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Topic: www.BITSTAMP.net Bitcoin exchange site for USD/BTC - page 21. (Read 231282 times)

member
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put me on speeddial#1
To me it looks like they run out of fiat. Took out a good few USD over the last few months of 2013, no problem. A couple of days ago a substantially smaller withdrawal got stuck, due to insufficient KYC. Rubbish, I'd say. Some of the questions they asked (ie address of SEPA bank) are already answered by their db. Others make hardly any sense. Not unlike MtGox last summer. The delays got longer and longer, the excuses weaker and weaker. bitstamp came up with KYC, mtgox told people they could only transfer whatever tiny amount per day due to bank restrictions.
When the fiat came surging in, they were able to pay out, now, with people trying to cash out and presumably no fresh money coming in, they struggle... Only thing, they should have got the money at some stage. 


For weeks I have been doing 5 digit USD withdrawals every single day at Bitstamp, no problems!!!

I did have to follow up on 2 extra KYC / AML questionnaires which took just 24 hours to be processed, other than that no problems.

Just follow up on KYC / AML questions and all is fine.
newbie
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To me it looks like they run out of fiat. Took out a good few USD over the last few months of 2013, no problem. A couple of days ago a substantially smaller withdrawal got stuck, due to insufficient KYC. Rubbish, I'd say. Some of the questions they asked (ie address of SEPA bank) are already answered by their db. Others make hardly any sense. Not unlike MtGox last summer. The delays got longer and longer, the excuses weaker and weaker. bitstamp came up with KYC, mtgox told people they could only transfer whatever tiny amount per day due to bank restrictions.
When the fiat came surging in, they were able to pay out, now, with people trying to cash out and presumably no fresh money coming in, they struggle... Only thing, they should have got the money at some stage. 
sr. member
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Decentralized Ascending Auctions on Blockchain
Mates, don't believe you cannot withdraw BTC due to KYC/AML.

I've been saying here in this thread and around backed by the exchange manager of my bank, that BTC is not money and so it is out of the scope of any financial institutions / kyc / aml. It is free of any financial regulation.

Today even the Federal Bank of the United States said that:

"I think it's important to understand that this is a payment innovation that's taking place entirely outside the banking industry," Yellen told Sen. Joe Manchin, D-WV. "The Federal Reserve simply does not have the authority to supervise or regulate Bitcoin in any way."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/02/27/yellen-bitcoin-senate-testimony/5872039/


Whoever can't withdraw BTC from Bitstamp or any other exchange is being scammed.

My next step will be small claims, they're UK registered so they'll hve to respond
sr. member
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Mates, don't believe you cannot withdraw BTC due to KYC/AML.

I've been saying here in this thread and around backed by the exchange manager of my bank, that BTC is not money and so it is out of the scope of any financial institutions / kyc / aml. It is free of any financial regulation.

Today even the Federal Bank of the United States said that:

"I think it's important to understand that this is a payment innovation that's taking place entirely outside the banking industry," Yellen told Sen. Joe Manchin, D-WV. "The Federal Reserve simply does not have the authority to supervise or regulate Bitcoin in any way."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/02/27/yellen-bitcoin-senate-testimony/5872039/


Whoever can't withdraw BTC from Bitstamp or any other exchange is being scammed.
hero member
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Just stopped by here to post that my withdrawal went through also, it took another 1.5 week after I answered the additional KYC info.
newbie
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why i cant withdraw BTC? I need my coins out badly! But it says YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW AT THE MOMENT. and no reply from support. Please help! Huh Huh
hero member
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I'd just like to say that my payment of $6000 came through.
sr. member
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I can't help but be curious about this post on reddit:
Bitstamp's bank refused to open me a bank account as soon as I mentioned bitcoin

So, one of the biggest exchanges have their account with a bank that doesn't allow bitcoin businesses.
Link is garbled. Try this.

Fixed it. Thanks for pointing it out.
hero member
Activity: 574
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I can't help but be curious about this post on reddit:
Bitstamp's bank refused to open me a bank account as soon as I mentioned bitcoin

So, one of the biggest exchanges have their account with a bank that doesn't allow bitcoin businesses.
Link is garbled. Try this.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
I can't help but be curious about this post on reddit:
Bitstamp's bank refused to open me a bank account as soon as I mentioned bitcoin

So, one of the biggest exchanges have their account with a bank that doesn't allow bitcoin businesses.
sr. member
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Decentralized Ascending Auctions on Blockchain
I admitted I used a fake name on my bitstamp account.

I have now supplied all my real details

all withdrawals are still pending.

Support won't respond.

It looks to me like you just decided to keep my $6000

PLEASE just fucking cancel the withdrawals and let me get my btc at least.

I have given you all my details, I do NOT understand why you can't just verify me and let me take the btc back.

sr. member
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Decentralized Ascending Auctions on Blockchain
Why can't I get a fucking response about the 6000 you have tied up in my account which you won't allow me to withdraw
hero member
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Can Bitstamp answer why they and various other Exchange operators were made aware of this MtGox issue several DAYS prior to the public thus allowing them to not only dump their BTC at much higher prices but also ensure they could, if it happened, rid themselves of any GoxBTC/GoxUSD using the various methods that were available.

I find that wholly irresponsible from an Exchange and the various "high level" Investors involved in the "Joint Statement" -- Nejc your CEO was one of them.
hero member
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Thanks for issuing the statement so promptly

These are nervous times for many of us, so this helps
legendary
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https://www.bitstamp.net/article/Statement-by-Bitstamp-regarding-MtGox-insolv/

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Statement by Bitstamp regarding Mt Gox insolvency

Bitcoin Is Still Working and Still Has a Bright Future

The worldwide peer-to-peer payment system and crypto-currency known as Bitcoin is not dependant on any one actor. The Bitcoin protocol continues to work exactly as designed. Bitcoin remains strong despite the failure of any one exchange and will continue to grow and thrive as long people desire that it do so.

Losses Limited to Balances at MtGox

It is important to underscore that the losses of fiat currency and Bitcoin are limited to those balances that were in MtGox’s care. The MtGox exchange can best explain how this happened.

Bitstamp Customers are Safe and Our Business is Solvent

We at Bitstamp have conducted a thorough audit of our bitcoin accounts, as well as the fiat currency reserves we maintain in the bank. Bitstamp maintains all of its customers’ bitcoin and cash deposits and nothing is amiss.

Bitstamp is Not Subject to the Transaction Malleability Vulnerability

Bitstamp uses a different protocol to handle problems in closing out its transactions and is not vulnerable to the “transactional malleability” issue that was apparently exploited at Mt. Gox. Additionally, we manually double-check every transactional problem encountered by our customers.

Bitstamp’s Future

We are taking steps to provide Bitstamp’s customers with the utmost confidence in our operations:

1. Bitstamp is financially stronger than ever. We have the most customers, and the most solid capital base, than we have ever had.
2. Bitstamp has retained the best available security and compliance advisors to assist us in protecting our clients.
3. Bitstamp prides itself on industry-leading compliance with its AML and KYC procedures.
4. Bitstamp is now performing quarterly financial audits and will post our financial reports on our web site.
sr. member
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This man agree with me:

Joseph Borg, state securities administrator in Alabama and a past president of the North American State Securities Administrators Association.

Borg has been involved in a wide range of high-profile cases in his 20 years on the Alabama Securities Commission perhaps most notably pushing for the formation of the multi-state task force that ultimately shut down Stratton Oakmont, the investment firm that was the basis for the recent movie “The Wolf of Wall Street.”


“Dealing with these exchanges should be no different than dealing with your bank or your financial institution,” Borg said,

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/regulator-to-sound-alarm-on-bitcoin-2014-02-24?link=MW_latest_news
hero member
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Yeah, it's about limit orders that get queued. My bot makes relatively small trades, where the profit on each trade is even smaller. While the order sits in the queue, the price can shift a few $, sometimes negating the profit that was to be made.
legendary
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I'm obviously not a dev at Bitstamp, but I think I can answer the question:

To my knowledge, stamp doesn't really place 'market' orders (as in: matching your order in an instant, until filled), but places successively higher/lower limit orders on your behalf if you place a market order. Hence the delay.

Not saying this excuses it, but as a consequence, I personally only use limit orders, after looking at the order book, that are set such that I can be sure my order is filled entirely. Much, much faster that way.


EDIT: unless you actually meant limit orders. In that case, ignore my above comment, please.

We are indeed actually talking about limit orders (Placed way higher/lower than market, So they should fill instantly, but instead they are put in queue for 10 seconds under "open orders", while the market moves away).

Very strange then. I usually see my limit orders executed within a few seconds. Not exactly forex speed, but not really a problem for me (as in: compared to overall slippage I experience, the small changes of the order book don't really make a dent). No idea why it's different then. I'll pay attention to it from now on, though.
sr. member
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I'm obviously not a dev at Bitstamp, but I think I can answer the question:

To my knowledge, stamp doesn't really place 'market' orders (as in: matching your order in an instant, until filled), but places successively higher/lower limit orders on your behalf if you place a market order. Hence the delay.

Not saying this excuses it, but as a consequence, I personally only use limit orders, after looking at the order book, that are set such that I can be sure my order is filled entirely. Much, much faster that way.


EDIT: unless you actually meant limit orders. In that case, ignore my above comment, please.

We are indeed actually talking about limit orders (Placed way higher/lower than market, So they should fill instantly, but instead they are put in queue for 10 seconds under "open orders", while the market moves away).
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1007
I'm obviously not a dev at Bitstamp, but I think I can answer the question:

To my knowledge, stamp doesn't really place 'market' orders (as in: matching your order in an instant, until filled), but places successively higher/lower limit orders on your behalf if you place a market order. Hence the delay.

Not saying this excuses it, but as a consequence, I personally only use limit orders, after looking at the order book, that are set such that I can be sure my order is filled entirely. Much, much faster that way.


EDIT: unless you actually meant limit orders. In that case, ignore my above comment, please.
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