Topic: XBTec - campaign terminated - page 17. (Read 28533 times)

Here we go again with your condescending attitude.  Obviously we have no choice but to wait.  Therefore, we will wait.  However, it's now Friday, the original plan was Sunday to Sunday weeks.  The second wee is apparently Sunday to Tuesday because that's when Yamamoto got around to doing the numbers.  Yakamoto posted on Tuesday "calculations done, payments on the way".  Three days later we just wait for the convenience of an instant btc payment to eventually be effected.

@bitcoininformation
I'm not currently involved in this campaign, but there is NO excuse for delayed payments.

Here we go again Can't you guys just wait patiently instead of complaining that it takes a bit longer. It has happened before, it won't magically disappear. Yes, someone is helping, but that doesn't mean that OP won't check it himself. Stuff like this takes time and yes, sometimes longer then expected.

Sure, we have to wait, I understand.  But its been over 48 hours since you posted that the spreadsheet was sent.  Waiting 3 days for a bitcoin payment is sorta ironic, maybe he should just send a cheque in the post.  Seriously though, its already Friday in the far east, I wonder why such delay.

The escrow has been send back. OP said that I only had to transfer back 0.96BTC, so I did. The rest has been transferred to a paper wallet.

Great choice, keep up watching if there is too much spam (but as already told is a lot less heavy task)

The OP has confirmed receiving the spreadsheet, so expect payouts at least beginning today. Sorry for all this, but he lives in Moscow, and as such, it's a bit difficult time-zone wise.

I'm still waiting for payment for the week which ended Tuesday.  It's now Thursday in the West.  Has anyone been paid this week?

Ok so due to this being my first time doing this, in a real campaign setting, please give a bit of grace for some minor mistakes.

And,

Due to the overwhelming agreement from older members to have a pm-based system, if the OP agrees, we will be switching to that! It appears that everyone wants to go and have this system in place, and I'm fine with it! It looks like a good set up, and anything that decreases workload I wouldn't mind having.

As such, there will be some new requirements that have to be in place, but other than that, it would remain nearly the same.

I have 3 users tagged for excessive posting in the Chinese sub-forum, not necessarily spam however. I still have to think what to do about this, but due to the count of the characters and the context of the thread, most times I can see something constructive being made. I'll still have to see.

Other than that, most members had posts that were good in one way or another. There were a few posts people made I wasn't sure about, but I think they're droned out by the quality of most of the other posts. There were a few members that didn't do so well (And I was looking at the context of the thread) and I'll on and talk with them on how to work on it.

Link is coming as soon as I can get to my computer, got really busy checking posts and then had other things in real life call my name urgently. And yes, it does exist!

I will not wait, since the escrow was meant for the first payment. It has been paid and I have given people 24 hours to send me a message if they still haven't been paid / if there was a problem. I got none, so I'm returning the escrowed funds. That was our agreement and so shall it happen. I cannot and will not change the agreed terms.

Please, if the agreements admit this, wait until yakamoto has posted the postcount list, to check if the amount of considered posts is fair

This is what I advised him when he asked me how he could reduce the workload and time needed to check every single member of his campaign.
By the way, I really dig the new Sr. Member and Hero Member signatures. They look amazing!

EDIT: About the escrow, I waiting for OP to give me a Bitcoin address to which I can return the escrowed funds. As soon as I receive it they will be send back.

Sometimes you can tell, not always. For instance, if i say only "Yes, you can", w/o quoting the original post that i'm going to reply, yakamoto for sure will mark it as spam, when maybe is a constructive post cause has helped an user to fix his problem. In this case the only way to check the constructiveness is to read the entire thread (not so feasible for a person that should check all the posts of a lot of users)

For this reason, in my humble opinion, xbtec should use the old but valid method of receiving from every user his count of constructive posts.

you can tell by the context of a one liner post contributes to a topic or not.  IF you cant then your a tard. 

I seen idiots posting I hope I win some coins, cause I need them, that was on topic but still not constructive.  If it dont add anything good to the post then is spam cause you are in sig campaign and that how mods will see it.

Imho is very energy expensive manually check posts of every user of this campaign, but mainly it can be dangerous because yakamoto check only the "raw" post, without going to see also the post context (also knowed as "thread"). In most cases watching the thread is the only way to understand well why a one liner post has been posted, but especially why is constructive.
So please XBTec, stop this way of post counting and leave users to count constructive posts by sending you a pm, of course maintaining a spam check. We are Full, Sr or even Hero members, not children that must be controlled.

What is happening more and more, is people who copycat other posts, in a thread. I started a thread yesterday, and of the 8 responses, 5 was saying the same thing.

People do not read the whole thread, they read the topic, and jump in and say the same thing, everyone else is saying. Not to be rude, but be creative and add something new and constructive.

Do not just post, to push post count, it's clear when you do that.

Giving verdict on constructive post is actually very relative. In short people should be interested in what u r posting. For example, check this post of a XBTec campaigner...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/russia-planning-to-push-dollar-in-crisis-chance-for-bitcoin-664620

The post is performing well drawing so many eyeballs to XBTec ads in OP's signature. But OP did not actually write anything. Still, I would consider this, a constructive post.

I agree with this in a way, I think the campaign runners are turning this into a bigger thing than what is needed and what is good for themselves too.

I mean, checking everyones posts is going to take a while and not be fun. Instead they should just have everyone send a PM to someone once a week with the amount of constructive posts they want to be paid for and if they happen to see that someone has been spamming way too much for his constructive post count. Then they can conduct the amount they feel necessary and just pay him a smaller amount. And if the person tries to cheat his post amount many weeks in a row, then they should be sent into a black list.

Keeping track on everyones post is going to take a long time for the devs, but whatever they feel is necessary I guess. I'm happy with it.

But I do agree that constructiveness depends on the thread most of the time and the post they have replied to. If it's something that can be explained in a couple of words and is still related to the thread and question, then of course it's constructive since the writer isn't just spamming but has read the thread beforehand and then afterwards replied with an appropriate answer.

Can you state what guidelines a post should respect to be considered spam?

Hi,

my status also change from junior member to member. Please update in your list I will be post this week as a member.