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Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 439. (Read 1484191 times)

legendary
Activity: 1256
Merit: 1009
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However you weren't able to define terms clearly enough to persuade me of your view.

I really wasn't attempting to convince you - as part of the XC team that would go against your self interest.  Let me put it another way.

Anon currency's value is being able to do transactions in said currency.  Only way to do a transaction is if everybody agrees on a currency (the only reason a currency works is because a doctor needs food from a farmer and a farmer needs services from a doctor.  And a currency allows them to exchange services but not at the same time because they "agree" on said currency)

XC has a market cap of less than 10% of the leading market cap anon coin.  (I own none of them).  This is what happens when you don't have consensus around a coin.  If I want to use it for an anonymous transaction it's worthless to me if we are talking much money.  If there are more than 5 people in the world who want to do a $5,000 transaction in one day.  Then XC is out of the question.

And yes - this is a direct result of consensus vs marketing.

Love how you come in and FUD the project while completely missing how the business case of XC is. Please continue so everyone can see how stupid you are Smiley

I am not "FUD" (Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt) anything.  I'm simply explaining why XC is useless when it comes to currency.  There is not enough volume to trade it on exchanges for a widely/wider accepted currency.  There is not enough of a community to turn it itself into a widely accepted currency (PoS vs PoW).  If my worldview is right which I'm fairly certain it is.  Then XC is only going to lose most of you money at the expense of the early adopters.

FUD is completely different than explaining why a currency idea / project will not work.
full member
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swat happens when you pick a PoS to stabilize price and make early adopters rich.  No community, no consensus = coin stagnates & dies (See NXT vs Litecoin which is a stupid clone)

Normally I would delete the comment but it's so daft I think it can stay. No community?! Do you mean something else maybe? This is page 1208.
It sounds like you trying to say that a coin can't be successful unless they "spread the wealth" - i.e. give some of it to you cheaply.
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
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However you weren't able to define terms clearly enough to persuade me of your view.

I really wasn't attempting to convince you - as part of the XC team that would go against your self interest.  Let me put it another way.

Anon currency's value is being able to do transactions in said currency.  Only way to do a transaction is if everybody agrees on a currency (the only reason a currency works is because a doctor needs food from a farmer and a farmer needs services from a doctor.  And a currency allows them to exchange services but not at the same time because they "agree" on said currency)

XC has a market cap of less than 10% of the leading market cap anon coin.  (I own none of them).  This is what happens when you don't have consensus around a coin.  If I want to use it for an anonymous transaction it's worthless to me if we are talking much money.  If there are more than 5 people in the world who want to do a $5,000 transaction in one day.  Then XC is out of the question.

And yes - this is a direct result of consensus vs marketing.

Love how you come in and FUD the project while completely missing how the business case of XC is. Please continue so everyone can see how stupid you are Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1256
Merit: 1009
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However you weren't able to define terms clearly enough to persuade me of your view.

I really wasn't attempting to convince you - as part of the XC team that would go against your self interest.  Let me put it another way.

Anon currency's value is being able to do transactions in said currency.  Only way to do a transaction is if everybody agrees on a currency (the only reason a currency works is because a doctor needs food from a farmer and a farmer needs services from a doctor.  And a currency allows them to exchange services but not at the same time because they "agree" on said currency)

XC has a market cap of less than 10% of the leading market cap anon coin.  (I own none of them).  This is what happens when you don't have consensus around a coin.  If I want to use it for an anonymous transaction it's worthless to me if we are talking much money.  If there are more than 5 people in the world who want to do a $5,000 transaction in one day.  Then XC is out of the question.

And yes - this is a direct result of consensus vs marketing.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.
Where can I find the rich list? Can you link it?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich
Thanks.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.
Where can I find the rich list? Can you link it?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

 Shocked

Top 10   1,692,039 XC   30.58 %
Top 100   4,056,464 XC   73.31 %
Top 1000   5,311,361 XC   95.99 %
All 5175   5,533,106 XC   100 %
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Thank you!

I am agonizing to see Teka UI Smiley...Having seen what he have done with the Forum I am sure it will get approved.

Is Trash Team doing the approval? as they are responsible for the logo and Branding if Im not mistaken

Yeah Teka's done some good work. Thrash will indeed sign it off from a brand perspective.


On this note, I'm going to sign off for the time being. It's my third wedding anniversary and my wife and I are heading out to dinner and a concert.



Happy Anniversary, Have a good one.

Cheers for all the hard work.  Smiley
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.
Where can I find the rich list? Can you link it?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.
Where can I find the rich list? Can you link it?
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Some strange show of my XC wallet - one stake keeps not confirmed over 2 days



Why this may happen?

It happens to me also. I think it is an Orphan Block Hence 0Xcs....but I tought you could find Orphans just in POW not in POS..maybe someone with more knowledge might help
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Thank you!

I am agonizing to see Teka UI Smiley...Having seen what he have done with the Forum I am sure it will get approved.

Is Trash Team doing the approval? as they are responsible for the logo and Branding if Im not mistaken

Yeah Teka's done some good work. Thrash will indeed sign it off from a brand perspective.


On this note, I'm going to sign off for the time being. It's my third wedding anniversary and my wife and I are heading out to dinner and a concert.



Enjoy your Anniversary Man!
full member
Activity: 235
Merit: 100
Some strange show of my XC wallet - one stake keeps not confirmed over 2 days



Why this may happen?
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Thank you!

I am agonizing to see Teka UI Smiley...Having seen what he have done with the Forum I am sure it will get approved.

Is Trash Team doing the approval? as they are responsible for the logo and Branding if Im not mistaken

Yeah Teka's done some good work. Thrash will indeed sign it off from a brand perspective.


On this note, I'm going to sign off for the time being. It's my third wedding anniversary and my wife and I are heading out to dinner and a concert.

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.

swat happens when you pick a PoS to stabilize price and make early adopters rich.  No community, no consensus = coin stagnates & dies (See NXT vs Litecoin which is a stupid clone)

I think I recall your ranting about consensus a while back. However you weren't able to define terms clearly enough to persuade me of your view. The discussion revolved around the difference between marketing (and a market discovering a coin) and consensus (and a community owning a coin). I think the reason for your lack of clarity might've been because you were punting the notion of "consensus" in order to "market" cryptonote or Monero or something. Slippery ground, that.
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.

swat happens when you pick a PoS to stabilize price and make early adopters rich.  No community, no consensus = coin stagnates & dies (See NXT vs Litecoin which is a stupid clone)

adoption will be spread by service of platform. XChat will to my understanding not be directly dependent on XCurrency. XChat will pay for their received service by providing the service of broadcasting the XNode network and thus strengthening it.

The Currency will come into play when features like QiCoin requires hosting or when you decide to send some anon cash to your buddy.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.

where can you see the distribution?
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Thank you!

I am agonizing to see Teka UI Smiley...Having seen what he have done with the Forum I am sure it will get approved.

Is Trash Team doing the approval? as they are responsible for the logo and Branding if Im not mistaken
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market



***The XC Daily Update***


- Dan is testing an update to Rev 2 which includes some features that will be included in the final Rev 2 release. The update may or may not be released publicly.

- Teka's UI work has been passed on to a specialist company to build XC's brand new UI. It'll be cross-platform.

- I'm preparing a press release - the first of a few - that'll introduce Rev 2's features to the world. So stay tuned for information on Rev 2, and quite possibly an update too.




Even if Teka's UI won't be used can we still see it?

I suppose that'll be up to him.

legendary
Activity: 1256
Merit: 1009
I love this coin.

Only one beef.
Distribution sucks! !!
The top 100 needs to sell off some coins to turn this pond into an ocean.

I am hoping for some price fluctuations soon to spread the wealth, because the only thing holding this coin back is the size of its community.

swat happens when you pick a PoS to stabilize price and make early adopters rich.  No community, no consensus = coin stagnates & dies (See NXT vs Litecoin which is a stupid clone)
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