situation is in speaking with sanctions or overall.Its been so long but still the war hasnt ended yet which do really shows something in relation
with its power and economic sustainability.

The most important thing is the proper implementation of the sanctions. But other countries are so dependent on Russian oil that they can't do much if they want to. So in order to put pressure on Russia, those countries should make alternative arrangements for Russian oil.
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Agree with that, we do have our personal opinion or our way to support Ukraine, but boycotting gambling sites that are operating in Russia is not the best solution. It's not everyone in Russia agrees with the action of the Russian government, so why would we generalize the sanction in our little way, let's just let the big boys play as Russia has been sanction by big countries already.
Today I read on internet that the Russian Ruble strengthened to 69.88 RUB/USD today, nearing its 52 week high, media coverage of the ruble's strength remains non-existent. Good news for Russia and Surly - Central Bank of Russia Giverner Elvira Nabiullina has the right stuff. So what is use of sanctions. Russia will bounce back. No matter what.
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Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
I second that - Russia is a super power and they have the history of war. Have they had so much trouble they would not have attacked any country at first place.
But I feel bad for the country which are affected be it Ukraine or Palestine or Afghanistan. May the war lord realize that they are killing families and affecting the lives of people for generations.

They don't have time to think of it. They were already consumed by their greed or whatever consumed them. Boycotting wouldn't have that much effect to the Russia and I think only the businessmen will suffer from this since they will still paying the same tax even though their economy is going downwards.

Agree with that, we do have our personal opinion or our way to support Ukraine, but boycotting gambling sites that are operating in Russia is not the best solution. It's not everyone in Russia agrees with the action of the Russian government, so why would we generalize the sanction in our little way, let's just let the big boys play as Russia has been sanction by big countries already.
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Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
I second that - Russia is a super power and they have the history of war. Have they had so much trouble they would not have attacked any country at first place.
But I feel bad for the country which are affected be it Ukraine or Palestine or Afghanistan. May the war lord realize that they are killing families and affecting the lives of people for generations.

They don't have time to think of it. They were already consumed by their greed or whatever consumed them. Boycotting wouldn't have that much effect to the Russia and I think only the businessmen will suffer from this since they will still paying the same tax even though their economy is going downwards.
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Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
I second that - Russia is a super power and they have the history of war. Have they had so much trouble they would not have attacked any country at first place.
But I feel bad for the country which are affected be it Ukraine or Palestine or Afghanistan. May the war lord realize that they are killing families and affecting the lives of people for generations.
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.

Most gamblers around the world do not know the origin of gambling sites. Even I never care to see that gambling sites belong to which country in which i play online gambling. Therefore, most people will keep on playing on Russian gambling platforms unknowingly.
Secondly, i don't think that boycott gambling sites can have any major effect on the Russian economy, though only the business of that particular site may suffer.
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.
Still have different opinion with boycott Russia gambling platform because some people think gambling is not any relationship with war invasion to Ukraine. But some opinion claimed Russia gambling have pat tax helped war invasion. I tjink second opinion is wrong because all gambling Russia site never agree with war invasion. Maybe stop with boycott is better thing how Russia gambling site not get effect from war invasion and kee running like usually.

Everything that represents acts of war I will always be against, the war brings divisions and hate, sometimes it must be understood that there are interests that are on the side of the governments, and that are related to their particular interests, for me I see the Russians and the Ukrainians as the same, there are no sense that they are fighting, for me what Putin is looking for is power, and that Ukraine is again part of Russia again, I think that is the reason for the conflict.

The fact of continuing to do war acts as a boycott of the sites that have struggled to provide a fun service like the casinos that are Russians or any other country that do not see it as something good, it is something negative, for me the sanctions must be Only for Putin and his politicians, no one should pay for their impure actions.

We are all the same, we should not kill ourselves, I have seen that both NATO and other governments are very interested in making war, but they don't say so, it has been speculating much about that there will be a world economic crash, if there are A war is the only way that such an economic catastrophe can avoid, I am not in favor of war, it will never be my north, I do not want an environment contaminated with nuclear weapons, or mutations or diseases produced by such attacks, we only have news that they provide us The means of communication and social networks are really happening what they tell us?

For these reasons and I think there must be many more, is it because we should not attack everything that is Russian, in the media of Russia they support all Putin's decisions, but they do not live in a totally communist government? Where to go against Putin implies that they put you in jail or possibly kill you.

I am totally sure, that the people of Russia are against all invasion against their Ukrainian brothers, if we attack Russia sites, system of Ukraine, is to look for hate, xenophobia and generate more chaos from where there should be no.
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.
Still have different opinion with boycott Russia gambling platform because some people think gambling is not any relationship with war invasion to Ukraine. But some opinion claimed Russia gambling have pat tax helped war invasion. I tjink second opinion is wrong because all gambling Russia site never agree with war invasion. Maybe stop with boycott is better thing how Russia gambling site not get effect from war invasion and kee running like usually.
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I choose to be neutral and not to interfere in Russia's affairs with its invasion of Ukraine. because I don't know the truth behind it. and I don't know which one is to blame. If you have to join the boycott of Russia then it doesn't make sense. unless you know exactly what is wrong and right with strong evidence. or you are on the battlefield.

because I think of a lot of Russians who don't actually support this war or invasion. only a few support it. So if it's boycotted then I think the impact will be on people who don't approve of this war as well. so being neutral is my choice. And we know that it is not only Russians who are participating in the Russian gambling platform

When the armies of one country enter the territory of another country, it is called an invasion. A military invasion on territory of another country without its agreement and attacking its army and all kinds of objects is called a war. What do you not understand?

Putin has the greatest negative impact on people, and we can reduce his money to continue this war by boycotting Russian casinos.

Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

Of course, Russia earns the most from the sale of oil and gas, which is why the European Union and other countries impose sanctions on Russia and slowly stop buying. (It is known that they cannot stop overnight.)
The question is why Putin started this war? Let Putin end it and there will be no conflict.
Boycotting casinos and reducing the Russian government's income from casinos is something we as an international community can do to peacefully protest against a senseless war.

the reason for Putin's invasion? This question made me choose neutral. because a country will not be able to carry out an invasion without a very, very strong reason. because there is also news that says that Russia is doing this because it is for the sake of Russia's own security that is threatened. So Russia chose to invade first. And the target of this invasion was told by Putin in his speech that the goal was the President of Ukraine. but the president of ukraine instead ordered his citizens to fight while he himself went into hiding. if the ukraine president really loves its citizens then he will definitely be willing to sacrifice for the safety of its citizens. But the news that arrived was that the president of ukraine was hiding when its citizens were fighting back and there were many victims and before the invasion, Putin had warned ukraine a lot about the problems of both sides. so that there is no war. but it's only through the news and I don't know the truth. I am not a person who will take action if there is no clear certainty.
And about Russian casinos, I don't think it's effective to boycott it because it's not only Russians who join. but many from different countries. so that those who will be harmed are not focused on Russia but become detrimental to all people from various countries that are in it.
I hope Putin stops this soon. because you are right. this is the decision in the hands of putin himself

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It is true that by boycotting Russian gambling websites, it is not possible to inflict major economic losses on them. Because Russia has a huge supply of oil from the oil sector, Europe is dependent on Russian oil, so they have to buy oil from Russia no matter how much they impose sanctions. But there are ordinary community members like us who are here and who want peace in the world Gamblers can boycott Russian websites if they want to take a stand against the Russian attack on Ukraine. So it would be entirely a personal decision of a gambler.
^ This is a good and neutral comment, it really depends on us as a gambler if we support to boycott and we cannot generalize this situation.
Even there is a sanction against to the Russian but online gambling industry should not be affected by this implementation, this is a business, and not only the Russian people are affected, but the owner of these casinos also are not owned by Putin so I think there is no need to support the boycott in my own.
However, let them decide on their own, and probably the majority win if everyone in favor to support the boycott, there should be a voting pole for this.
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Boycott all gambling platforms in Russia as a form of sanctions imposed for the invasion of Ukraine, the problem is that some gambling sites are domiciled in Russia, we don't know all of them and also those site owners are not responsible for the current war. Not all Russian citizens agree with the war that is happening now, they are only a small group who agree and drag all Russian citizens into war sanctions. Some Russian gambling platforms will be very influential because of this war, some even leave the site for fear that something will happen because of the war.
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Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

It is true that by boycotting Russian gambling websites, it is not possible to inflict major economic losses on them. Because Russia has a huge supply of oil from the oil sector, Europe is dependent on Russian oil, so they have to buy oil from Russia no matter how much they impose sanctions. But there are ordinary community members like us who are here and who want peace in the world Gamblers can boycott Russian websites if they want to take a stand against the Russian attack on Ukraine. So it would be entirely a personal decision of a gambler.
Wont really be giving out any impacts at all which is definitely true because no matter how many sanctions would be implied or applied it cant really be denied in terms of oil supply
which surrounding countries would really be needing it so they wont really be having no choice,plus they do have big reserves which might Putin be that really confident
no matter how bad the situation is in speaking with sanctions or overall.Its been so long but still the war hasnt ended yet which do really shows something in relation
with its power and economic sustainability.
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Could they afford or able to withstand to wait up for that long.Isnt that possible to have some impeachment?
With this kind of leader then they would really be fucking up their situation but its true that there would be still supporters.
In many countries that adhere to communist ideology, impeaching is impossible (although the united russian party says communism is no longer alive in russia)...

the power of communist ideology has been tested for its nationalist doctrine to the community, they don't even hesitate to use violence on demonstrators. Just look at the beginning of the invasion, there was a lot of news about citizens holding demonstrations against the invasion but now that's not there anymore. boycotting is no longer effective, putin is not affected by it.
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Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

It is true that by boycotting Russian gambling websites, it is not possible to inflict major economic losses on them. Because Russia has a huge supply of oil from the oil sector, Europe is dependent on Russian oil, so they have to buy oil from Russia no matter how much they impose sanctions. But there are ordinary community members like us who are here and who want peace in the world Gamblers can boycott Russian websites if they want to take a stand against the Russian attack on Ukraine. So it would be entirely a personal decision of a gambler.

You're probably right about the impact of such an action on Russia's economy. That doesn't mean we should sit back and do nothing. The actions of the Russian military against Ukraine on whose soil the invasion is taking place are not only crimes against Ukraine, but crimes against the entire world. A sovereign nation was invaded and part of its territory was illegally annexed by Russia and Putin's actions are a threat to peace in the entire region. It is an injustice that shouldn't be tolerated by anyone.

Regarding economic repercussions, Russia is really hurting at the moment. The ruble has lost nearly half of its value since the beginning of the year, inflation is running high, and Russian businesses and individuals are the ones who are most hurt by such sanctions.

As for the Europe, that has shown time and again its capability to stand up to a bullying Russia. Now it should continue to show this quality. There are certain principles in international relations that must be respected, such as sovereignty, territorial integrity, and the non-use of force. We cannot agree to Russia violating international law in this way. The only question that remains is whether Europe is prepared to stand up to this.
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