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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I hope you do the same to US or Israel, or it's for one side only?

Great but simple answer lol, we are just looking for the bad action taken by Russia against Ukraine but we are not digging to what is the reason why this war become massive .

and also Looking to what the war stands now? Russia is winning this battle and truth will be reveal in the near future.

But of course i am supporting this act for the peace .

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Putin did rally addressing Russians today who gathered in large numbers . It appears he still has the support of some people from the large number that gathered or they are just party faithfuls who are fulfilling the party obligation as members. But on a global scale, Putin seem to be alone except with the recent development with China and India wanting to establish trading deals with Putin.

If I had a common interest with Russia because Ukraine had wronged me in the past, I would not have come out in public to say so, and I believe that is what is happening on a worldwide spectrum to some people who have been misled by the Russia-Ukraine conflict, there are some countries apart from China who will take side with Russian that is why I don't believe the votes in the United Nations just an empty barrel.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, sanctions or no sanctions, Russia will do anything they want because they were well prepared before the conflict, you know you can't start what you can't finish. Anyways, let's end this war and make peace again Sad

This is why some of us are wondering if Russia is really in the wrong side, then why is the US not even going there to fight against Russian army?
Its time Zelenskyy open his mind to see he is not going to win this fight but will put Ukrainians to death instead.

Make peace because after all its not too late for the country, they could ask help also from other countries to fix whats being destroyed. Lets not drag everyone in this conflict that even the sports player are punished.

That's one political aspect of this war however sports have been dragged into it. FIFA and UEFA both suspended Russia and this will only increase hate against the country.
When you see announcement from the governing bodies, it allows other smaller institutions follow the game. Gambling sites can also restrict Russian players in order to please the international community. Again i said most decisions are political based , just following the US agenda.

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Do you think UN, NATO and other group don't resort to a peace talk before imposing those multiple sanctions to Russia? Ukraine President even have a several peace talk with Putin during the war yet Russian force never stop on there aggression. So tell me, If Russia have unlimited support from other country, why they are now doing desperate move just to sell there oil on there allied country if they will really have that backup.

The war wouldn't have happened if sitting down and talking was actually effective. Maybe after the sanctions are in place, and they start talking again, then maybe, just maybe, highly unlikely though.

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The boycott will not gonna directly impact normal Russian citizens because they don’t have directly benefiting on it. The government is the main target for this movement so that the tax from casino will gonna cut off for them. As long Russian government keeps generating funds from outside there country, They can fund this war as long as they want so this reasoning of yours seems very insensitive to the people of Ukraine too since they are experiencing right now the aggression of Russian government that you are defending.

This kind of movement is just temporary and not direct gonna hit Russian citizen. Roll Eyes

It absolutely will. What, are business owners now part of the government? No, they're not, they're also Russian citizens. Taxes? So you're telling us to cut off literally income sources of families in Russia so that the government could stop earning from them? Might as well have asked us to boycott the entirety of Russia, cut them off literally from the world.

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Quote from: Agbe on March 25, 2022, 06:30:42 PM

There are proactive ways to Stop any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.

Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.

The best ways to stop war are:

1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee

2. Call the two parties for a dialogue

3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.

With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.

Do you think UN, NATO and other group don't resort to a peace talk before imposing those multiple sanctions to Russia? Ukraine President even have a several peace talk with Putin during the war yet Russian force never stop on there aggression. So tell me, If Russia have unlimited support from other country, why they are now doing desperate move just to sell there oil on there allied country if they will really have that backup.

There reaction against economic sanctions only proves how it was effective. Russian oligarchs fund this war so cutting down the financial souce will gonna hurt there military spending. Putin already invested on this war and hewill not back down unless he will get his goal which is the resources of Ukraine. Peace will gonna waste all there efforts to plot down this war.

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Of course, sanctions and boycotts are unlikely to stop Putin's war in Ukraine and bring an end to the crisis. While there is only a marginal economic impact, it is still a huge signal to the Russian people that something is wrong. The collapse of the Russian ruble and Russian stock market show how nervous the middle class has become. If the crisis is not managed and the sanctions do not lift soon, Putin will be in real trouble and will lose the last big standing support he still has. There is no doubt that the sanctions and boycotts will be painful for the Russian people, but it is arguably the only way to send a clear message to Kremlin.

Still not effective after several side boycott did by United State and Europe Country and Putin as Russian president keep continue his invasion to Ukraine before Volodymyr Zelenskyy as Ukraine President declare give up with Russian invasion, have several economic side have boycott and I think recommended for gambling platform from Russia to boycott is not fair with invasion did by president not with gambling platform, not have way with financial invasion war coming from gambling platform and looks not logic reason with many asking from world people to boycott Russia gambling platform.

The reason for boycotting Russian casinos is that the more money someone loses there, the more money is going into the Russian budget in taxes from these casinos. If less money is flowing from the casinos to the Russian government, this war will last maybe a few minutes, maybe a few hours, or maybe a few days less, and maybe in this way we will save someone's life.

I don’t think a significant amount of money is going in the Russian economy from the taxes in casino platforms. And if there is a shortage of government money, I think they will get support from many others states for example China is still supporting this WAR. So that just boycotting Russian gambling sites this war will never stop i think.

Valid point. Only those people who own a gambling business will be affected and the other perpetrators and supporters of war won't really be affected because they have other means to support themselves in the first place. These casino owners would be on the losing end if the boycott would be done in general. The innocent ones would suffer as well.

In addition, boycotting will not totally eliminate the conflict and war among Ukraine and Russia. The only way to stop this is for Putin to halt his aggressive moves against Ukraine. Which I don't really think he'll do anytime soon.

One of sad reality happening as those innocent people are badly affected on this boycotting of their businesses, for sure we can see more discriminations in regards with this discussion because many people around the globe sympathize on what happen in Ukraine so I guess many will join the call just to slowly hit this to Russian government.

Boycotting will not really eliminate the conflict since this could add up the tension towards the affected country and might this will make them more aggressive and do more nasty actions.

With this kind of matter, I guess this kind of boycott better will implement only to the people who supported the war imagine right those people don't want to get been in the issue and their business and daily lives get affected because of the misunderstanding for both countries there's a lot of life will suffer. Ideal if only people want to have the war not the people who want a peace life.

On some cases yes because not all of the citizens agree for this war to happen some of them condemn on what Putin do to Ukraine so for this unfair treatment to them and generalize them all will create another chapter of war, also this will create another racism just because their government do some nasty actions. Crypto related industry should step out on this and don't join the call about boycotting since this will back fire to all online business owners who support if Russia will back on his shape.

We require this type of behavior because, as I have stated, it has the potential to lead to another altercation or even a civil war. We should be at the center as a result of what is taking place, but I believe that Russia is being unfair in doing so, and that we are also being negatively impacted as a result of the events taking place. Although the price continues to rise, and we are in a difficult financial situation, I believe it is best to remain where we are and not to ban Russian citizens because of the actions of their government because we are confident that they do not like of what has been done by their government to Ukraine.

In some points its looks like an against to each other might give another fuel of the war, lets the president and the whole organization handle this kind of situation preventing more urge to the each part to make another trouble and problem to the people who really don't want to commit war and just a peace because its really affect a lot of lives.

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No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.

You got the point.

These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected.

Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none.

Lets just accept the reality on which treatment or generalization would really be applied in all citizens of Russia which is true that everyone do seem to be the bad guy as of this moment on where globally we would

really be seeing this way which is actually sad and should'nt really be that generalized.It do just happens that their Leader did make out some shitty move which do make out effect on overall aspect
which is something that we couldnt do about it. Sanctions are everywhere now and plus having those boycotts and other related things which could not be stopped.

Yeah, I tend to agree that we shouldn't generalized even though the country's leader did some mistake but that doesn't mean we have to include the innocent people who are working hard too. Maybe the west would willing to do that since they were near at Europe but for Asian countries I don't know about that since the News circulating that they don't want to get in trouble but if they find an opportunity to make some business deal they would like to accept it especially in Russia.

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No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.

You got the point.

These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected.

Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none.

Lets just accept the reality on which treatment or generalization would really be applied in all citizens of Russia which is true that everyone do seem to be the bad guy as of this moment on where globally we would

really be seeing this way which is actually sad and should'nt really be that generalized.It do just happens that their Leader did make out some shitty move which do make out effect on overall aspect
which is something that we couldnt do about it. Sanctions are everywhere now and plus having those boycotts and other related things which could not be stopped.

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There are proactive ways to Stop any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.

Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.

The best ways to stop war are:

1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee

2. Call the two parties for a dialogue

3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.

With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on March 25, 2022, 12:38:04 PM

No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.

You got the point.

These organized boycotting would certainly lead to this. Even innocent companies and people who are working with those gambling companies and operators are going to be affected.

Well, if you boycott Russia, it's mean if you include to those innocent ones. But we all have different view on this invasion and everyone sees Russia as a whole to be the bad guy on this matter whether they have innocent people living there or none.

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Quote from: macson on March 25, 2022, 04:21:42 PM

one thing i noticed is that if Russia had a press conference on this then it would be held soon. Russia will benefit greatly if it accepts and requires buyers of their oil and gas to pay with bitcoin, oil is the most basic human need, without it all activities will stop and cause huge financial losses to countries that refuse.

Since Russia is currently under various sanctions, they will now want to look at the options that will benefit them. And Bitcoin will be able to give them a solution to all those problems. Since Bitcoin is already being accepted on gambling websites, they do not have to face many problems in this sector. Now if any player wants to boycott the russian gambling website then it is his/her personal matter and we must give priority to his/her personal opinion.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 25, 2022, 05:44:51 AM

I'm not sure how accurate the sources are, but reportedly, in a videotaped news conference, the chair of Russia's Duma committee on energy said that when it comes to "friendly" countries, Russia is willing to be more flexible with payment options.

Reportedly, chairman Pavel Zavalny said, "We have been proposing to China for a long time to switch to settlements in national currencies for rubles and yuan. With Turkey, it will be lira and rubles." And then he also added, "You can also trade bitcoins."

Here is the source of the article (in Russian): http://pressmia.ru/pressclub/20220324/953580633.html

one thing i noticed is that if Russia had a press conference on this then it would be held soon. Russia will benefit greatly if it accepts and requires buyers of their oil and gas to pay with bitcoin, oil is the most basic human need, without it all activities will stop and cause huge financial losses to countries that refuse.

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Quote from: Marvelman on February 27, 2022, 05:19:25 PM

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I hope you do the same to US or Israel, or it's for one side only?

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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

No, I do not support boycott Blindly. Cause it's also hampered on Russian innocent civilians who don't support this war and want peace. So I don't support the boycott and that doesn't mean that I support the killing of innocent civilians.

The boycott will not gonna directly impact normal Russian citizens because they don’t have directly benefiting on it. The government is the main target for this movement so that the tax from casino will gonna cut off for them. As long Russian government keeps generating funds from outside there country, They can fund this war as long as they want so this reasoning of yours seems very insensitive to the people of Ukraine too since they are experiencing right now the aggression of Russian government that you are defending.

This kind of movement is just temporary and not direct gonna hit Russian citizen. Roll Eyes

No matter what you say, it will have an impact on ordinary people so I can't support these boycotts in any way even though it is temporary, but what is the fault of innocent people? We have to look at both sides. The Russian civilians are also the civilian people of Ukraine. Russia also has a lot of sanctions.

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Quote from: delfastTions on March 25, 2022, 02:59:19 AM

Quote from: Jasad on March 24, 2022, 01:10:04 PM

Although with many boycott asking by Europe country, I like with Russia right now and they have alternative with bitcoin as legal currency payment beside still not agree with war invasion to Ukraine. Another important thing with war invasion, last one hour Russia have announce for legal and accepted bitcoin as payment currency where selling natural gas with bitcoin currency, now have many option for several country if wanna buy gas from Russia can use bitcoin for currency payment

source :
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/russia-open-to-sell-gas-for-bitcoin

Despite what this journalist writes, I think that Russia will not trade gas for bitcoin.

Firstly, Putin instructed everyone to accept payments for gas in rubles or real physical gold, and secondly, such amounts of contracts that are paid for gas supplies are simply too large to use BTC, given its enormous volatility.
So this is still the fantasy of journalists and this deputy, whom the author of the article referred to.

I'm not sure how accurate the sources are, but reportedly, in a videotaped news conference, the chair of Russia's Duma committee on energy said that when it comes to "friendly" countries, Russia is willing to be more flexible with payment options.

Reportedly, chairman Pavel Zavalny said, "We have been proposing to China for a long time to switch to settlements in national currencies for rubles and yuan. With Turkey, it will be lira and rubles." And then he also added, "You can also trade bitcoins."

Here is the source of the article (in Russian): http://pressmia.ru/pressclub/20220324/953580633.html

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Quote from: Jasad on March 24, 2022, 01:10:04 PM

Although with many boycott asking by Europe country, I like with Russia right now and they have alternative with bitcoin as legal currency payment beside still not agree with war invasion to Ukraine. Another important thing with war invasion, last one hour Russia have announce for legal and accepted bitcoin as payment currency where selling natural gas with bitcoin currency, now have many option for several country if wanna buy gas from Russia can use bitcoin for currency payment

source :
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/russia-open-to-sell-gas-for-bitcoin

Despite what this journalist writes, I think that Russia will not trade gas for bitcoin.

Firstly, Putin instructed everyone to accept payments for gas in rubles or real physical gold, and secondly, such amounts of contracts that are paid for gas supplies are simply too large to use BTC, given its enormous volatility.
So this is still the fantasy of journalists and this deputy, whom the author of the article referred to.

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Although with many boycott asking by Europe country, I like with Russia right now and they have alternative with bitcoin as legal currency payment beside still not agree with war invasion to Ukraine. Another important thing with war invasion, last one hour Russia have announce for legal and accepted bitcoin as payment currency where selling natural gas with bitcoin currency, now have many option for several country if wanna buy gas from Russia can use bitcoin for currency payment

source :
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/markets/russia-open-to-sell-gas-for-bitcoin

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