Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms? - page 29.

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Quote from: btc78 on April 01, 2022, 02:02:13 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 01, 2022, 01:08:34 AM

@Marvelman. It appears that you created this thread as an attack on 1xbit only because the owners are Russian? The site is considered a scam in this forum because they might have been reports of selective scamming on their own users similar to what HitBTC has done. However, to boycott because they are Russian should not be supported. There are many peace loving Russians who do not support what Putin has done to Ukraine.

I don't think he only attacks 1xbit literally though He mentioned the name above but he is also asking of other Russian owned gambling site in which maybe he has no idea so he cannot put in OP.

And also he ahs no rights to attack specific gambling site as His Own gambling site in Signature is facing problem now as there is a accusation against them

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gamdom-crypto-casino-breaking-the-law-5391828

But we are supporting this act for the benefits of Ukraine and World peace .

That's right. As a matter of fact, I only mentioned 1xBit and 1xBET since those were the only two Russian owned casinos I was aware of at the time. This thread is not really about those two casinos, but about a broader initiative as a protest against the Russian aggression against Ukraine. This is not directed against the Russian people as a whole, but to raise awareness for what is going on there.

As for Gamdom casino, I am going to wear their signature until campaign manager or other DT members decide that the accusations against the casino are well-founded.

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Depends on the place isn't it? I mean I would mind letting a place I love go, I would love to keep gambling there and would probably ignore the fact that it is Russian. However, if it is not a place that I gambled at all, or considered giving up already then I wouldn't mind it too much. I have gambled in places that turned out to be scams before, so of course there is a limit when I do stop gambling at a place but like I said it is based on how much I like it.

Right now, none of the places that I like gambling is owned by any Russians, which means that I never had to consider this as a possibility and would not mind going on like how I have been for the time being.

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Quote from: Haunebu on April 01, 2022, 12:46:36 AM

Quote from: Cookdata on April 01, 2022, 12:38:50 AM

let both houses come to a peace talk conclusion, enough of hours of talk without meaningful discussions, people are dying, I hate politics deep down me. Cry

It's not that simple sadly. Both parties tried talking several times already since the war began and nothing changed because none of them are yielding due to which common citizens are suffering like crazy.

Annoying political crap as usual. One of them will yield inevitably and I hope it will be Russia since I don't want Putin to win overall.

We used to believe that whoever says "I'm sorry" is the one who is at fault, but this is not true, saying "I'm sorry" takes a lot of courage, but if you can say it, you are the coolest and most peaceful person alive, and you deserve a medal, however, our Ego is the reason why the peace talks have failed. This thread was completely pointless in the first place, I prefer not to take sides in wars and try to remain neutral, that is why the US has done nothing despite the continuous invasion, otherwise, a bloody civil war would have erupted.
Everyone on Bitcointalk likes each other, but politics has recently divided us more than anything else. Why should we stop patronizing a common man's business because some of his country's leaders have been psyched? Come on, man!

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Quote from: Cookdata on April 01, 2022, 12:38:50 AM

Oil is one of the major sources of Russia revenue, they depend on it to survive.

This is absolutely not true.
It seems you do not know Russia and Russians in general.
I inform you that Russia will live normally even in complete isolation from the rest of the world. Russia is able to provide for itself. And even the standard of living of ordinary citizens will not drop much. Not even comparable to North Korea.

So any gambling site boycotts are just bullshit.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 01, 2022, 01:08:34 AM

@Marvelman. It appears that you created this thread as an attack on 1xbit only because the owners are Russian? The site is considered a scam in this forum because they might have been reports of selective scamming on their own users similar to what HitBTC has done. However, to boycott because they are Russian should not be supported. There are many peace loving Russians who do not support what Putin has done to Ukraine.

I don't think he only attacks 1xbit literally though He mentioned the name above but he is also asking of other Russian owned gambling site in which maybe he has no idea so he cannot put in OP.

And also he ahs no rights to attack specific gambling site as His Own gambling site in Signature is facing problem now as there is a accusation against them

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gamdom-crypto-casino-breaking-the-law-5391828

But we are supporting this act for the benefits of Ukraine and World peace .

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@Marvelman. It appears that you created this thread as an attack on 1xbit only because the owners are Russian? The site is considered a scam in this forum because they might have been reports of selective scamming on their own users similar to what HitBTC has done. However, to boycott because they are Russian should not be supported. There are many peace loving Russians who do not support what Putin has done to Ukraine.

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Quote from: Cookdata on April 01, 2022, 12:38:50 AM

let both houses come to a peace talk conclusion, enough of hours of talk without meaningful discussions, people are dying, I hate politics deep down me. Cry

It's not that simple sadly. Both parties tried talking several times already since the war began and nothing changed because none of them are yielding due to which common citizens are suffering like crazy.

Annoying political crap as usual. One of them will yield inevitably and I hope it will be Russia since I don't want Putin to win overall.

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Quote from: arwin100 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

Oil is one of the major sources of Russia revenue, they depend on it to survive. According to Adamtooze^[1], they make roughly $350 million a day from their oil reservoirs, now tell me why their currency wouldn't plummet with those sanctions, they depend on the west to sell those oils and the sanctions wasn't just for the oil, it affected every innocent citizen that never thought of seeing the war coming.
whether they see inflation or not, let both houses come to a peace talk conclusion, enough of hours of talk without meaningful discussions, people are dying, I hate politics deep down me. Cry

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Quote from: Jasad on March 31, 2022, 02:01:27 PM

Quote from: arwin100 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

Still not effective with how many time sanctions given to Russia by Europe countries or anything else about boycott because Russia have gas needed by another country. I think could be stop with sanctions and boycott Russia right now better keep discussing about peace negotiation how this war invasion ended forever. Not any benefit when boycott Russian product until gambling platform because never have declare with gambling platform support with war invasion to Ukraine, what fault from gambling platform and have boycott by many gambler?

Don't worry it is not the effect today but the effect in long term , yeah Russia may succeed in their battle to take Ukraine but the consequences will be on theirs and the effect to their people in the long run.
Imagine almost the whole world is giving them sanctions in which their businesses and products will be in the verge of losing momentum.
and also i will participate in everything that may take part to make this initiative done.

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Quote from: arwin100 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

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Quote from: Cling18 on March 31, 2022, 09:39:44 AM

Theur citizens couldn't actually stop the war and ordinary people can't do anything about it and they just have to deal with the current situation for them to survive. If being jailed would be their punishment, I'm sure that silence would be their last resort. If I were from another country, I wouldn't boycott all Russian platforms because they're already suffering a lot of sanctions.

Yes you are right that mate ordinary people can not do anything to stop this war and even some country can not stop them. But all we need to do now is to pray that their mind became a peaceful mindset so that they will stop and back to normal cause some country are suffering right now because of the deleyed supplies from them .

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

Currently, there's a peace talk happening right now with the UK and Russia hoping that this will become soon and becomes back to normal because there are a lot of business and daily lives affected with this current war not all people want this to happen but because it's their president decision they cannot against with it and they must obey the rule. Regarding with the boycott i guess ideal implemented only to the people who supports with the war other people just only to make their life peace so not ideal to become part of it.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 31, 2022, 07:18:36 AM

All this cannot end quickly because the Ukrainian army is practically a national fascist army with the ideology of Nazism introduced. The fact is that in the battalions of this army there are groups of Nazis who control all the other soldiers. And they do not allow soldiers to surrender. So everything is very difficult and cruel.
There is no need to wait for the close completion of the denazification operation.

Although there seems to be no sign of knowing when the war will end, we can't just stop there. Surely there will be a phase where the soldiers will feel bored with fighting and want to return home. No matter how strong this group of soldiers is to control other soldiers, it will not be strong enough to hold back all soldiers who have the desire to end the war. If that happens, I'm afraid that later there will be a rebellion to return home from the soldiers in the battalion.

Quote from: btc78 on March 31, 2022, 07:30:57 AM

as if they have choices mate? we Knew how Russian Government stands and how they will punished those who will not agree in their action , this war is a country stands meaning that all people that will oppose will be put into jail and that is the what happens in their country .
so either Russian like it or not? they must support or keep silent for their own safety and benefits.

Maybe we don't know if they have a choice or not but hopefully, they have. They may be forced to support for their own safety and benefit. But if injustice were to happen in their country, there would be waves that would not be willing to accept it unless the people are all given facilities and given a decent living to all obey without being forced. If the Russian government can treat its people well, maybe the Russian people will continue to support their government. It is also about how the government treats its people.

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It is slowly starting to look like Putin has to put water in the wine. I have also read that the sanctions that have been taken do not immediately go away in that case. Those will remain intact for a while. Not really useful, because that will certainly not motivate Putin to stop the war now. But each sector is of course free to remove the sanctions whenever it wishes, I don't think there is any specific legislation for that.

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Quote from: Fortify on March 31, 2022, 04:13:01 PM

Quote from: Jasad on March 31, 2022, 02:01:27 PM

Quote from: arwin100 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

Still not effective with how many time sanctions given to Russia by Europe countries or anything else about boycott because Russia have gas needed by another country. I think could be stop with sanctions and boycott Russia right now better keep discussing about peace negotiation how this war invasion ended forever. Not any benefit when boycott Russian product until gambling platform because never have declare with gambling platform support with war invasion to Ukraine, what fault from gambling platform and have boycott by many gambler?

It seems like the list of companies shutting down Russian operations and connections is still growing every day. They've shown themselves as a rather unreliable and erratic partner, especially with the latest threats coming out today, so it seems like eventually Russia will lose it's last bit of leverage with energy exports soon. Anyway, it makes sense for people to stay well clear of any gambling operation that accepts Russian customers right now, because they might be in the firing line for evading sanctions. There's the dual threat of a general public backlash, that funds are seized by government regulators or even that payment processors connected with them cut off all business.

If it do becomes more worst and we've reached already into that certain extent then there would be having no choice but to avoid Russian related or owned sites where as an individual then
you would not really make yourself get involved nor put yourself into trouble.Therefore, it wont be that surprising that as day goes by and situation and sanctions becomes even more worst
then this thing would surely happen and that would be on gradual basis.It is really just sad that business owners would really be mainly affected with this one.

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Quote from: Jasad on March 31, 2022, 02:01:27 PM

Quote from: arwin100 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

Still not effective with how many time sanctions given to Russia by Europe countries or anything else about boycott because Russia have gas needed by another country. I think could be stop with sanctions and boycott Russia right now better keep discussing about peace negotiation how this war invasion ended forever. Not any benefit when boycott Russian product until gambling platform because never have declare with gambling platform support with war invasion to Ukraine, what fault from gambling platform and have boycott by many gambler?

It seems like the list of companies shutting down Russian operations and connections is still growing every day. They've shown themselves as a rather unreliable and erratic partner, especially with the latest threats coming out today, so it seems like eventually Russia will lose it's last bit of leverage with energy exports soon. Anyway, it makes sense for people to stay well clear of any gambling operation that accepts Russian customers right now, because they might be in the firing line for evading sanctions. There's the dual threat of a general public backlash, that funds are seized by government regulators or even that payment processors connected with them cut off all business.

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Quote from: arwin100 on March 31, 2022, 10:32:14 AM

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

Still not effective with how many time sanctions given to Russia by Europe countries or anything else about boycott because Russia have gas needed by another country. I think could be stop with sanctions and boycott Russia right now better keep discussing about peace negotiation how this war invasion ended forever. Not any benefit when boycott Russian product until gambling platform because never have declare with gambling platform support with war invasion to Ukraine, what fault from gambling platform and have boycott by many gambler?

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Quote from: Shamm on March 31, 2022, 10:13:33 AM

Quote from: Cling18 on March 31, 2022, 09:39:44 AM

Theur citizens couldn't actually stop the war and ordinary people can't do anything about it and they just have to deal with the current situation for them to survive. If being jailed would be their punishment, I'm sure that silence would be their last resort. If I were from another country, I wouldn't boycott all Russian platforms because they're already suffering a lot of sanctions.

Yes you are right that mate ordinary people can not do anything to stop this war and even some country can not stop them. But all we need to do now is to pray that their mind became a peaceful mindset so that they will stop and back to normal cause some country are suffering right now because of the deleyed supplies from them .

Many suffer from this war and this one needs to end. And to start the peace negotiation I think those sanctions will be taken out first since this is really the main problem on why the inflation rise up because there are limited countries who can buy oil in Russia, if they open back dealing oil of Russia for sure these we experience huge inflation will be lessen and we might get back to normal.

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Quote from: Cling18 on March 31, 2022, 09:39:44 AM

Theur citizens couldn't actually stop the war and ordinary people can't do anything about it and they just have to deal with the current situation for them to survive. If being jailed would be their punishment, I'm sure that silence would be their last resort. If I were from another country, I wouldn't boycott all Russian platforms because they're already suffering a lot of sanctions.

Yes you are right that mate ordinary people can not do anything to stop this war and even some country can not stop them. But all we need to do now is to pray that their mind became a peaceful mindset so that they will stop and back to normal cause some country are suffering right now because of the deleyed supplies from them .

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Quote from: btc78 on March 31, 2022, 07:30:57 AM

Quote from: michellee on March 31, 2022, 06:05:11 AM

Quote from: Woodie on March 30, 2022, 12:53:52 PM

As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.

We don't know what happened to the Russian people, whether they are against their government or this war or support this war but if the people feel their life is threatened, they will oppose but they can't do anything and are helpless. If we repay hatred with hatred, it will never end and only the people will continue to suffer. We don't know if the boycott is still ongoing or it's over but what is clear, it doesn't look like the war will end anytime soon. We can only provide support so that the war can quickly finish and the rest, we leave it to those who are trying to stop this war.

as if they have choices mate? we Knew how Russian Government stands and how they will punished those who will not agree in their action , this war is a country stands meaning that all people that will oppose will be put into jail and that is the what happens in their country .
so either Russian like it or not? they must support or keep silent for their own safety and benefits.

Theur citizens couldn't actually stop the war and ordinary people can't do anything about it and they just have to deal with the current situation for them to survive. If being jailed would be their punishment, I'm sure that silence would be their last resort. If I were from another country, I wouldn't boycott all Russian platforms because they're already suffering a lot of sanctions.

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Quote from: btc78 on March 31, 2022, 07:30:57 AM

Quote from: michellee on March 31, 2022, 06:05:11 AM

Quote from: Woodie on March 30, 2022, 12:53:52 PM

As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.

We don't know what happened to the Russian people, whether they are against their government or this war or support this war but if the people feel their life is threatened, they will oppose but they can't do anything and are helpless. If we repay hatred with hatred, it will never end and only the people will continue to suffer. We don't know if the boycott is still ongoing or it's over but what is clear, it doesn't look like the war will end anytime soon. We can only provide support so that the war can quickly finish and the rest, we leave it to those who are trying to stop this war.

as if they have choices mate? we Knew how Russian Government stands and how they will punished those who will not agree in their action , this war is a country stands meaning that all people that will oppose will be put into jail and that is the what happens in their country .
so either Russian like it or not? they must support or keep silent for their own safety and benefits.

All this is nonsense.
No one puts those who are against the military operation in jail. The maximum punishment, if a person was on strike peacefully and did not aggressively attack the police, then this administrative punishment is a fine.
All these "horror stories" are an invention of European and American journalists. You're just being swindled... To help American bankers earn their filthy dirty $$$$.
By creating false public opinion and demonizing Russia. And this is unfair and dishonest when a country rids the world of fascism.

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Quote from: michellee on March 31, 2022, 06:05:11 AM

Quote from: Woodie on March 30, 2022, 12:53:52 PM

As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.

We don't know what happened to the Russian people, whether they are against their government or this war or support this war but if the people feel their life is threatened, they will oppose but they can't do anything and are helpless. If we repay hatred with hatred, it will never end and only the people will continue to suffer. We don't know if the boycott is still ongoing or it's over but what is clear, it doesn't look like the war will end anytime soon. We can only provide support so that the war can quickly finish and the rest, we leave it to those who are trying to stop this war.

as if they have choices mate? we Knew how Russian Government stands and how they will punished those who will not agree in their action , this war is a country stands meaning that all people that will oppose will be put into jail and that is the what happens in their country .
so either Russian like it or not? they must support or keep silent for their own safety and benefits.

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