Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 423. (Read 1484189 times)

Exactly, we have a great committed team and a lot to be grateful for... Xc will rise to the top.. Just enjoy the ride and tell your kids about the journey.. Remember patience is a virtue!

This is the only thing that we should see written from users like this one
Cheers

+1 - shhh - I think our fudster is asleep right now

I would think that if you want to stick up for Jasin then it is not appropriate for you do do it in your role as an XC team member.
In the corporate or political world one would leave this sort of issue up to an independent third party, Jasin would step down until such time as the issue was resolved. There are well worn paths for negotiating such issues. Here there is not. Cryptos are in many way a radical and disruptive technology, so it's unclear where they fit or how such things should be resolved. Are crypto's something which will b e integrated in an existing system or something that facilitates something new and beneficial for us all?
Revolutionary is a much cliched word, but, IMHO a currency secured by cryptography rather than traditional means is truly revolutionary, and so it's still unclear how this will fit in, as (despite the sometimes corporate terminology) it is an extremely radical medium and technology.

Anyway...to answer your question..."How is it that you are not satisfied?".... I would prefer that your involvement in issues outside of XC, such as this issue, were separated from your involvement with XC.

I've said it before, the best way to deal with FUD attacks is to drown it with constructive & positive posts.

What's the next version number of XC going to be? As I understand, it will be final rev. 2?

Latest version number is 0.9.2.48a_RC2.XCurrency-2.47.
Wouldn't it be wise to change version numbering a bit? Current naming of the releases is a bit confusing as the current version includes v 2.48a and 2.47 at the same time.

If the next final rev 2 won't include 2.5's XChat and New UI preview, wouldn't it be wise to handle it as 2.49?
Changing the version numbering to a bit less confusing would let people follow the roadmap a bit easier.

+1 , that thread is a mistake. the obejective observer is on his side right now, we better accept this reality quick.

That's what's awesome; it doesn't matter.  Bitcoin could have been conceived during an eight year stint in prison.

The mathematics presented in satoshi's whitepaper are legit. The blockchain concept works. Removing the element of trust ensures the irrelevance of personal background or malicious intentions, even of the creator(s). This is all assuming the code for any given coin can be reviewed and verified (which will eventually be the case for xc).

The math speaks for itself, as will the code.

What are we concerned about here guys?

Well that honors you , but trust me stating "he is not an official member" is not enough right now. it will only fuel the fud cause its not really precise. thats not clearing up. That he has family issues is a fucked up situation which makes the whole situation more difficult but to really clear this up he has to be present. at least briefly. I probably sound like the biggest ass now but do you have proof of his situation? And if so would you behave the same way in that situation yourself with people relying on you?

Jasin i wish you and your fam all the best but there are lifeprojects of people working day and night sabotaged by your unsolved work issues right now!!!

He should issue a statement seperating himself and his Asic problems from XC. than PoBC should be put on ice until he solves the fibonacci stuff to full customer satisfaction. thats the only way out in my opinion. PoBC makes no sense with a dev that has this issues brewing. But if everything turns out good it would still be an option. I f he means good for XC he stands as far from it as possible atm. that would show responsibility and character to the level we are known from the rest of the team.

Lets not stoop to his level?

Hope you don't mind if I add to this advice - from an observer/investor's point of view...

I think this is right -- people can't differentiate so you have to do it for them. Give fudsters an inch and they will try to bring you down.
And it doesn't even matter even if 80% of the people can differentiate, because those people make a bet that the ones that can't differentiate
will act accordingly. So naturally people worry that fud attacks will work anyway no matter how incoherent they are.

It's just politics - and I think you're being too rational (Arlyn I mean). You present an argument based on the maximum amount of evidence - you're probably thinking you wouldn't
refuse a drink from Jasin if he offered to buy you one, and you refuse to lie about that. This is admirable but it's meat and drink to fudsters who don't care about rational argument (although of course they always pretend that they do in order to make their case look stronger) but just want to pick up as much evidence as possible that supports their fud. Like I said it's just politics, and the political thing would be to pretend that actually there was a huge row and that he was excommunicated.

We all know that politics is like this, but the beauty part is it works because it's the converse of the above: people are happy because they know that even though 80% can see through the bullshit, the other 20% of dumb-asses are being catered for.  

Open a new thread to talk about FUDer

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rdnkjdi-a-senior-fud-maker-771271

Jasin has not been present of late for personal reasons concerning his family, which of course I will not disclose further.

It would not be fair to expect him to show up now, and I'm happy to work on this in his absence.

I agree completely that this mess should be cleared up asap. So henceforth, whenever someone connects XC to Jasin, can you all repeat my previous post? If you want to be brief, he's not an official member of the team. Enough said.

Man that jasin drama thread title is really misleading, that fucking asshole puts Dan in a bad light for everybody that doesn't go into the thread. not cool.

My stance on the issue.

I hope you guys internally go really really hard on jasin right now. that dude has to explain in detail from start to finish and also show some proof for PoBC. The fact that he lets synechist and teka defend him here , go through all that stress not beeing able to do actual work, and not showing up for even one post, ..,  meh. i don't like. I don't know how big his contributions as a coder where but PR wise he caused a lot of trouble as of now and he doesn't bother to come on here and take XC a little bit out of the fire. I know he brought you to that conference, but all his actions afterwards didn't help but rather the opposite. I actually believe we would be trading higher now without him.
You guys have a track records for delivering stuff when its done, so PoBC is to far in the future to reflect in current price anyway. What i wanna say is without the outlook of PoBC but also without jasins drama (including the way he came forward with the collab) we would be higher know, i truly believe. at the time i didn't bother cause i wanted as much cheap XC as possible. But now the crunchtime in crypto starts again and we should be in the mix by october. Everything is on perfect track for this exept jasins troubles yet again (or still).
solve this shit for good before rev3! you don't wanna put in all that hard and great work and then have him hold you back with HIS issues. people can't differentiate. this shit will affect XC no matter how well you explain. and you explain really well. but do you wanna do this hundreds times over the coming weeks?

It actually reflects good for you guys to stand by him for now but he really needs to start to deliver, and not in some weeks. KNOW.

XCurrency is the best project in crypto, You guys are developing some great relationships with other coin projects atm. Perhaps its time to reevaluate this one.

Jasin if you read this, Show up for fucks sake!!! These guys don't deserve that shit they have to go through because of YOU.

I think they are pretty clear that he is not on the team and he hasn't been for some time. I agree going into details that they are still willing to discuss with him is maybe too much troll feeding. I think the point they are trying to make is that the issue of him not being in XC is not related to the problems other people have with him. But he is not in XC anyway. So this whole discussion to me seems entirely irrelevant to XC - there are numerous other projects where he actually is involved.   

Man, I've told you repeatedly (i.e. at least three times) in the other thread what Jasin's role is, which is that he is officially not an XC team member, as the website states. What more could you want?

Secondly it is not as simple as just saying that he is not part of the team. Because Jasin was part of the team he remains associated with XC in people's minds. And fudsters, as you can see, exploit this maximally.

Furthermore we are obliged, on ethical grounds, to let investors know that we are in touch with Jasin regularly and thus have not simply excommunicated him. His withdrawal from the XC team does not constitute any withdrawal of faith in him on our part.

Finally it would be equally unethical - a betrayal of him - to not voice our confidence in Jasin's integrity and strongly object to unsubstantiated claims that he is a scammer. We have every expectation that he will sort out his ASIC woes and not just disappear.

I've said this to you several times. How is it that you are not satisfied?

I firmly believe in the XC and the team. 80% of my btc I have invested in the XC. But honestly, that Jasin a part of the team is or was makes me nervous for a long time.
I know many that have lost a lot of money through it. I also think it is very unwise to discuss his Asic Scam and defend him. From the theme, the XC team should urgently hold out.

+1

True, XC is a bargain right now

I think Jasinlee deserves to be innocent until proven guilty...as we all should be, but I don't think there is any need to engage people who have outside issues. Maybe Jasinlee can help XC. Maybe lot's of other people can help XC, but if they are not team members then there is no need for the XC team to have to defend them nor discuss them IMHO