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Quote from: Erdogan on April 04, 2022, 06:37:11 PM

Are you from another planet? You are the one who says 1xbit and 1xbet are Russian casinos! This is your thread! Have you detached yourself from reality?

Keep your cool, you'll have a heart attack!
There is no need to discuss two separate platforms, we all know it's the same casino. I don't care if you're so dumb or incompetent that you can't check the evidence already presented on this forum in a number of topics. Do your own research!

Quote from: Erdogan on April 04, 2022, 06:37:11 PM

You have created a thread where you manipulate the information that 1xbit and 1xbet are Russian casinos and urge people to boycott them, and you have no basis for that.

What information did I manipulate exactly? Show me an example.

Quote from: Erdogan on April 04, 2022, 06:37:11 PM

In my eyes, you are a liar and a manipulator!

That's rich coming from you, isn't it? Nobody gives a crap about what you think!

Quote from: Erdogan on April 04, 2022, 06:37:11 PM

In my opinion DT members should react for such lies!

And then, guess what? They've already reacted. Check your trust. Cheesy

Even though I am sure you will avoid answering again, I will ask again: Can you share with us the evidence indicating that 1xbit is registered in Cyprus?

Quote from: Erdogan on April 02, 2022, 04:07:01 PM

Show one proof that 1xbit is registered in Russia. Because all those available indicate that it is registered in Cyprus.

This thread is manipulation because information that 1xbit or 1xbet are Russian casinos is entirely made up by you. You have no proof that these casinos are registered in Russia. If you have any evidence, present it, if not, close this thread and stop manipulating the information.

The only official information about 1xbet I found is the one in Wikipedia:

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1X Corp N.V. (also known as "1xBet") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 02:43:14 AM

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 12:48:13 AM

When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

Well, this is indeed quite difficult to do because this is going back to one thing, namely boycotting is not something that is easy enough to do. telling someone else would be quite difficult to do.
maybe I think this goes back to myself when you really don't like it then you can only start from yourself but inviting other people might be a little difficult, even though you can but it definitely takes time

This is all correct.
It is quite difficult to persuade users who are used to a particular site. It will be inconvenient for them to switch to others and many do not understand why they personally need to do this.
And there are also people who will deliberately start using such Russian gambling sites - just out of harm.
No, this is an empty boycott initiative.
It doesn't work effectively.

I agree. There are many members here in forum that have a go-to gambling websites which they are already used to. Transitioning to a new one when the current website they are playing on is still of great service and satisfies them sounds futile to me. In addition, these gambling websites that are Russian owned doesn't necessarily automatically supports the war that's been going on between Russia and Ukraine. There are business owners that are also against it, yet can do so little about it because after all, they are just a small entity.

I don't really see this boycotting movement beneficial to the current conflict that has been happening. Perhaps boycotting those website that upright support the invasion of their country to Ukraine is more appealing and justifiable. There are many innocent lives at stake now, adding more people into it will just be so cruel.

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 02:43:14 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 06, 2022, 01:49:42 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 12:48:13 AM

When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

Well, this is indeed quite difficult to do because this is going back to one thing, namely boycotting is not something that is easy enough to do. telling someone else would be quite difficult to do.
maybe I think this goes back to myself when you really don't like it then you can only start from yourself but inviting other people might be a little difficult, even though you can but it definitely takes time

This is all correct.
It is quite difficult to persuade users who are used to a particular site. It will be inconvenient for them to switch to others and many do not understand why they personally need to do this.
And there are also people who will deliberately start using such Russian gambling sites - just out of harm.
No, this is an empty boycott initiative.
It doesn't work effectively.

I failed to understand – why Russia was targeted to stop the war while there were so many other powerless countries been destroyed by USA – no sanctions and allegation were made against them. And now the whole world has been criticizing them. There is a need for the justice and there is a serious need.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on April 07, 2022, 11:39:13 AM

I don't support war and I just hope it can be resolved peacefully soon. But if you ask me to boycott everything that comes from Russia ^{[including gambling sites]} then you really have to give me a reason why I should do it.

Are you also going to ask me to block everything from Israel because they invaded/ occupied Palestine for years?

Me too I am not a supporter of war. But than again war brings in so much consequences, and there are super powers which try to pull down the involved country = but we have witnessed that stronger get strongest and weaker are perished from the land. This is the survival of fittest.

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 12:48:13 AM

When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

This is a valid point but on the other sometime - the banned list also get some fame and recognition - more of the time people start searching and using those banned site through proxy. I remember there was a time when fb was banned in county people have found the other way to use it. Likewise if there is ban = people will find other ways.

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Quote from: jossiel on April 06, 2022, 06:53:40 PM

Quote from: |MINER| on April 06, 2022, 10:40:23 AM

Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

It's just an idea and I don't know if the others have already done it. The thing about boy cotting is that there really are casinos from Russia that are likely a scam and those are the casinos that deserve it.

But for those innocent ones, you do what you think is right. If you've been playing with them for a long time and you see this idea pop out of nowhere then it's still you that's going to decide whether you'll follow the crowd or not.

Exactly. Although sanctions and boycotts are unlikely to stop Putin's war in Ukraine, they do send a strong message to the Russian people that something is seriously wrong. This will undoubtedly cause more defections from the regime, less faith in their government, more awareness of the threats to their economy and living standards and more sympathy for the anti-war protesters. Perhaps even more significantly, more Russians will understand that their government's policies do not represent their interests.

We don't know whether or not Putin will listen to such warnings. But, given the intensity of Russian nationalism, and how little they are held to account for their policies abroad, Putin will be fearful of losing his people's support. And this might persuade him to stop his aggression.

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I don't support war and I just hope it can be resolved peacefully soon. But if you ask me to boycott everything that comes from Russia ^{[including gambling sites]} then you really have to give me a reason why I should do it.

Are you also going to ask me to block everything from Israel because they invaded/ occupied Palestine for years?

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 02:43:14 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 06, 2022, 01:49:42 AM

Well, this is indeed quite difficult to do because this is going back to one thing, namely boycotting is not something that is easy enough to do. telling someone else would be quite difficult to do.
maybe I think this goes back to myself when you really don't like it then you can only start from yourself but inviting other people might be a little difficult, even though you can but it definitely takes time

This is all correct.
It is quite difficult to persuade users who are used to a particular site. It will be inconvenient for them to switch to others and many do not understand why they personally need to do this.
And there are also people who will deliberately start using such Russian gambling sites - just out of harm.
No, this is an empty boycott initiative.
It doesn't work effectively.

Because of this, we criticize that we can, but on the other hand, when one of us is comfortable with one of the gambling sites, it will be a little difficult to move to another site because even though there are many gambling sites that are quite good in terms of gambling, I also prefer comfort and being on a site I've trusted from time to time.
to get a new experience by changing sites it may be possible but the old ones of course will be difficult to replace and this may also happen when the site is russian (if that person is comfortable)

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Quote from: Gozie51 on April 06, 2022, 11:26:34 AM

Quote from: |MINER| on April 06, 2022, 10:40:23 AM

Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

Many Russian people did not support the invasion by Putin and when they protest, they get locked up in prison which is unfair to them but the point remains that they are Russians and punishment is going to Russia based on the general decision of the countries against the decision of Russian government to invade Ukraine, so they are suffering as Russian citizens.

Although war invasion is bad thing did by Russia we can't expectation our ideas and take one side only before getting fact about why war invasion happening. I think we need to check first why war between Russia and Ukraine. What happen both countries and get conflict more than one month and still can't stopping right now. I think with ideas and recommended for boycott Russia gambling platform is not true because still have many Russia citizen not agree with war invasion. They have try to give solution and ask to government stop war invasion to Ukraine and lest begin with peace discussing both side.

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Quote from: |MINER| on April 06, 2022, 10:40:23 AM

Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

It's just an idea and I don't know if the others have already done it. The thing about boy cotting is that there really are casinos from Russia that are likely a scam and those are the casinos that deserve it.

But for those innocent ones, you do what you think is right. If you've been playing with them for a long time and you see this idea pop out of nowhere then it's still you that's going to decide whether you'll follow the crowd or not.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on April 06, 2022, 11:26:34 AM

Quote from: |MINER| on April 06, 2022, 10:40:23 AM

Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

Many Russian people did not support the invasion by Putin and when they protest, they get locked up in prison which is unfair to them but the point remains that they are Russians and punishment is going to Russia based on the general decision of the countries against the decision of Russian government to invade Ukraine, so they are suffering as Russian citizens.

I'm not really sure how your response is related to what |MINER| said other than the Russian and Ukraine conflict.

Anyway, Yes, Russian citizens are people too and they too are suffering just as Gozie51 said. Disobedience from the government will cause them trouble and I'm not really sure how this boycott will help the issue. I mean how can boycotting business from the Russia will help the issue if the conflict is between the government.

As of now, let's be somehow happy, as the conflict subsided. I still am sad on how many people got affected especially for the Ukrainian Citizen who have lost their lives, love ones, shelter and businesses.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on April 06, 2022, 12:58:29 AM

It is not an ideal to make suffer the small business just the people who support the boycott must need in this kind of punishment but still it depends on the people if they still support even though it's in the boycott. Still the Russia focused on their goal, and if the war might continue, there was a possibility, that it might dow their economy. Of course, their president won't allow this to happen, so they made an immediate peace talk with the current situation.

But small businesses will surely suffer if the boycott continues and inevitably, their owners need help from their government.
And hopefully, peace talks can be carried out soon and can run smoothly so that their economic condition can recover and the people will not suffer anymore.

Quote from: |MINER| on April 06, 2022, 10:40:23 AM

Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

They are also human but they have to bear this consequence because their government did it.
The people will not be able to do anything because their government has already monitored it. Whatever it is, they will share the consequences of what their government has done.
The people hope that the situation will end soon and the wars can be stopped so that they can start improving their lives.

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Quote from: |MINER| on April 06, 2022, 10:40:23 AM

Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

Many Russian people did not support the invasion by Putin and when they protest, they get locked up in prison which is unfair to them but the point remains that they are Russians and punishment is going to Russia based on the general decision of the countries against the decision of Russian government to invade Ukraine, so they are suffering as Russian citizens.

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Don't you consider Russian citizens to be human beings? They are also human beings, so why would they face this boycott, why would they suffer the consequences of political activities ?
I know this boycott will also speak out against Russian civilians, just as the Ukrainian civilians were persecuted. So I don't support the boycott ...

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 02:43:14 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 06, 2022, 01:49:42 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 12:48:13 AM

When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

Well, this is indeed quite difficult to do because this is going back to one thing, namely boycotting is not something that is easy enough to do. telling someone else would be quite difficult to do.
maybe I think this goes back to myself when you really don't like it then you can only start from yourself but inviting other people might be a little difficult, even though you can but it definitely takes time

This is all correct.
It is quite difficult to persuade users who are used to a particular site. It will be inconvenient for them to switch to others and many do not understand why they personally need to do this.
And there are also people who will deliberately start using such Russian gambling sites - just out of harm.
No, this is an empty boycott initiative.
It doesn't work effectively.

I think it would work and be effective if people used to just read for example CNN daily live updates of the butchering of Russia against innocent civilians at Bucha a small town near Kiev which is well documented.Now they,the Russians soldiers are butchering Mariupol from quite some time but now raping of innocent girls,women and killing of elderly is a common thing from the Russian army.I personally would not support a single thing coming from Russia because I am seeing what they are doing,all the world is seeing that and overall most Russian gambling sites are already scam.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on April 06, 2022, 01:49:42 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 12:48:13 AM

When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

Well, this is indeed quite difficult to do because this is going back to one thing, namely boycotting is not something that is easy enough to do. telling someone else would be quite difficult to do.
maybe I think this goes back to myself when you really don't like it then you can only start from yourself but inviting other people might be a little difficult, even though you can but it definitely takes time

This is all correct.
It is quite difficult to persuade users who are used to a particular site. It will be inconvenient for them to switch to others and many do not understand why they personally need to do this.
And there are also people who will deliberately start using such Russian gambling sites - just out of harm.
No, this is an empty boycott initiative.
It doesn't work effectively.

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Quote from: delfastTions on April 06, 2022, 12:48:13 AM

When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

Well, this is indeed quite difficult to do because this is going back to one thing, namely boycotting is not something that is easy enough to do. telling someone else would be quite difficult to do.
maybe I think this goes back to myself when you really don't like it then you can only start from yourself but inviting other people might be a little difficult, even though you can but it definitely takes time

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Yes, the Russian government will not be affected but small businesses or industries will be affected and if these sanctions continue, many more domestic industries will likely suffer.
The people also continue to suffer because, with this collective boycott or even the sanction, the supply of basic needs can be reduced and cause chaos in the country.
But if the Russian government can help by providing supplies to its people, maybe the people will not suffer because they can still survive.
We don't know how long this sanction will last and we don't know when the war will stop.

Have several countries boycott with Russia and give punishment on economic side but keep looks strong for Russia country right now, actually have warning given by Russia for European country gas payment using Rubel and not adopt with USD again. I think have politician in war invasion and boycott to Russia, some countries worry when Russia change payment currency for their gas product will make USD have drop value and actually United State as first front line country against with Russia and give many punishment until ask to other countries for boycott Russia.

There are certainly politicians in the war invasion and boycott of Russia, which could be at play in the current situation.
But it seems that Russia is still able to survive boycotts or sanctions imposed by other countries and even countries around Russia are still providing support to Russia.
Perhaps this is what helped Russia in surviving the many sanctions.
In addition, the warning from Russia to change the payment currency to the Ruble is likely to help Russia survive.
It shows Russia doesn't care about boycotts and sanctions from other countries.

It is not an ideal to make suffer the small business just the people who support the boycott must need in this kind of punishment but still it depends on the people if they still support even though it's in the boycott. Still the Russia focused on their goal, and if the war might continue, there was a possibility, that it might dow their economy. Of course, their president won't allow this to happen, so they made an immediate peace talk with the current situation.

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When you plan to organize a boycott of some sites in a particular country, then, firstly, the inhabitants of this country will use such sites more and thereby compensate for its attendance. Secondly, there are users on the territory of the opposition countries who, out of curiosity, will use these sites.
As a result, there will be no real boycott.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on April 05, 2022, 08:38:18 PM

Quote from: traderethereum on April 05, 2022, 08:15:03 AM

Yes, the Russian government will not be affected but small businesses or industries will be affected and if these sanctions continue, many more domestic industries will likely suffer.
The people also continue to suffer because, with this collective boycott or even the sanction, the supply of basic needs can be reduced and cause chaos in the country.
But if the Russian government can help by providing supplies to its people, maybe the people will not suffer because they can still survive.
We don't know how long this sanction will last and we don't know when the war will stop.

Have several countries boycott with Russia and give punishment on economic side but keep looks strong for Russia country right now, actually have warning given by Russia for European country gas payment using Rubel and not adopt with USD again. I think have politician in war invasion and boycott to Russia, some countries worry when Russia change payment currency for their gas product will make USD have drop value and actually United State as first front line country against with Russia and give many punishment until ask to other countries for boycott Russia.

There are certainly politicians in the war invasion and boycott of Russia, which could be at play in the current situation.
But it seems that Russia is still able to survive boycotts or sanctions imposed by other countries and even countries around Russia are still providing support to Russia.
Perhaps this is what helped Russia in surviving the many sanctions.
In addition, the warning from Russia to change the payment currency to the Ruble is likely to help Russia survive.
It shows Russia doesn't care about boycotts and sanctions from other countries.

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