Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1043. (Read 4670673 times)

Those people in the dark coin thread are crazy! Its like some sort of cult or something over there. They all have me blocked but I did nothing that could be construed as trolling. They think it was part of some sort of elaborate plan, that i was "laying spider webs" and that it was going to all climate in some sort of very clever troll trap.

It's actually really bad because I run something of a little business on bitcoin talk by selling my impeccable reputation and I cant have people ignoring me. In fact I was tip toeing around the whole time precisely because of this. But it's just apparently SO easy to offend their delicate sensitivities that i somehow managed to do it.

*edit* part of me wants to go over there and try to repair the damage i somehow caused but the smarter part of me knows that if i do ill make things worse.

Those people in the dark coin thread are crazy! Its like some sort of cult or something over there. They all have me blocked but I did nothing that could be construed as trolling. They think it was part of some sort of elaborate plan, that i was "laying spider webs" and that it was going to all climate in some sort of very clever troll trap.

It's actually really bad because I run something of a little business on bitcoin talk by selling my impeccable reputation and I cant have people ignoring me. In fact I was tip toeing around the whole time precisely because of this. But it's just apparently SO easy to offend their delicate sensitivities that i somehow managed to do it.

*edit* part of me wants to go over there and try to repair the damage i somehow caused but the smarter part of me knows that if i do ill make things worse.

Those people in the dark coin thread are crazy! Its like some sort of cult or something over there. They all have me blocked but I did nothing that could be construed as trolling. They think it was part of some sort of elaborate plan, that i was "laying spider webs" and that it was going to all climate in some sort of very clever troll trap.

It's actually really bad because I run something of a little business on bitcoin talk by selling my impeccable reputation and I cant have people ignoring me. In fact I was tip toeing around the whole time precisely because of this. But it's just apparently SO easy to offend their delicate sensitivities that i somehow managed to do it.

*edit* part of me wants to go over there and try to repair the damage i somehow caused but the smarter part of me knows that if i do ill make things worse.

I set this up just for the debate between XMR and DRK; if you want to move the discussion / debate from here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-vs-drk-1001642

I will only moderate and have no dogs in this fight.

Just a place to have respectful debate and/or Q & A.

so where is the code?  all i got is this and I had to find that myself:  https://github.com/iamsmooth/bitmonero/commits/master?author=iamsmooth

I'm confused, what are you bumping? smooth replied to your comment, you're bumping his reply?

Incidentally, the Monero Research Lab has been around for just under 8 months now. smooth has been an integral part of that, and has done everything from writing simulations to finding corner cases in theories. I did a quick grep of the Monero Research Lab IRC channel, and in those 8 months he has written 5 250 lines (of the 23 539 total lines written). Something to think about.

bump

Decided to scrap this one. It's too long and too dry, even my wife couldn't get through it. I tried editing it down, but it's irredeemable.

Yes, essentially, to "hide who the real shooter is" - so that way the payment is untraceable. Three people signed it, but there's no way to know whose money it actually is. THere's some analogy / example out their with leaking secrets. The real world scenario is transactional privacy!

I imagine it as thus: you have a lockbox with your money in it. Your key can open it, but anyone watching would know "hey, ginger's taking money out of his lockbox". So, in order to prevent someone from seeing who's money it is, you set up the lockbox so that there are a lot of keyholes - say, 12. Now 12 keys have to be used to open the lockbox - but still only your key opens it. So anyone watching could only know that its one of the 12 keys that opens the lockbox.

"Well" you say "what if the observer sees me going back to the same lockbox?" But that is why stealth addresses are used, so each time you go to your lockbox, its like the lockbox is being painted a different color. So all it looks like to an observer is "well a bunch of keys are opening a lockbox".

And to further the privacy, each lockbox is for a different amount. So if you're sending 12.43 xmr, you could have a lockbox for the 10, the 2, the 0.4 and the 0.03.

I could be way off, but that works for me.

(edited to replace people with keys, because its not active - its passive)

There definitely more than that. Off the top of my head I can think of several checkpoint updates, implementing code to verify checkpoints at startup, and merging a bug fix from BBR. None of that is there, so that's a bit strange. I'm not sure where they all went

If you are looking for lots of code though, you won't find it, that's not my primary role on the project.

To have a curated directory with the most important, must-have and must-know Monero links on one page is beneficial. Being able to quickly & easily find the Monero links & pages he searches for and by discovering other major ressources, a user didn't know before, is or can turn out to be very useful, during daily Monero-related work.

Because I often forget the Monero links I looked for myself, I build a small directory of the most important Monero links. I would like to share now:

http://xmr.biz/links.html

I know this is boring to long-time XMR community members. But this pages goal is to help everyone (esp. people new to the community) to save some time researching, looking up needed information or discovering central Monero ressources they didn't knew before.

---> You may like to share this link, with all the people you introduce to Monero, for example: colleague at work or new friends you meet on Tinder.






http://xmr.biz/links.html <- Please provide feedback. Thank you.

rhetoric question? Because you always participate with fluffy. 

nope, dont understand the joke. Hooray new thread. I've grown tired of that conversation.

now, back to basics. Where's the missive?   

nope, dont understand the joke.

Yes, essentially, to "hide who the real shooter is" - so that way the payment is untraceable. Three people signed it, but there's no way to know whose money it actually is. THere's some analogy / example out their with leaking secrets. The real world scenario is transactional privacy!

I imagine it as thus: you have a lockbox with your money in it. Your key can open it, but anyone watching would know "hey, ginger's taking money out of his lockbox". So, in order to prevent someone from seeing who's money it is, you set up the lockbox so that there are a lot of keyholes - say, 12. Now 12 keys have to be used to open the lockbox - but still only your key opens it. So anyone watching could only know that its one of the 12 keys that opens the lockbox.

"Well" you say "what if the observer sees me going back to the same lockbox?" But that is why stealth addresses are used, so each time you go to your lockbox, its like the lockbox is being painted a different color. So all it looks like to an observer is "well a bunch of keys are opening a lockbox".

And to further the privacy, each lockbox is for a different amount. So if you're sending 12.43 xmr, you could have a lockbox for the 10, the 2, the 0.4 and the 0.03.

I could be way off, but that works for me.

(edited to replace people with keys, because its not active - its passive)