Topic: Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms? - page 35. (Read 6233 times)
March 17, 2022, 04:54:49 PM
I guess it depends on the platform again they are still businesses that would like to run and it's not their mistake that their government and president declares a war they just working and all inspecting and decisions happen. Well if the collective boycott will introduce by scam gambling platforms ill do support it I guess. They commit a ware even though it has a covid its not good for the people of both each country they letting the people more suffering with the crisis.
March 17, 2022, 04:29:14 PM
^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/russia-going-offline-5389189. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598
March 16, 2022, 11:05:53 PM
Russia will not come easy against the sanctions, they have announced a crack down on all 310 companies, which have stopped their operations in Russia. But I find Putin the root cause of most of the evils. He thinks he will remain president forever. There is an end to everything, life, tenure, job, business. I think with the end of tenure of Putin. World will be a better place. HOPEFULLY!
Yes, that's correct. Putin can't be president forever. Perhaps he had forgotten about it, which made it seem like he was rushing to take crackdown on everyone who tried to fight him. Hopefully, Putin can soon realize that what he has done is wrong and has made his people suffer.We have given so much importacne to Russian and Ukraine war. But hardly talked about the other counties in humanitarian crisis for long. I am so tired of the killing and blood shed. This is not the right approach to any problem - I hope this war ends soon and may we all witness the dawn of peace.
No one wants to see murder and bloodshed, especially when it involves the lives of many people who don't know the real problem and have nothing to do with the war going on. We don't know what will happen if the whole world finally unites and presses Putin hard but hopefully, it will stop Putin from continuing wars that will have even worse repercussions. But if Putin still wants to continue the war against all the countries that want to fight him, maybe it will be the final fight for us.Both side between Ukraine and Russia president looks arrogant why not getting deal with peace to make their country back to normal and without have many citizen as victim. I hate with war and not any way to make war is true but still need how each other try to get deal for stopping this war. I hate with many boycott words every where with Russia and all side have impact from gambling network until football competition like Chelsea FC get suspend right now after have good relationship between Chelsea owner and Russia's president.
It was all for the sake of gaining greater power and showing if they did have the power to conquer other countries. But it will only cause casualties and the people who suffer the most. We all hate war but it has happened and other countries have not been able to stop the war. Maybe there needs to be help from other neutral countries who will invite the leaders to make peace and reach an agreement not to continue the war. March 16, 2022, 02:05:14 AM
WE are in very difficult time now. Being unaware of what is coming next. Earlier the whole world was fighting the Corona war and now the whole world is trying to cool the Ukraine war. The warlords have all the authority to do whatever they think is the right thing, Just because they think they have right to kill anyone anytime. Even if it is turing the whole country to ashes and snatching bread winners from the family.
We are still trying to fight against Corona while the attention of world leaders is divided to cool down the Ukraine war. That is why if the war in Ukraine and Russia can be ended soon, the government can focus again on helping the recovery of its people affected by the Corona virus. But it seems that the war between Ukraine and Russia doesn't know when it will end because there are no signs of getting there. Hopefully, the war between Ukraine and Russia does not get worse and does not have a greater impact. March 15, 2022, 11:06:59 PM
WE are in very difficult time now. Being unaware of what is coming next. Earlier the whole world was fighting the Corona war and now the whole world is trying to cool the Ukraine war. The warlords have all the authority to do whatever they think is the right thing, Just because they think they have right to kill anyone anytime. Even if it is turing the whole country to ashes and snatching bread winners from the family.
We are still trying to fight against Corona while the attention of world leaders is divided to cool down the Ukraine war. That is why if the war in Ukraine and Russia can be ended soon, the government can focus again on helping the recovery of its people affected by the Corona virus. But it seems that the war between Ukraine and Russia doesn't know when it will end because there are no signs of getting there. Hopefully, the war between Ukraine and Russia does not get worse and does not have a greater impact. 
March 15, 2022, 01:06:39 PM
I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.
But if Russian citizens that are not really directly involved with the invasion are affected by this crisis, they will then look for ways to be free of these sanctions and damages that their own government is giving them. Think of it like they're going to start a rebellion against their government that will overthrow the current head of state. It's not far from happening, considering the many coups and revolutions Russia has had in its entire existence. If the citizens themselves are being oppressed for something that they didn't do, they will, sooner or later, act and remove the root cause of all these problems, just like what any other countries that has had successful revolutions in the past.
Russian gambling platform owners do have enough money and capacity to help fund a rebellion, or at least influence other officials to go against Putin. If their business is hurt hard enough, they'd surely band together and put an end to Putin's delusion.
March 15, 2022, 08:20:01 AM
I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.
This has merit, but I believe the primary goal of this was to show support to Ukrainians who are currently fighting in their war; this is similar to other actions taken to show support to them, such as banning Russia from participating in games or other events. Despite the fact that it will have an impact on everyone, the main goal was to demonstrate to them that they were wrong and that they shouldn't do what they were doing. As you can see, a lot of large corporations are either outright banning Russia or allowing something to be done to mock Russia. That is simply unadulterated support for Ukraine.
March 14, 2022, 10:37:26 PM
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You are right. By getting lithium from Ukraine, he can get other resources that can further strengthen his position as a powerful country. Maybe he wanted to build the Soviet Union like it used to be and even stronger because now he had a much stronger fleet than before. If Putin manages to get to Ukraine, he will improve the economic standards in his country and there is a possibility that he will tighten things up even more. His dream probably won't go the way he wants it because many countries out there don't go his way.==
Everyone hopes that the war can end soon because, after all, it is the people who will suffer more and more from the effects of war. Maybe later, there will be an offer from Putin to Zelensky that will make him interested in Putin's plans and eventually, Zelensky will decide to join Putin to end the war. If the boycott continues, the Russian economy may take a bit of a hit but I don't think it will weaken Russia because Russia has a lot of natural resources that can still help them survive. March 14, 2022, 09:24:02 PM
I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.
We hate and want to stop war but not have to boycott of all Russian gambling site platform trough still trusted with deposit and withdrawal still process why have to make Russian gambling site as fault on war invasion. I think many big mistake made so far from sport competition suspend by FIFA until have this announcement for boycott with Russian gambling site, why many people looks blind with Russian invasion and we need to know why this war happening without any good choose to make right with war but need way how to solve this war without boycott all Russian gambling site. 
March 14, 2022, 07:37:36 PM
I don't think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents and I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions.
Russia is a big country, with a lot of inhabitants and a significant part of them will certainly be interested in gambling. Certainly because it is possible via Crypto, the origin of their money cannot be traced. Russians like to gamble, you can feel your own moral obligation to keep Russian customers away, but we are talking about a lot of money that you miss out on. Plus, it's pretty useless if all the sites don't come together to take action. Then they can always play at another site. I don't believe that all gambling sites will ever join this idea, the interests are too great for that and the Russians can't help it that there is war in the end. Putin should actually take a gamble at a gambling site, he has enough money.
March 14, 2022, 06:42:49 PM
^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/russia-going-offline-5389189. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598
We will not know what they are doing to halt this Russian invasion or at least to slow down this war. Most of them will say that it is highly confidential but if they can contribute in slowing down this war, we will appreciate this move. People are dying for no reasons. But Putin seems to be not stopping this "demilitarizing" action towards Ukraine. Somebody needs to step up and if this Anonymous group can contribute in terms of cyber attack, why not?
March 14, 2022, 05:53:41 PM
^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/russia-going-offline-5389189. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline.I wasnt aware that US is engaging with it but i did some research and it is really actually happening
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/12/cyber-russia-hacking-security-00016598
March 14, 2022, 05:35:09 PM
^ I saw on meta about this thread, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/russia-going-offline-5389189. Russia will be going offline, they completely disconnect global internet, so how those gambling casinos that based on Russia? There is no boycott anymore, they decided already to cut down their global internet and they only access their local website which is I don't think how they can communicate other outside websites like casinos, not unless someone will use VPN all of these is useless implementation. Anyone could share their thought on this.
I am not an expert on the topic but I remember reading about it some time ago, and for what I understood the population will be able to keep using the Internet since it is the government the one that is going offline, after all we must remember that the cyberspace is a place too in which wars can be fought, so while the US and their allies could not fight openly against Russia they can in fact do so in the cyberspace and disable key aspects of the military or even structures from the government, so it makes sense for the Russian government to potentially go offline. 
March 14, 2022, 03:43:08 AM
I disagree - the super power keeps on imposing there power shows on the weak countries and there is no stopping till date. They know they are the lawmakers and lawbreakers. Whatever they like, they are free to do anything to anyone. They can call one nation/ group terrorists and they make friends with them when the deem fit. I second those who think Putin is carefree of the sanctions.
We know that Russia is not a weak country. Maybe that's why Putin doesn't really care about the sanctions he's already received from other countries. It seems that Putin is very confident in all the power he has and it really is. We know that supplies from Russia contribute to the world and if it were to be stopped, there is a possibility that the supplies will disrupt. And this is why Putin doesn't give much thought to the impact of the sanctions imposed on him. Other countries that need supplies from Putin will try to save money until it's all over and we don't know when the war will end.He is thinking that he has a lot of wheat and corn to export and together with Ukraine they stand for 34% of all the world trade for such goods.He also wants to get the South of Ukraine because there is a lot of lithium there to power the batteries of electric cars beside having all the wheat and corn which are basic goods.He thinks that if he manages to invade Ukraine and make Ukraine part of Russia he will be even more powerful than he already is.It is not as they say he has a dream of bringing back USSR rather for me he wants to become an economic super power because so far Russia may be a great country but with a really poor economy.Average salary of a teacher is like 250-300 EUR in 2020 as latest indicator which is pathetic for any European country standard.
March 14, 2022, 03:32:11 AM
I disagree - the super power keeps on imposing there power shows on the weak countries and there is no stopping till date. They know they are the lawmakers and lawbreakers. Whatever they like, they are free to do anything to anyone. They can call one nation/ group terrorists and they make friends with them when the deem fit. I second those who think Putin is carefree of the sanctions.
We know that Russia is not a weak country. Maybe that's why Putin doesn't really care about the sanctions he's already received from other countries. It seems that Putin is very confident in all the power he has and it really is. We know that supplies from Russia contribute to the world and if it were to be stopped, there is a possibility that the supplies will disrupt. And this is why Putin doesn't give much thought to the impact of the sanctions imposed on him. Other countries that need supplies from Putin will try to save money until it's all over and we don't know when the war will end. 
March 14, 2022, 12:56:40 AM
Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
If we plan to boycott everything out of Russia, then it'll surely make some impact on Russia's economy. Same time we need to think, afterall these are all businesses owned by Russians. Only a small population of Russians are into making war whereas the majority are against the war and are protesting against the government. So, what we do could affect everyone for the mistake from a small group.We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
March 13, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
Putin doesn't care about all of those. Even there are threats, sanctions, and rewards for him to be taken, he doesn't care. He's the kind of leader that will push whatever he liked. From what I've read at first when the war has started, everyone is saying that you should start to learn about their history.
But even if we understand their history, we don't like the attacks and we condemn the invasion because no one wants to be in a war, and no one wants to be a casualty during a war.
But even if we understand their history, we don't like the attacks and we condemn the invasion because no one wants to be in a war, and no one wants to be a casualty during a war.
Yes. These things aren't important to Putin. The west doesn't understand Putin's Ukraine obsession. He is after the land, he is after the wealth, he is after power. He sees it as a soviet-era trend. There is a return to Soviet-era thinking, and it is about territory, wealth and power. Putin is at the center of the story, and this small group of people around him. They are basically the last remnant of Soviet elites. People like these sincerely believe that the West is hostile, who sincerely believe that the West denies Russia its rightful place in the world.
Can sanctions and boycotts stop Putin and end Russia's war in Ukraine? I would say that is unlikely. Just think about the Olympic boycott of Russia. That was a symbolic gesture, even though there was a weak economic impact. But don't forget that it is a huge signal. It may not be enough to win over Putin, but in terms of Russia's international reputation it played an important role.
This doesn't mean that sanctions will be the only way to resolve the crisis. But it is a powerful symbolic signal, and Russians can't ignore it. In the event that Putin leaves the scene, the sanctions and boycotts will disappear. That's my way of thinking.
March 13, 2022, 04:07:22 PM
There is no point for this boycott at all. The money is going in and out of casino for the civilian use or whose gambling it. This money is not black money which is operative for the military actions. Only businesses that are in relation with the War should be boycotted from the Russia. For example, international trades with them to show them long term bad effect on the Russian economy.
What casino has to do with the future of Russia? The money is getting gambled in the Russia and being utilised inside itself. That won’t make much difference to it.
What casino has to do with the future of Russia? The money is getting gambled in the Russia and being utilised inside itself. That won’t make much difference to it.
March 13, 2022, 03:48:32 PM
Putin doesn't care about all of those. Even there are threats, sanctions, and rewards for him to be taken, he doesn't care. He's the kind of leader that will push whatever he liked. From what I've read at first when the war has started, everyone is saying that you should start to learn about their history.
But even if we understand their history, we don't like the attacks and we condemn the invasion because no one wants to be in a war, and no one wants to be a casualty during a war.
But even if we understand their history, we don't like the attacks and we condemn the invasion because no one wants to be in a war, and no one wants to be a casualty during a war.
Yes. These things aren't important to Putin. The west doesn't understand Putin's Ukraine obsession. He is after the land, he is after the wealth, he is after power. He sees it as a soviet-era trend. There is a return to Soviet-era thinking, and it is about territory, wealth and power. Putin is at the center of the story, and this small group of people around him. They are basically the last remnant of Soviet elites. People like these sincerely believe that the West is hostile, who sincerely believe that the West denies Russia its rightful place in the world.
Can sanctions and boycotts stop Putin and end Russia's war in Ukraine? I would say that is unlikely. Just think about the Olympic boycott of Russia. That was a symbolic gesture, even though there was a weak economic impact. But don't forget that it is a huge signal. It may not be enough to win over Putin, but in terms of Russia's international reputation it played an important role.
This doesn't mean that sanctions will be the only way to resolve the crisis. But it is a powerful symbolic signal, and Russians can't ignore it. In the event that Putin leaves the scene, the sanctions and boycotts will disappear. That's my way of thinking.
It is very unlikely that Putin will leave the scene. He will lead the Russian till his death.
My question is more reasonable if this war between Ukraine and Russia comes to an end, will the sanctions on Russia be lifted? Even with Putin in power, will bodies like Olympic and FIFA allow Russians to participate?
I don't hear or know any gambling platform that puts sanctions on Russians. Is there any?
Absolutely not.The sanctions will go on for much longer,the world will not forget that easily what Putin and Russia did as we cannot blame one single man for such big scale invasion of a free sovereign country.It is backed by most of the Russian population,surely they are lied day and night by the Kremlin propaganda but in the end if they wanted another source of news I am sure there are many alternatives in our time technology backed like the Internet and a VPN which can tell you the truth and not just a distort reality like Kremlin does.
March 13, 2022, 12:48:23 PM
It is very unlikely that Putin will leave the scene. He will lead the Russian till his death.
My question is more reasonable if this war between Ukraine and Russia comes to an end, will the sanctions on Russia be lifted?
if the war ever ended NATO or the west will take this opportunity to take advantage of the situation and ask for something in return if they are going to lift the sanction that has been put on Russia. not sure what they'll ask but I am certain that they will ask for something.My question is more reasonable if this war between Ukraine and Russia comes to an end, will the sanctions on Russia be lifted?
Even with Putin in power, will bodies like Olympic and FIFA allow Russians to participate?
if the sanctions have been lifted I don't see any reason why sports bodies would continue to prohibit Russian athletes to participate, unless the prohibition has nothing to do with the sanctions.I don't hear or know any gambling platform that puts sanctions on Russians. Is there any?
I don't know about any bitcoin casinos. but I did a little google search and it seems that PokerStars suspended their operation in Russia and froze Costumer's funds from Russiahttps://pokerfuse.com/news/industry/217307-pokerstars-exits-russia-freezes-customer-funds/
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