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legendary
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As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.
We don't know what happened to the Russian people, whether they are against their government or this war or support this war but if the people feel their life is threatened, they will oppose but they can't do anything and are helpless. If we repay hatred with hatred, it will never end and only the people will continue to suffer. We don't know if the boycott is still ongoing or it's over but what is clear, it doesn't look like the war will end anytime soon. We can only provide support so that the war can quickly finish and the rest, we leave it to those who are trying to stop this war.
All this cannot end quickly because the Ukrainian army is practically a national fascist army with the ideology of Nazism introduced.  The fact is that in the battalions of this army there are groups of Nazis who control all the other soldiers.  And they do not allow soldiers to surrender.  So everything is very difficult and cruel. 
There is no need to wait for the close completion of the denazification operation.
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As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.
We don't know what happened to the Russian people, whether they are against their government or this war or support this war but if the people feel their life is threatened, they will oppose but they can't do anything and are helpless. If we repay hatred with hatred, it will never end and only the people will continue to suffer. We don't know if the boycott is still ongoing or it's over but what is clear, it doesn't look like the war will end anytime soon. We can only provide support so that the war can quickly finish and the rest, we leave it to those who are trying to stop this war.
legendary
Activity: 2702
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As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.

 
You are definitely mistaken when you think that the majority of Russian citizens are against this military operation.  Just the opposite. 
Almost all Russians unanimously believe that their troops are liberating Donbass and all of Ukraine from nationalists and fascism.  And this is true and corresponds to reality.  As in 1945, the Russians are saving Europe from fascism.  Only the Americans and the European media are silent about this, and this is a deliberate misinformation of the population of Europe.  Since usa will make good money on the sale of weapons and on the problems of all European countries. 
By the way, the Chinese understand this very well.
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As much as this could be a good way to show displeasure of the current happenings between Russia and Ukraine...with Russiabeing at fault, I want to believe the majority of the Russians are not in support of this war and in some cases not aware of this taking place...the boycott would be unfair in some way as these companies are not the cause, besides these are businesses operating without boarders.

By the way we can't repay hate with hate ,just like they say two wrongs won't make a right....let's keep it at that.

 
legendary
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Besides, not really everyone gambles and not every gambling business owner is in favor of the war. Addressing it by making more sanctions will just make the average people and those people below the poverty line suffer even more. While others are rejoicing in the comforts of their homes.
This is your opinion close to me.
 I agree with you that millions of people live in the world not from countries where everyone lives richly and well.  And from countries where people have problems with housing and normal nutrition.  In such countries, people can play and even win a little on gambling sites.  So why should they call for some kind of boycott that they do not understand, especially if their country does not condemn Russia for this military operation, but understands that it was really provoked by the nasty policy of the USA, which we see, starting with Korea, Vietnam and Yugoslavia with Libya  ... almost constantly. Angry
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Why not boycott mass media or press instead then? There are little independent news channels or reporters, majority belongs to someone and show truth profitable for only one part of party. Same as crypto influencers, that just get paid to say what is scripted.

Ukraine wont surrender, Russia wont stop until they reach their "unclear goal of this war" (otherwise other countries will jump on Russia like hyenas on dying lion and tear it apart). Make more sanctions against - everyone suffer from sanctions now. Russia suffers now, other countries will suffer later. Boycotting Russian gambling platforms ? I dont believe it will help, as foreigners dont gamble there much.

This makes sense. It's a breath of fresh air to read such opinion like this. When i think of it, this could possibly make a change because most media is controlled and manipulated by a larger entity that only shows what is favorable to them to to the personality that they are in agreement with. As a matter of fact, those people behind the camera and pens are much more powerful whenever there's a war because they can either make or break what people think about the situation. If they would want to, they can easily twist the truth on their hands.

Besides, not really everyone gambles and not every gambling business owner is in favor of the war. Addressing it by making more sanctions will just make the average people and those people below the poverty line suffer even more. While others are rejoicing in the comforts of their homes.
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Maybe some Ukranian people might also be benefitting out of the businesses owned by the Russians. So, boycotting isn't a good decision.

I don't know how effective this works, but in the past there were more ways to pressurise governments to stop war. Nowadays this isn't possible as countries mutually benefit. Something like signing petitions can be done and this is also just a try and no big changes gonna happen out of it.

I agree there needs to be other methods than just sanctions. The sanctions against Russia are already very hard and hurting a lot of people. I would say that the exclusion from the SWIFT system was the most severe sanctions for the average citizen. The Russian crypto casinos are just a small part of the gambling industry. Do we really need to sanction all parts of the economy?
Right now it seems that there could be a ceasefire achieved between Russia and Ukraine. A status of neutrality together with international guarantees could do the trick. Russia is already pulling troops out around Kiev and want to reduce the bombarding. I hope this war will end soon so that the sanctions can be lifted and Ukraine can start rebuilding its country.
legendary
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For now I'm supporting the boycott cause so that they might think about stopping this and have a firm negotiation on both parties.

Do you personally gamble on Russian platforms? Some of them dont even have English version of their page. I dont think that most of forum members, who post in this topic, even know several Russian gambling platform links at all, not even speaking about using them. The situation with boycotting Russian gambling platforms is stupid. It will be the same as me boycotting Wendy's or Pizza Hut, because I want to stop animal killing, when in reality I dont have such places in my country at all.

Ukraine want to join on NATO and Putin sees that as a huge risk for their country if Ukraine will totally join on that organization.

That is one of the reasons. I might be wrong but didnt NATO promised not to create missile bases or military bases close to Russian boarder. But what we have now is that every NATO country have missiles and bases.

How current situation is given by Russian mass media:

Ukraine wanted to join NATO in 2014. In 2014, Ukrainian government was overthrown by people. Reason for that - Ukrainian government decided to reject joining NATO, completely stop that program (because a lot of people would be fired and production stopped, as it does not match Euro standards - really bad for Ukrainian economy).

Ukrainian citizens does not like that (they were promised European level salaries and jobs), overthrow old government and selected new government. Some regions or town in Ukraine though, why not create our own republic, if the power can be overthrown so easily.

DNR and LNR (Donetsk and Lugans people republics) appear. Since it was crowded mostly with Russian Ukrainians (some of them have two citizenships, two passports), they start referendum for joining Russian territory and become Russian republics (like Dagestan for example).

Ukrainian government does not accept this two republics as separate, but Russia count them as "our citizens". People of these two self claimed republics were under attack of nationalists. Russia decides to protect their citizens. This all mess lead to war. Each side has their own truth.

Imo, Russia is bad for this brutal act of aggression, Ukraine is bad for leading country to such situation (I speak about the start of all this, long before 2014).

And I dont understand how boycotting Russian gambling platforms will help to solve this mess...
legendary
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Didn't you  watch news everyday? Biden says sanctions are not meant for Russia to stop war. Not exwctly the word he used but I think he meant the sanctions won't make Russia back away.

If they want punish Russia, Biden will have to extend this war for months to years which is why he never initiates to arrange a negotiation table for to finally end. There were peace talks like in Turkey but  it always isnt fruitful. Instead Biden call for Russian citizen to remove Putin as president and this makes this war worse.
For a democratic country like Russia then there would really be some chances about impeachment or kicking out for being President but of course it is something that would easy
to happen yet this would mold even more problems internally thats why they havent done it yet even up to now.Sanctions by some countries isnt something that do really
mind off about stopping the war but totally different and in most cases most countries are really sharing up on the same view.
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Ukraine want to join on NATO and Putin sees that as a huge risk for their country if Ukraine will totally join on that organization. And since they are the one who start the war ofcourse people may look at Russian as evil for what they do on Russia but if we look at what Putin wants on this war we can really think about that he is just protecting his country on any war that might happen yo their country in future.

I don't believe we can justify invading another sovereign state in that way. What if Finland or Sweden decide to join NATO after this? Will Putin attack those countries as well "to protect his country"?



Are there a lot of Russian gambling platforms, that everyone wants to boycott? Those who want to do it, do you even gamble there? Or you just want to boycott something you dont use? Funny.

You can't boycott something you don't use, you moron.
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Didn't you  watch news everyday? Biden says sanctions are not meant for Russia to stop war. Not exwctly the word he used but I think he meant the sanctions won't make Russia back away.

If they want punish Russia, Biden will have to extend this war for months to years which is why he never initiates to arrange a negotiation table for to finally end. There were peace talks like in Turkey but  it always isnt fruitful. Instead Biden call for Russian citizen to remove Putin as president and this makes this war worse.
legendary
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Why not boycott mass media or press instead then? There are little independent news channels or reporters, majority belongs to someone and show truth profitable for only one part of party. Same as crypto influencers, that just get paid to say what is scripted.

Ukraine wont surrender, Russia wont stop until they reach their "unclear goal of this war" (otherwise other countries will jump on Russia like hyenas on dying lion and tear it apart). Make more sanctions against - everyone suffer from sanctions now. Russia suffers now, other countries will suffer later. Boycotting Russian gambling platforms ? I dont believe it will help, as foreigners dont gamble there much.
Media channel have been support by United State community and looks show information to public from one side only, never have any background about why the war invasion begin between Ukraine and Russia. I think about any boycott happening right because not independent with media by publish information and always make as Russia is bad on world eye. Better stopping with any words of boycott with Russia and keep building with peace negotiating between both site Ukraine and Russia, stop for joining as circle with NATO as Ukraine president and I think war could stop soon as possible.

Ukraine want to join on NATO and Putin sees that as a huge risk for their country if Ukraine will totally join on that organization. And since they are the one who start the war ofcourse people may look at Russian as evil for what they do on Russia but if we look at what Putin wants on this war we can really think about that he is just protecting his country on any war that might happen yo their country in future.

For now I'm supporting the boycott cause so that they might think about stopping this and have a firm negotiation on both parties.
legendary
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Why not boycott mass media or press instead then? There are little independent news channels or reporters, majority belongs to someone and show truth profitable for only one part of party. Same as crypto influencers, that just get paid to say what is scripted.

Ukraine wont surrender, Russia wont stop until they reach their "unclear goal of this war" (otherwise other countries will jump on Russia like hyenas on dying lion and tear it apart). Make more sanctions against - everyone suffer from sanctions now. Russia suffers now, other countries will suffer later. Boycotting Russian gambling platforms ? I dont believe it will help, as foreigners dont gamble there much.
Media channel have been support by United State community and looks show information to public from one side only, never have any background about why the war invasion begin between Ukraine and Russia. I think about any boycott happening right because not independent with media by publish information and always make as Russia is bad on world eye. Better stopping with any words of boycott with Russia and keep building with peace negotiating between both site Ukraine and Russia, stop for joining as circle with NATO as Ukraine president and I think war could stop soon as possible.
legendary
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Why not boycott mass media or press instead then? There are little independent news channels or reporters, majority belongs to someone and show truth profitable for only one part of party. Same as crypto influencers, that just get paid to say what is scripted.

Ukraine wont surrender, Russia wont stop until they reach their "unclear goal of this war" (otherwise other countries will jump on Russia like hyenas on dying lion and tear it apart). Make more sanctions against - everyone suffer from sanctions now. Russia suffers now, other countries will suffer later. Boycotting Russian gambling platforms ? I dont believe it will help, as foreigners dont gamble there much.
legendary
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Remember that journalist waving "No War" in Russian state media a couple of weeks before,we all thought finally some brave journalist to speak against the tyranny yet now after two weeks she is seen spreading Kremlin narrator to Western powers in a move to ease sanctions,it was all setup from the Russian government.

We should boycott them as much as we can after seeing such moves,Russia is suffering heavy losses in Kiev yet they continue,even if Ukraine surrenders now which is 100% unlikely Russia has already lost the war.They need to realize this as economically speaking they are suffering a lot,the normal citizens of Russia.
legendary
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There are proactive ways to Stop  any conflict or situation (war) one found himself. Boycotting Russian's own Gambling company might not be the best way to Stop the war. It will only affects the Nation's GDP, but remember other Countries will support Russian to Sustain during the war. If you boycott these companies, what of those people that have invested a lot.

Although it is a war tactics, but innocent people suffered the more.

The best ways to stop war are:

1. Set up a committee for the both sides of the war plus a neutral committee

2. Call the two parties for a dialogue

3. Settle the immediate and remote causes of the war.

With these I believe war can be called to a resolution stage.
I'm sure other countries have advised Russia to stop fighting, but what can they do if the Russian side doesn't want to stop the war? Other countries can form committees for both sides and call on both sides for dialogue, but there have been no good results so far. Maybe the Russians really have no intention of stopping the war until what they want is achieved. I think world leaders from all countries that are not involved in the war are already trying to stop the war and hopefully, the war can end as soon as possible.

We know that there are countries that still support Russia, and maybe that's why Russia still looks strong and doesn't show any desire to stop the war. But indeed, in this case, it is the people who suffer more from the war.

You are right, for now I have seen that many have other points of view, when we talk about crypto casinos the fact of being prohibited, but there is a conflict that I do not know if it is due to pure pride on the part of Putin, sometimes I think that Ukraine was the heart of the Soviet Union and clearly Putin does not want to lose that legacy, by losing such an important land for him he will not allow it to be surrendered by any point of view, then the amount of sanctions that are being given to Russia could trigger a war, NATO is very clear about its objectives, somehow the USA would not have imposed sanctions so quickly and so harshly in a short time, this boycott that affects Russia in every way, can affect the entire world, and I think that does not suit it to nobody.
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Yes, maybe we can't stop the war, but we can show our stand. He might have wanted this war to happen, but we can still show him that the world has not yet forgotten about the people who are suffering. The worst thing that could happen would be if we let this war happen and just forgot about it. It is good that the world is making a real effort to help, but we all need to do our part. To me, it is better to take action. We cannot help people if we don't act.

Many people are suffering, jobs gone, lands destroyed, properties destroyed, even farm lands are also destroyed which had cause so much havoc on the Ukrainian economy and businesses. War is not a thing to embrace and we need to take a bold step to reduce the effect of the war on other expects. This boycotting might seems to have  effect but I think we really need to show our conscience here so the Russian government can see reasons why the war must end.
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Great but simple answer lol, we are just looking for the bad action taken by Russia against Ukraine but we are not digging to what is the reason why this war become massive .

And what is the reason for this war in your opinion? And what should be done to stop the war and calm down the situation? What can we do, if anything?


We can't do anything to stop the situation because it is in Putin's hands how he would want to stop this war.
What we can do is send help or donation to the affected Ukranian citizens but send only to official ones.
Putin doesn't want Ukraine to be part of NATO, and now, it seems Ukraine concedes that they will not part of NATO anymore.
You can also read articles like the reasons why Putin is waging war on Ukraine -

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589 - Why has Russia invaded Ukraine and what does Putin want?

I hope the negotiations will be fast before more civilians will spare their lives to this unnecessary war.

Yes, maybe we can't stop the war, but we can show our stand. He might have wanted this war to happen, but we can still show him that the world has not yet forgotten about the people who are suffering. The worst thing that could happen would be if we let this war happen and just forgot about it. It is good that the world is making a real effort to help, but we all need to do our part. To me, it is better to take action. We cannot help people if we don't act.
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Are there a lot of Russian gambling platforms, that everyone wants to boycott? Those who want to do it, do you even gamble there? Or you just want to boycott something you dont use? Funny. I think mostly Russians are the only one who gamble there. Maybe someone from neighbour countries use them. But not many people abroad Russia, gamble there.  There are so many gambling platforms nowadays, than no one will even noticed that part of them are being under boycott.
You would really expect that people would go along on whats the trend or something that everyone is been thinking.Its true that only a few global users would really be using russian gambling sites thats why
its not really that important or big issue.Speaking of boycotting? Then it is someone on personal point of view whether they would support it or not but i dont see
that these business owners would suffer just because of this war happening.
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It would surely bring bad news to business owners since not all businesses are run by government so, it would hurt those who own business which will make them lose profit and lose some of the gamblers who are from Ukraine for example and those business owners will pay taxes which the government could earn. Russian businesses that are not owned or run by government will surely get affected if boycott will happen to russian businesses.

But the gambling owner in the Russia.They will pay tax for their business to government.Government get some money as tax from that government buy weapons for the war.So it’s better to support the gambling sites ,till the war end.Don’t think different and support by playing gambling of Russia.We no need to ban it,instead we skip of playing it.
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