Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1313. (Read 4670643 times)

Pretty significant to be honest. Monero will have 18.4 million total/max coins. 14.72 million (80%) will be mined in the first 4 years. Currently, we're at 4.2 million in circulation.

The first 4 years, has heavy inflation. This gives investors an incentive to buy in at the end of that timeframe. And 4 years in crypto is a long time, with a significant chance that something better will come into the market.

Really nice to have that info, thank you.  How big of a problem does this pose to an investor?

Bit of a sore point that one, the emission curve is something we got stuck with from the original incarnation of Bitmonero, which had an autocratic solo dev who knew best.... It was then forked by the current team and so you can tell what the people preferred, but the emission curve stayed.

Great analysis there.

Why is the XMR emission curve so much steeper than with other PoW coins?  Is there a benefit to flattening out sooner?

fungibility is also a serious issue.

If you live in a corrupt state where the state is confiscating without serious reasoning maybe the citizens should get the possibility for something which is not that easy to link or to confiscate.

EXCELLENT points guys!  My faith in the concept of a non-transparent blockchain is restored.  But will Monero be the One?  It sounds like ZeroCash has a lot of people very interested but it hasn't been released yet.  Is Boolberry the next best thing in CryptoNote?  What does BBR have going for it that XMR doesn't?

zerocash has data size and compute time issues which make it unsuitable for many uses cases of xmr.  
it also has the trusted mint problem, last i heard.
for those reasons i doubt that it can attain sufficient liquidity to displace monero as the dominant provider of dark liquidity.

If the anon fad is over, then hype will have less impact on price.  Technical merit and community effort will play a larger role in determining the outcome.  Lows are always the best time to invest.  If the froth is gone, volatility declines and appreciation is more reliable.  The end of the bubble is always good for the high-quality enterprises.  Their fly-by-night competition is weeded out by the depressive lows.  Fewer fools throwing money around means less malinvestment.  I.e. investment goes to the most fit.  Because monero is the most fit, monero will benefit.

Let us recap the situation and the contenders:

ANC - Zerocoin has serious UX problems due to high computational complexity and data-intensive operation.  Also, it is moon math, and only time and extensive review within the cryptographic community will lend confidence.  A promising crypto in the zygote stage.
DRK - Snake oil, plus instamine, plus ponzi, large entrepreneurial community, late-term fetal development stage.
XMR - High-quality well-tested crypto, large development and entrepreneurial community, mid-term fetal development stage.

Nothing else has enough promise*liquidity to be a contender.  Of the three, XMR and ANC are respectable.  XMR is substantially ahead of ANC in terms of technical development, mind-share and liquidity.  DRK is substantially ahead of XMR in those terms, but it is technically unfit for most legitimate purposes.

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I live in the western world in one of the most sophisticated democracies with very high standards regarding rule of law etc. - we probably never need btc or xmr.

people who think that privacy doesn't matter are misinformed/ignorant and don't fully understand the whole spectrum of the issue.
"I've got nothing to hide" is a dangerous mantra that contradicts itself as people who use it are still walking with their clothes on and use doors in their house, keys etc.. Privacy is the very essence of capitalism!

It's just price discovery. Earn your place in the crypto world with hard results and price will eventually rebound.

That pretty much sums it up.  If you look at other coin threads you'll see the same talk about price.  However, this latest decline in XMR price has been pretty substantial compared to other coins.

(Almost) all the alts that aren't privacy centered have been taking a massive beating lately too, and Bitcoin too.

Crypto bear market.

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