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legendary
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I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't easily find it.  When is the first block reward reduction for Monero and how much will it reduce by.  I'm guessing at the end of Q2 next year but I'm not sure how big the reduction will be.  I know that ~84% of all XMR will be hashed within four years or probably within three and half years from now.

There's no halving, like in traditional bitcoin and clones, but a constant exponential decrease in the block reward; there's a new, typically lower, reward every block.

Indeed jwinterm, below I will post some additional info on the emission schedule.

Emission schedule / daily number of coins in numbers can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8106443

Additional graphs here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7202538

Comment by smooth on the emission curve:

Keep in mind the chart shows, I think, the highest possible numbers.

The effect of any block penalty (reduction of reward when miners include more the the normal amount of transaction data) is to slow down the curve a bit. Since there have definitely been periods when the penalty applied (at least during spam attacks, but occasionally other times too), the curve is already somewhat slower than the base calculation.

If there is a period of rapid adoption, then there will also likely be rapid growth in transactions and many penalties, perhaps continuing for an extended period of time. So we may end up with a curve quite a bit slower than projected even under he original parameters (credit to ArticMine for this observation).

Quote from: TrueCryptonaire
Monero is a marathon - not 100 meter sprint.

Well said

I hope this is enough info for you.
legendary
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I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't easily find it.  When is the first block reward reduction for Monero and how much will it reduce by.  I'm guessing at the end of Q2 next year but I'm not sure how big the reduction will be.  I know that ~84% of all XMR will be hashed within four years or probably within three and half years from now.

There's no halving, like in traditional bitcoin and clones, but a constant exponential decrease in the block reward; there's a new, typically lower, reward every block.
legendary
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Money often costs too much.
If you just want to create a wallet (AKA monero account)  you just need to run simplewallet.

I thought I might dig this up:
 - Fluffypony's Step-by-step Cold Storage Account Creation Guide for the Paranoid Android -
My suggestion is as follows:

1. Take any machine you have lying around, even your normal workstation. You may find it easier to use an older computer that has no wifi or bluetooth if you're particularly paranoid.


I can has some paper, pencil & dice method to dice out some wordlist mnemonic?

Lol no, not a particularly paranoid android speaking ... just a former table top role player  Cheesy
legendary
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I'm sure this info is somewhere but I couldn't easily find it.  When is the first block reward reduction for Monero and how much will it reduce by.  I'm guessing at the end of Q2 next year but I'm not sure how big the reduction will be.  I know that ~84% of all XMR will be hashed within four years or probably within three and half years from now.
legendary
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Wallet working very well. Thank you very much, jwinterm, good work! Smiley Syncing very fast, change existing wallets, import it in lightWallet very easy! Very important - use only 1.3 Gb of RAM, none 4 Gb!
But  Wink what's the red rounds when right click on the wallet))


lol acha, thanks for the lovely artwork Cheesy

I'm not sure exactly what the little red dots are. I'm using kivy as the GUI library, which is designed for multitouch (phone and tablet) as well as desktop use, so I'm thinking it's related to some multitouch feature. I will try to read up and ask in #kivy on freenode if I can't figure it out.

edit: (from kivy.org)
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Using multitouch interaction with the mouse

New in version 1.3.0.

By default, the middle and right mouse buttons, as well as a combination of ctrl + left mouse button are used for multitouch emulation. If you want to use them for other purposes, you can disable this behavior by activating the “disable_multitouch” token:

[input]
Code:
mouse = mouse,disable_multitouch


so I'll try and remember to turn this off next time...
full member
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Dear devs, thank you for new Missive! It comes in bounds of schedule concept 'Monday Missives'. That fact you keep this schedule is very respective.

In this new missive I note the following point to be most interesting from my glance:

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I2PD: massive progress was made this week adding support for the su3 router update format (the previous .sud / .su2 format being deprecated), which is used to deliver updates to all routers on the i2p network, including: router update alerts, plugin update alerts, reseed data, and news feed items. Details on the su3 format can be found here: https://geti2p.net/en/docs/spec/updates

Monero + i2p = back to the stars!
Smiley
hero member
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A Monday missive that came in time, ho-ho-ho very good, very very good! Thanks for posting and nice to see the things are moving!



Now, 2 newbish questions:

1. If I want to create a new wallet, do I have to start and sync the daemon, or it is fine to just start simplewallet.exe on an offline computer?
Yeah, I want to start putting a couple monero somewhere safe, for when they'll get to 1000$ Wink

2. The concept of viewkey is not working yet, right? I didn't pay attention to all the news here, sorry about that.

Thanks!


If you just want to create a wallet (AKA monero account)  you just need to run simplewallet.

I thought I might dig this up:

 - Fluffypony's Step-by-step Cold Storage Account Creation Guide for the Paranoid Android -


My suggestion is as follows:

1. Take any machine you have lying around, even your normal workstation. You may find it easier to use an older computer that has no wifi or bluetooth if you're particularly paranoid.
2. Create a Linux or Windows bootable disk, and make sure you have the Monero binaries on the same disk or on a second disk (for Linux make sure you have also downloaded copies of the dependencies you will need, libboost1.55 and miniupnpc for instance).
3. Disconnect the network and/or Internet cables from your machine, physically remove the wifi card or switch the wifi/bluetooth off on a laptop if possible.
4. Boot into your bootable OS, install the dependencies if necessary.
5. Copy the Monero binaries to to a RAM disk (/dev/shm in Linux, Windows bootable ISOs normally have a Z: drive or something)
6. Don't run the Monero daemon. Instead, using the command line, use simplewallet to create a new wallet.
7. When prompted for a name, give it any name, it doesn't really matter.
8. When prompted for a password, type in like 50 - 100 random characters. Don't worry that you don't know the password, just make it LONG.
9. Write down (on paper) your 24 word mnemonic seed.
10. Write down (on your phone, on paper, on another computer, wherever you want) your address and view key.
11. Switch off the computer, remove the battery if there is one, and leave it physically off for a few hours.

There you go - the wallet you've created was created in RAM, and the digital files are now lost forever. If some magical hacker manages to somehow get the data, they will lack the long password to open it. If you need to receive payments, you have the address, and you have the view key if needed. If you need access to it, you have your 24 word seed, and you can now write out several copies of it so that you have an offsite copy (eg. a bank deposit box). Due to the nature of the key you can write it as part of something else - eg. write a fake love letter to your wife so that the 24 words on the left hand side are your key or whatever. Then write a bunch of extra love letters. That way, if your deposit box is ever discovered, it'll be disregarded as unimportant love letters.
legendary
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A Monday missive that came in time, ho-ho-ho very good, very very good! Thanks for posting and nice to see the things are moving!



Now, 2 newbish questions:

1. If I want to create a new wallet, do I have to start and sync the daemon, or it is fine to just start simplewallet.exe on an offline computer?
Yeah, I want to start putting a couple monero somewhere safe, for when they'll get to 1000$ Wink

2. The concept of viewkey is not working yet, right? I didn't pay attention to all the news here, sorry about that.

Thanks!
full member
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Merit: 100
Official Monero Forum Link

Quote from: forum.monero.cc
Monero Monday Missives

December 15th, 2014

Hello, and welcome to our twenty-first Monero Monday Missive!

Major Updates

1. We're aware of the 0.8.8.6 slow startup issues on some Windows environments (over an hour for the daemon to startup for some people). We believe we've identified the problem, and will be rolling out a test fix in the next couple of days, for inclusion in 0.8.8.7

2. There have been a number of patches merged over the past week to fix issues with simplewallet's new multi-language mnemonics

External Projects

MyMonero: due to a very broad DDoS attack at the data center in which MyMonero is hosted (not targeted at MyMonero) the service was offline on Sunday for a 12 hour stretch. We are putting some effort in place to ensure this does not happen again in future. New features added this past week: a "copy to clipboard" helper is now available on the right of your Monero address on your dashboard, as well as on the login key review screen and account details screen. In addition, clicking on a transaction in the dashboard or your transaction history screens will show additional details, such as the payment ID used.

ForkGuard: added MyMonero.com and MoneroClub.com

I2PD: massive progress was made this week adding support for the su3 router update format (the previous .sud / .su2 format being deprecated), which is used to deliver updates to all routers on the i2p network, including: router update alerts, plugin update alerts, reseed data, and news feed items. Details on the su3 format can be found here: https://geti2p.net/en/docs/spec/updates

Dev Diary

Account: still more fixes to the restore paths and multi-lang mnemonics, known issues with UTF-8 on Windows remain

Core: libunbound lookups moved to a thread in order to trap for failing / slow DNS lookups

Until next week!

updated by fluffypony
wow,catchy catchy
jr. member
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Official Monero Forum Link

Quote from: forum.monero.cc
Monero Monday Missives

December 15th, 2014

Hello, and welcome to our twenty-first Monero Monday Missive!

Major Updates

1. We're aware of the 0.8.8.6 slow startup issues on some Windows environments (over an hour for the daemon to startup for some people). We believe we've identified the problem, and will be rolling out a test fix in the next couple of days, for inclusion in 0.8.8.7

2. There have been a number of patches merged over the past week to fix issues with simplewallet's new multi-language mnemonics

External Projects

MyMonero: due to a very broad DDoS attack at the data center in which MyMonero is hosted (not targeted at MyMonero) the service was offline on Sunday for a 12 hour stretch. We are putting some effort in place to ensure this does not happen again in future. New features added this past week: a "copy to clipboard" helper is now available on the right of your Monero address on your dashboard, as well as on the login key review screen and account details screen. In addition, clicking on a transaction in the dashboard or your transaction history screens will show additional details, such as the payment ID used.

ForkGuard: added MyMonero.com and MoneroClub.com

I2PD: massive progress was made this week adding support for the su3 router update format (the previous .sud / .su2 format being deprecated), which is used to deliver updates to all routers on the i2p network, including: router update alerts, plugin update alerts, reseed data, and news feed items. Details on the su3 format can be found here: https://geti2p.net/en/docs/spec/updates

Dev Diary

Account: still more fixes to the restore paths and multi-lang mnemonics, known issues with UTF-8 on Windows remain

Core: libunbound lookups moved to a thread in order to trap for failing / slow DNS lookups

Until next week!

updated by fluffypony
jr. member
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Wallet working very well. Thank you very much, jwinterm, good work! Smiley Syncing very fast, change existing wallets, import it in lightWallet very easy! Very important - use only 1.3 Gb of RAM, none 4 Gb!
But  Wink what's the red rounds when right click on the wallet))
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
I finally moved the majority of my coins off of Polo and into my wallets.  I am now less of an idiot. Tongue

I then sent some coins to a MyMonero account that I am giving as a gift to somebody.  I sent them the story and info via snail mail.

The most sane thing to do. I've settled up a VirtualBox Win64 machine just for that. After MtGox-ed and Vircurex-ed (twice) I am very sensitive with the money/coins I have into the exchanges. Undecided
legendary
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I finally moved the majority of my coins off of Polo and into my wallets.  I am now less of an idiot. Tongue

I then sent some coins to a MyMonero account that I am giving as a gift to somebody.  I sent them the story and info via snail mail.
pa
hero member
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Running 8-8-6 on OSX 10.9.5 and just downloaded the latest blockchain.bin.  All files were installed to "downloads".  Having issues running bitmonerod from a terminal using blockchain.bin download.  Just keeps trying to synchronize the entire block chain from scratch.  Any advice?  Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure about mac, but since it's unixy, I'd guess you should put the blockchain.bin file into the .bitmonero folder, which would be a hidden folder in your home directory, at least that's where your default data directory is on linux.


Yes, put it in .bitmonerod in your home directory.
legendary
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Running 8-8-6 on OSX 10.9.5 and just downloaded the latest blockchain.bin.  All files were installed to "downloads".  Having issues running bitmonerod from a terminal using blockchain.bin download.  Just keeps trying to synchronize the entire block chain from scratch.  Any advice?  Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure about mac, but since it's unixy, I'd guess you should put the blockchain.bin file into the .bitmonero folder, which would be a hidden folder in your home directory, at least that's where your default data directory is on linux.

Alternatively, you can launch the daemon with the --data-dir flag and specify where you want to store the blockchain (and where it should look for it).
sr. member
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Running 8-8-6 on OSX 10.9.5 and just downloaded the latest blockchain.bin.  All files were installed to "downloads".  Having issues running bitmonerod from a terminal using blockchain.bin download.  Just keeps trying to synchronize the entire block chain from scratch.  Any advice?  Thanks in advance.
legendary
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Merit: 1116
You have russian characters in the path to your wallet file?

Does not work if I type russian words in path to .keys file. lightWallet automatically closed and then "don't see" .keys file. It's bad. I will not use.
Yea! Example - C:\Гpeбaныe пoляки\wallet.bin.keys. lightWallet does not work with this path. Sorry for russian words in post, it's required now.

Thanks for the feedback. It currently uses python 2.7, which afaik doesn't handle unicode strings by default, which I think is what this would fall under. I will see if I can correct this before I make the next release. I think one thing I may have forgotten to mention in the README.md is at the moment it automatically selects English as your seed language when you generate a wallet, as well; that is another thing I will change before another release.
jr. member
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You have russian characters in the path to your wallet file?

Does not work if I type russian words in path to .keys file. lightWallet automatically closed and then "don't see" .keys file. It's bad. I will not use.
Yea! Example - C:\Гpeбaныe пoляки\wallet.bin.keys. lightWallet does not work with this path. Sorry for russian words in post, it's required now.
legendary
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Still wild and free
I've just found one article mentioning Monero, good news is its being mined all around the place:

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There are “mining” machines scattered all around the place, all dedicated to producing Monero, a cryptocurrency based on the CryptoNote protocol rather than Bitcoin’s source code. Asked why Monero, Heartline replied: “It’s just where the money is right now.”

http://www.straight.com/life/777136/decentral-vancouver-incubates-bitcoin-community

Thanks, nice found. They know how to keep their place warm for free!
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
You have russian characters in the path to your wallet file?

Does not work if I type russian words in path to .keys file. lightWallet automatically closed and then "don't see" .keys file. It's bad. I will not use.
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