Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1044. (Read 4670673 times)

Perhaps the best option is to have it un moderated and people can just add trolls to their ignore list.

Dunno, but one could always create an account to moderate and share that account.

Nice job on frontloading bias. lol

+1

I would very much like to see a well moderated dark vs monero thread, where all of the nay sayers from each thread could go instead of in the dark and monero threads. Can you set up a thread to have multiple moderators?

Its not in their interest to engage in any such honest dialogue.

This.  An XMR-DRK technical/economic/political comparison thread, moderated by a pair of competent and reasonable people, one from each of the advocacy communities, would probably be a very helpful way to clear the air, get the cards on the table, and serve the interests of those new to XMR and DRK, so that they can evaluate in an informed and reasoned manner how they would like to participate in or abstain from participation in one or both projects.

I particularly like the idea because I think it would have the effect of redirecting many naive persons from DRK to XMR, and thus save a lot of misery, but of course a genuous partisan of DRK would think precisely the opposite (erroneously).

Another poll!

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vote-doneann-the-altcoins-foundation-platform-version-10beta-released-1000833

GingerAle

Thank you. Got it now. 

Yes, essentially, to "hide who the real shooter is" - so that way the payment is untraceable. Three people signed it, but there's no way to know whose money it actually is. THere's some analogy / example out their with leaking secrets. The real world scenario is transactional privacy!

I imagine it as thus: you have a lockbox with your money in it. Your key can open it, but anyone watching would know "hey, ginger's taking money out of his lockbox". So, in order to prevent someone from seeing who's money it is, you set up the lockbox so that there are a lot of keyholes - say, 12. Now 12 keys have to be used to open the lockbox - but still only your key opens it. So anyone watching could only know that its one of the 12 keys that opens the lockbox.

"Well" you say "what if the observer sees me going back to the same lockbox?" But that is why stealth addresses are used, so each time you go to your lockbox, its like the lockbox is being painted a different color. So all it looks like to an observer is "well a bunch of keys are opening a lockbox".

And to further the privacy, each lockbox is for a different amount. So if you're sending 12.43 xmr, you could have a lockbox for the 10, the 2, the 0.4 and the 0.03.

I could be way off, but that works for me.

(edited to replace people with keys, because its not active - its passive)

Thanks but here we will have to agree to disagree. It is impossible for me to understand how anyone can trust DRK. The why of this has been discussed ad nauseam by people more competent than me so I won't reiterate.

It's the exact opposite of what a cryptocurrency should be. Economically, technically, philosophically.

But again, let's agree to disagree.

So what would be the point of multiple people signing the ring signed onto the ring signature?  Is it to hide who the real shooter is?  I'll look over the GetHub link and read more.  Mainly looking for a real world scenario that this feature might be used for.  

I want to start talking to people locally that have interest in alt coins (mainly Monero). I want to be able to explain the basics and the features this coin has. This is one of the last features of XMR at the moment I don't fully understand.

I think I'm all ass backwards on this.  sorry if i'm annoying  just trying to get it right in my pea brain

IOW, Monero is a distributed leaderless bottom-up effort with no absolute 'central command.'

This is hard for the DARSHers to understand, because their coin brand's parade of coin-like offerings is a top-down effort created by an incorporated foundation consisting of the requisite Money Guy, Tech Dude, and Shady Lawyer.

Thank you, David! Vitamins for my mind.

Regarding https://merkle.io: "our artificial intelligence will detect these terms" => /dev/null

Regarding DRK:
- I quoted two interesting posts
- I also agree with "[DRK's] failure is harmful to all of us."
- Also, fluffy's "domination post" and othe's "domination post" on DRK nicely complements my domination post on DRK. Basically: a government can easily take control of the DRK network without even making it visible (note that it can also control Bitcoin network or any other network - including Monero - if it really wants to, but it would be more expensive).

Regarding privacy and anonymity: we use "privacy" exclusively in our speeches. Anonymity =  drug dealers: Privacy = family values. Marketing recommendation: "privacy" and "anonymity", PR-wise.

Or if you prefer the minimalistic version currently in moneropedia:

https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0003.pdf

Ok can someone explain to me or point me to a link that explains ring signatures.  What do they do?  Why is it important.   I understand the API, the View Keys, and the Transaction ID's  just need some clarification on the ring signatures.

The total number of Cryptonic pure silver 2014 Moneroj will be limited to 108 coins, pure silver 2015 to 777 coins. By now 21 pure silver 2014 produced and at this moment 10 pure silver 2015 are in production.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10871594

Sorry for the crosspost, but I want to make sure that this reaches all the devs in the monero space:

We at XMR.TO are currently stabilizing our API to get it out of beta asap.
We hope that we can then progress with the integration of XMR.TO into other services (eg., wallets).

Developers, now is the time to make comments and suggestions! 

We better be ready to catch the money when BTC crumbles. The time is not far