[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1125.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on February 20, 2015, 07:35:16 AM

Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 07:32:29 AM

Got something against Estonia?

Omg no! Just .. imagine you have a castle and a guy comes to your door and tells "hey! i'm user38913 from the forums, can we go inside for a beer? ah, and a party?".

If I owned and you showed up in the middle of nowhere I would gladly give you a beer. You bring the women.

GingerAle

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on February 20, 2015, 07:38:47 AM

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Quote from: bytemuma on February 19, 2015, 01:49:19 PM

Quote from: nikos64 on February 19, 2015, 01:45:00 PM

Damn! TX Fee: 0.5 XMR on poloniex.

Can some dev talk to them to lower the fee?

WTF? A < $0.14 fee for a transaction? Are you only buying one? They have to make a profit from their service dude. They are being more than fair.

Actually I see 0.2 XMR fee and I find it quite big too. It was 0.1 for long time and I see no reason for increase.
When I do mine, I get less than 0.1 XMR / day.

They also get 0.2% per transaction, so I don't think that they are that poor. I start having a feeling that they actually have some reasons to want us (the small holders) keep the XMR in their exchange instead of our wallets...

well yes, generally, banks (or those mimicking some type of bank) want you to keep your money in their vaults, for whatever reason.

hence cryptocurrencies "be your own bank".

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< 0.14$ is reasonable in my mind for the forced mixing of 3 at POL. which increases every ones anonymity. And for the people who will say that they shouldn't be forced to make anonymous transactions if they don't want to all I can say is that Monero is a anonymous and private currency, it was always mean to be. There are hundreds of other coins which don't offer this feature set and transactions are free or the fee is smaller such as DOGE, etc. use those.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on February 20, 2015, 07:38:47 AM

Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 07:31:28 AM

Quote from: bytemuma on February 19, 2015, 01:49:19 PM

Quote from: nikos64 on February 19, 2015, 01:45:00 PM

Damn! TX Fee: 0.5 XMR on poloniex.

Can some dev talk to them to lower the fee?

WTF? A < $0.14 fee for a transaction? Are you only buying one? They have to make a profit from their service dude. They are being more than fair.

Actually I see 0.2 XMR fee and I find it quite big too. It was 0.1 for long time and I see no reason for increase.
When I do mine, I get less than 0.1 XMR / day.

They also get 0.2% per transaction, so I don't think that they are that poor. I start having a feeling that they actually have some reasons to want us (the small holders) keep the XMR in their exchange instead of our wallets...

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Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 07:31:28 AM

Quote from: bytemuma on February 19, 2015, 01:49:19 PM

Quote from: nikos64 on February 19, 2015, 01:45:00 PM

Damn! TX Fee: 0.5 XMR on poloniex.

Can some dev talk to them to lower the fee?

WTF? A < $0.14 fee for a transaction? Are you only buying one? They have to make a profit from their service dude. They are being more than fair.

Actually I see 0.2 XMR fee and I find it quite big too. It was 0.1 for long time and I see no reason for increase.
When I do mine, I get less than 0.1 XMR / day.

They also get 0.2% per transaction, so I don't think that they are that poor. I start having a feeling that they actually have some reasons to want us (the small holders) keep the XMR in their exchange instead of our wallets...

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Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 07:32:29 AM

Got something against Estonia?

Omg no! Just .. imagine you have a castle and a guy comes to your door and tells "hey! i'm user38913 from the forums, can we go inside for a beer? ah, and a party?".

coinits

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on February 20, 2015, 07:31:13 AM

Quote from: Miki on February 20, 2015, 07:27:38 AM

Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 06:46:05 AM

Quote from: jehst on February 11, 2015, 12:17:04 AM

Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it... So, where's the castle at ?

A google search for "bitcoin castle" will show you quite well where's that, just.. you may need an invitation to actually get in there Grin

Got something against Estonia?

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Quote from: bytemuma on February 19, 2015, 01:49:19 PM

Quote from: nikos64 on February 19, 2015, 01:45:00 PM

Damn! TX Fee: 0.5 XMR on poloniex.

Can some dev talk to them to lower the fee?

WTF? A < $0.14 fee for a transaction? Are you only buying one? They have to make a profit from their service dude. They are being more than fair.

NeuroticFish

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Quote from: Miki on February 20, 2015, 07:27:38 AM

Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 06:46:05 AM

Quote from: jehst on February 11, 2015, 12:17:04 AM

Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it... So, where's the castle at ?

A google search for "bitcoin castle" will show you quite well where's that, just.. you may need an invitation to actually get in there Grin

Miki

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Quote from: coinits on February 20, 2015, 06:46:05 AM

Quote from: jehst on February 11, 2015, 12:17:04 AM

Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

I'll be bringing a box of Cohiba torpedo's, been waiting for a special occasion to open it... So, where's the castle at ?

coinits

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Quote from: jehst on February 11, 2015, 12:17:04 AM

Monero's 1 year birthday is approaching on April 18, 2015. How do you guys want to celebrate?

Party at the castle.

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Quote from: jehst on February 19, 2015, 11:58:20 PM

I've gotten lucky quite a few times in this crypto-game. I try to remember that whenever I'm unlucky.

bitcoin wealth stolen from me: 80% of all i ever had... luckily the price has gone up 100% from my baseprice - so i didnt loose. but kinda frustrating.... biggest reason why i always have fear if i send fiat to an exchange and dont do it as regular as in the beginning.

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21 million. I want them all.

Quote from: Hueristic on February 19, 2015, 11:03:19 PM

Quote from: rfcdejong on February 19, 2015, 06:08:42 PM

Same, uptrend is making me feel good as well since my BTC is gone and i cannot accumulate any more, I might sell a tiny bit XMR on spikes and buy back cheaper.

I'm not trusting my XMR on any exchange. Even though Polo is my most trusted. Tongue

Recently, I was considering putting a bunch of XMR on BTER to establish another market with decent liquidity.

I also traded on mtgox when it was the only exchange.

I've gotten lucky quite a few times in this crypto-game. I try to remember that whenever I'm unlucky. Don't trust anyone.

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: rfcdejong on February 19, 2015, 06:08:42 PM

Same, uptrend is making me feel good as well since my BTC is gone and i cannot accumulate any more, I might sell a tiny bit XMR on spikes and buy back cheaper.

I'm not trusting my XMR on any exchange. Even though Polo is my most trusted. Tongue

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I just checked Poloniex and the withdrawal fee is listed as 0.2 XMR

smooth

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Quote from: MoneroMooo on February 19, 2015, 06:09:24 PM

Quote from: smooth on February 19, 2015, 05:59:34 PM

chainradar uses 1 and 2 for what simplwallet calls 0 and 1. I'm using the simplewallet terminology.

I thought mixin 0 was deemed a good thing to have, for transactions that one wants to be unambiguous in terms of inputs used. Was that wrong then, or is it just deemed not worth the drawbacks ?
How would non ambiguous txes be done then ? Supply the one time key to whoever you want to see it ?

You can supply the one time key or you can sign a message using a one time key. The former would then allow others to sign messages, which might or might not be desirable. There are other ways of doing auditing too. We'll lay all this out in greater detail in the future.

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Quote from: binaryFate on February 19, 2015, 06:08:36 PM

Before the long term solution explained by smooth is deployed, we could find a shorter term one. Currently the reason for people to choose mixin less than 3 is that it's cheaper. What if it was not? Fees in that case would be based on kb, but also on the fact that it's a little privacy cost to everyone.

We had that before with fixed fees, and people wanted variable to reduce fees on small transactions. Yes there could be a discount for higher mixing on the same size but let's be realistic about diminishing returns to adding too many short-term patches. Our plan for the most part is to focus on developing the best anonymity improvements for longer term.

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Quote from: smooth on February 19, 2015, 05:59:34 PM

chainradar uses 1 and 2 for what simplwallet calls 0 and 1. I'm using the simplewallet terminology.

I thought mixin 0 was deemed a good thing to have, for transactions that one wants to be unambiguous in terms of inputs used. Was that wrong then, or is it just deemed not worth the drawbacks ?
How would non ambiguous txes be done then ? Supply the one time key to whoever you want to see it ?

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Quote from: stslimited on February 18, 2015, 11:04:25 PM

Coming from someone that has way more Monero than the 20 btc necessary to drop the order book 50% and keep it there, you guys have no idea what you are talking about.

You guys collectively barely have enough bitcoin to buy Monero at firesale prices if I chose to do that, the auto dumping miners would simply hop in front of the remaining parts of my gigantic sell order at .0005btc and keep this downtrend going, while somebody makes an off hand comment about emission schedule

And lets not forget about the upside, anybody want to form a syndicate and get the price back up with a stabilizing bid? PM me

Its about 200k xmr to 0.0005. Feel free to dump at any Time.

Please dump, so i can buy at that price. Grin

noooo this uptrend makes me feel good Cheesy

Same, uptrend is making me feel good as well since my BTC is gone and i cannot accumulate any more, I might sell a tiny bit XMR on spikes and buy back cheaper.

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Still wild and free

Before the long term solution explained by smooth is deployed, we could find a shorter term one. Currently the reason for people to choose mixin less than 3 is that it's cheaper. What if it was not? Fees in that case would be based on kb, but also on the fact that it's a little privacy cost to everyone.

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What would be great is a "send btc using xmr.to" option in mymonero.

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