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Quote from: iv4n on April 29, 2022, 12:45:31 AM

Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

It is true that by boycotting Russian gambling websites, it is not possible to inflict major economic losses on them. Because Russia has a huge supply of oil from the oil sector, Europe is dependent on Russian oil, so they have to buy oil from Russia no matter how much they impose sanctions. But there are ordinary community members like us who are here and who want peace in the world Gamblers can boycott Russian websites if they want to take a stand against the Russian attack on Ukraine. So it would be entirely a personal decision of a gambler.

Boycotting with Russia gambling platform website I think not effective yet for Russia economic impact, have been several time before United State and several European countries give suspend from stop using Russia oil but still not working yet with Russia invasion yo Ukraine. I think bad reason if try to boycott Russia gambling website because they don't support with war.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 29, 2022, 12:45:31 AM

Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

It is true that by boycotting Russian gambling websites, it is not possible to inflict major economic losses on them. Because Russia has a huge supply of oil from the oil sector, Europe is dependent on Russian oil, so they have to buy oil from Russia no matter how much they impose sanctions. But there are ordinary community members like us who are here and who want peace in the world Gamblers can boycott Russian websites if they want to take a stand against the Russian attack on Ukraine. So it would be entirely a personal decision of a gambler.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 29, 2022, 12:45:31 AM

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Quote from: Ahli38 on April 28, 2022, 10:10:11 PM

I choose to be neutral and not to interfere in Russia's affairs with its invasion of Ukraine. because I don't know the truth behind it. and I don't know which one is to blame. If you have to join the boycott of Russia then it doesn't make sense. unless you know exactly what is wrong and right with strong evidence. or you are on the battlefield.

because I think of a lot of Russians who don't actually support this war or invasion. only a few support it. So if it's boycotted then I think the impact will be on people who don't approve of this war as well. so being neutral is my choice. And we know that it is not only Russians who are participating in the Russian gambling platform

When the armies of one country enter the territory of another country, it is called an invasion. A military invasion on territory of another country without its agreement and attacking its army and all kinds of objects is called a war. What do you not understand?

Putin has the greatest negative impact on people, and we can reduce his money to continue this war by boycotting Russian casinos.

Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

Of course, Russia earns the most from the sale of oil and gas, which is why the European Union and other countries impose sanctions on Russia and slowly stop buying. (It is known that they cannot stop overnight.)
The question is why Putin started this war? Let Putin end it and there will be no conflict.
Boycotting casinos and reducing the Russian government's income from casinos is something we as an international community can do to peacefully protest against a senseless war.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on April 28, 2022, 10:10:11 PM

I choose to be neutral and not to interfere in Russia's affairs with its invasion of Ukraine. because I don't know the truth behind it. and I don't know which one is to blame. If you have to join the boycott of Russia then it doesn't make sense. unless you know exactly what is wrong and right with strong evidence. or you are on the battlefield.

because I think of a lot of Russians who don't actually support this war or invasion. only a few support it. So if it's boycotted then I think the impact will be on people who don't approve of this war as well. so being neutral is my choice. And we know that it is not only Russians who are participating in the Russian gambling platform

When the armies of one country enter the territory of another country, it is called an invasion. A military invasion on territory of another country without its agreement and attacking its army and all kinds of objects is called a war. What do you not understand?

Putin has the greatest negative impact on people, and we can reduce his money to continue this war by boycotting Russian casinos.

Can we reduce his money?! I tried to find some information about how much Russia earns annually from the gambling industry, but I could not find anything concrete... but I found this one "Russia's oil and gas revenue last year added $119 billion to Kremlin"! I doubt that Russia earns close to that figure from gambling!

I think that these boycotts and bans are just war games and strategies... I'm against it all! Instead of working on reconciliation, all parties are working on deepening the conflict, inflammatory statements and actions are coming from all sides, and that is why, unfortunately, I think that all this will last! The question is what the world will look like when this is over, I doubt that it's possible to return to some "normal" ever again. Not to mention all other burning conflicts around the world, I guess when this ends some new wound will be opened soon after!

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Quote from: Ahli38 on April 28, 2022, 10:10:11 PM

I choose to be neutral and not to interfere in Russia's affairs with its invasion of Ukraine. because I don't know the truth behind it. and I don't know which one is to blame. If you have to join the boycott of Russia then it doesn't make sense. unless you know exactly what is wrong and right with strong evidence. or you are on the battlefield.

because I think of a lot of Russians who don't actually support this war or invasion. only a few support it. So if it's boycotted then I think the impact will be on people who don't approve of this war as well. so being neutral is my choice. And we know that it is not only Russians who are participating in the Russian gambling platform

When the armies of one country enter the territory of another country, it is called an invasion. A military invasion on territory of another country without its agreement and attacking its army and all kinds of objects is called a war. What do you not understand?

Putin has the greatest negative impact on people, and we can reduce his money to continue this war by boycotting Russian casinos.

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I choose to be neutral and not to interfere in Russia's affairs with its invasion of Ukraine. because I don't know the truth behind it. and I don't know which one is to blame. If you have to join the boycott of Russia then it doesn't make sense. unless you know exactly what is wrong and right with strong evidence. or you are on the battlefield.

because I think of a lot of Russians who don't actually support this war or invasion. only a few support it. So if it's boycotted then I think the impact will be on people who don't approve of this war as well. so being neutral is my choice. And we know that it is not only Russians who are participating in the Russian gambling platform

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Quote from: Oilacris on April 28, 2022, 06:36:23 PM

There's no one could stop this war but Putin himself would be making out decisions.

Believe me, if Russia continues to sink into problems caused by sanctions and boycotts, there will be someone who will finally thank Putin in an appropriate way for his insane policies. Let's not forget that Russia has a very long and rich tradition of removing heads of state literally.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on April 28, 2022, 04:15:32 PM

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Quote from: Bushdark on April 27, 2022, 07:05:43 AM

I love Russians even though the people has no power to resist the trauma Putin is causing right now. This will not make me have bad feelings to my friends who are from Russia and support the boycott of all Russian gambling platform. We all want peace in this world, so we should not try to escalate more scene that can effect our fight to stop Mr Putin from carrying out an aggressive attack on Ukrainian goverment again.

Putin had shown that he has what it takes to attack any nation that come against him and the best way to prove him wrong is not in this form. The move to boycott gambling platforms that are linked to Russian may looks like a good move but I don't think it will have effects on Putin's decision.

It was Putin decision alone and as we can see the Russians too are suffering from his decision imagine a lot of companies stop working in your country and other international services and the economy is collapsing, whos citizen would like that? Now not only the Ukranian people are suffering but also Russian too.

As far as I know, Putin was democratically elected by the people. If the Russians don't like what their leader is doing, let them change him and end this war. If they let him rule, it means they support what he does and take the consequences into account.

Do they really support him or they cant do anything because if they do tend to oppose then they do know on what would happen to them which is something not surprising.

As an ordinary citizen even though in a democratic country then you would really be putting yourself into soo much trouble if you do make out steps which would oppose on what the
government is currently doing.

There's no one could stop this war but Putin himself would be making out decisions.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on April 27, 2022, 07:39:16 AM

Quote from: Bushdark on April 27, 2022, 07:05:43 AM

I love Russians even though the people has no power to resist the trauma Putin is causing right now. This will not make me have bad feelings to my friends who are from Russia and support the boycott of all Russian gambling platform. We all want peace in this world, so we should not try to escalate more scene that can effect our fight to stop Mr Putin from carrying out an aggressive attack on Ukrainian goverment again.

Putin had shown that he has what it takes to attack any nation that come against him and the best way to prove him wrong is not in this form. The move to boycott gambling platforms that are linked to Russian may looks like a good move but I don't think it will have effects on Putin's decision.

It was Putin decision alone and as we can see the Russians too are suffering from his decision imagine a lot of companies stop working in your country and other international services and the economy is collapsing, whos citizen would like that? Now not only the Ukranian people are suffering but also Russian too.

As far as I know, Putin was democratically elected by the people. If the Russians don't like what their leader is doing, let them change him and end this war. If they let him rule, it means they support what he does and take the consequences into account.

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Quote from: Erdogan on April 25, 2022, 04:41:51 AM

It was a very big mistake of many European countries to become dependent on Russian gas and oil. They cannot resign from importing overnight, but the European Union has already introduced laws reducing imports from Russia. Russia will be losing customers and shortly will no longer have enough income to cover the cost of the war. We also, can limit tax revenues from Russian casinos by boycotting them. It may not be much, but if we can help shorten this war, why not do this?

It wasn't expected, that's the problem. They were already focusing on becoming energy self sufficient by 2030 to 2035 between each other, that was good enough for them and they didn't really consider there would be a war that would cause this to get quicker. In the end, the war happened in 2022 and now they are holding their money in their hands.

If they pay Russia, which they have to, then they would be basically financing Russia to attack Ukraine, if they pay Ukraine then they are paying it with the Russian oil they used to make that money, all in all it is not a good decision and they will end up with some problems and that's why I believe it is not going to be easy.

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The discussion now becomes more political and there might be sensitive issues that don't really need to be discussed here since generally, most people, even including me, are just relying on what they saw on the internet. Therefore, most exchange of responses here is just a product of their own though without knowing internally what's the real thing that's happening in the ongoing conflict.

Back to topic, can anyone confirm if these boycotts of all Russian-based gambling platforms, fiat or crypto-based, really happened?

Or still a subject of discussion like "what if" it will happen?

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Quote from: perla on April 27, 2022, 06:53:18 AM

Maybe we should change our strategy instead of not playing, we can just support directly to Ukraine by donating 5% or 10% of our winnings to help at least the immigrants and the kids that is affected by this war that is started by Putin.

This may be a good idea but there is no guarantee that you will win every time. If you don't win, how will you donate that money? It would be very useful if the money could be given to those helpless people, but it will not be possible in the way you have shown. Because if you lose then you are giving more revenue to that website and by doing this they are getting more economic power. So it is up to the players to decide whether they will boycott the website of a particular country or not.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on April 28, 2022, 03:20:46 PM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on April 27, 2022, 07:39:16 AM

It was Putin decision alone and as we can see the Russians too are suffering from his decision imagine a lot of companies stop working in your country and other international services and the economy is collapsing, whos citizen would like that? Now not only the Ukranian people are suffering but also Russian too.

I get that Russians could be suffering from his own mistakes, and I get that toppling a dictator may not be easy, but I really doubt that he is not getting any votes. This means that even if it is not enough to keep him as president and he illegally fixes the elections, there must be some people who vote for him, he can't just fix the elections if he was getting 2000 votes total, he must be getting plenty, and that's the issue.

If people are fine with it, if there are still supporters, if they are not just forcing him out, then there must be some people who support him. If you dislike him, that's fine, plenty of people disliked Trump and voted for Biden, get him out if you want Russia to be better.

Presidential election in Russia is still on 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Russian_presidential_election

Could they afford or able to withstand to wait up for that long.Isnt that possible to have some impeachment?
With this kind of leader then they would really be fucking up their situation but its true that there would be still supporters.

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War invasion between Russia and Ukraine keep running almost one month more, I think not effective with several time boycott Russia from giving economic punishment and susspend sport competition for Russia country. Just left one way only after not effective with many time suspended and boycott trough negotiation between Rusia and Ukraine how they can stop war and back to normal activities life.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on April 27, 2022, 07:39:16 AM

It was Putin decision alone and as we can see the Russians too are suffering from his decision imagine a lot of companies stop working in your country and other international services and the economy is collapsing, whos citizen would like that? Now not only the Ukranian people are suffering but also Russian too.

I get that Russians could be suffering from his own mistakes, and I get that toppling a dictator may not be easy, but I really doubt that he is not getting any votes. This means that even if it is not enough to keep him as president and he illegally fixes the elections, there must be some people who vote for him, he can't just fix the elections if he was getting 2000 votes total, he must be getting plenty, and that's the issue.

If people are fine with it, if there are still supporters, if they are not just forcing him out, then there must be some people who support him. If you dislike him, that's fine, plenty of people disliked Trump and voted for Biden, get him out if you want Russia to be better.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on April 27, 2022, 06:26:31 AM

Quote from: zidanw on April 27, 2022, 05:45:41 AM

It seems that the boycotting of the russian gambling site doesn't have much effect since there is still an ongoing war in Ukraine I think the most funds they are getting is from oil and not just in gambling and as you can see even if there's a lot of sanctions they are still operating. How long would this war last I hope this end soon.

Yes and the war continues and even worst now , also the effect in the world economy is taking part so I thing that there are other ways we need to conduct so this could damage the capacity of Russia to continues their attack against small country like Ukrain.
but of course with our support this can still put small point to their capacity .

I guess they are going for a ceasefire for a moment for having some peace talk with both country it gives a lot of damage to both properties and the economy itself and also there are a lot of people does not want to get affected with this war needs to leave their business and houses to make sure they are still safe. If this might continues all of the processes and activities that came from the Russia might against the people but still, we don't want them to suffer to from the people who really don't want. Also the expenses came from the source of the food might affect other countries too.

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Quote from: Bushdark on April 27, 2022, 07:05:43 AM

I love Russians even though the people has no power to resist the trauma Putin is causing right now. This will not make me have bad feelings to my friends who are from Russia and support the boycott of all Russian gambling platform. We all want peace in this world, so we should not try to escalate more scene that can effect our fight to stop Mr Putin from carrying out an aggressive attack on Ukrainian goverment again.

Putin had shown that he has what it takes to attack any nation that come against him and the best way to prove him wrong is not in this form. The move to boycott gambling platforms that are linked to Russian may looks like a good move but I don't think it will have effects on Putin's decision.

It was Putin decision alone and as we can see the Russians too are suffering from his decision imagine a lot of companies stop working in your country and other international services and the economy is collapsing, whos citizen would like that? Now not only the Ukranian people are suffering but also Russian too.

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I love Russians even though the people has no power to resist the trauma Putin is causing right now. This will not make me have bad feelings to my friends who are from Russia and support the boycott of all Russian gambling platform. We all want peace in this world, so we should not try to escalate more scene that can effect our fight to stop Mr Putin from carrying out an aggressive attack on Ukrainian goverment again.

Putin had shown that he has what it takes to attack any nation that come against him and the best way to prove him wrong is not in this form. The move to boycott gambling platforms that are linked to Russian may looks like a good move but I don't think it will have effects on Putin's decision.

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Maybe we should change our strategy instead of not playing, we can just support directly to Ukraine by donating 5% or 10% of our winnings to help at least the immigrants and the kids that is affected by this war that is started by Putin.

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Quote from: zidanw on April 27, 2022, 05:45:41 AM

It seems that the boycotting of the russian gambling site doesn't have much effect since there is still an ongoing war in Ukraine I think the most funds they are getting is from oil and not just in gambling and as you can see even if there's a lot of sanctions they are still operating. How long would this war last I hope this end soon.

Yes and the war continues and even worst now , also the effect in the world economy is taking part so I thing that there are other ways we need to conduct so this could damage the capacity of Russia to continues their attack against small country like Ukrain.
but of course with our support this can still put small point to their capacity .

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