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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 17. (Read 4670972 times)

legendary
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Monero ded, pack it up boiz Smiley
full member
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THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 28) IS OUT NOW! Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read. Like, share, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-28-307de4b1db15
Very good read and I enjoy all Monero Moon articles!
That hashrate pie is not looking good with minexmr pool having 40% of hashrate, so people should switch to other pools or go solo mininig.
sr. member
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Windows10 gui.
If prune, dont can connect.

Wallet dont can close.

If socks connect.

Dont can remote node.

newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Price is going to be a self-propeller for Monero's ecosystem. As it moves up the ranking, it becomes a visible asset for investment. However, I would like it to move up the ranks slowly even if it takes a few years, to make it organic and scalable.
full member
Activity: 142
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THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 28) IS OUT NOW! Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read. Like, share, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-28-307de4b1db15
sr. member
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Merit: 423
I keep getting a core dump error
Code:
a@galliumos:~/monero-x86_64-linux-gnu-v0.17.3.0$ ./monerod --prune-blockchain
2022-01-19 22:25:45.835 I Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.3.0-release)
2022-01-19 22:25:45.835 I Initializing cryptonote protocol...
2022-01-19 22:25:45.835 I Cryptonote protocol initialized OK
2022-01-19 22:25:45.838 I Initializing core...
2022-01-19 22:25:45.839 I Loading blockchain from folder /home/a/.bitmonero/lmdb ...
Bus error (core dumped)
a@galliumos:~/monero-x86_64-linux-gnu-v0.17.3.0$
The error persists even after deleting and reinstalling monerod.
Thought I'd try the solution shown here
https://blog.opstree.com/2019/04/02/resolving-segmentation-fault-core-dumped-in-ubuntu/
but in step 1 it shows this in a code box:
Code:
sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock and restart your system h.cdccdc
which obviously isn't correct.  The last bit about restarting isn't part of the command.  And what am I supposed to do with "h.cdccdc"  
If I just jump in and run these commands will it help or is this going to bollix up the system even more than it is now?


legendary
Activity: 3766
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
IMHO, NFTs are just another hype that comes and goes. People do all kinds of things that are not understandable, all the time.
Can you please elaborate on how exactly the current hype nudges people towards Monero, and not some other crypto or technology?

At lease SOME people will consider what "fungibility" is because of this. 

The whole way NFTs work is we are creating something that is identifyably unique.  This bored ape is provably different than THAT retarded frog.  And only one person can own either one.

Non-fungibility in a nutshell is the idea that each unit is unique and discernibly different than the other.  Then, of course, humans begin to assign values to each of these unique units.  And some will be worth more than others because of the magic of markets.

Non-Fungible money does not work well.  And as a generic store of value there are great arguments to be made for both something like an NFT (think rare art), or like an ounce of silver, with simply the mark of the company that cast the bar or round.  In the latter case the fact it is from "Sunshine Mining" does not make the silver more valuable really, but generally trustworthy in that we know that mint has a history of being fair.  An ounce of silver is MOSTLY fungible.  We might assign a premium to one mint or another, and of course we can go all the over to non fungibility with RARE coins.

NFTs are more like collectible art.  They are basically the mathematically abstracted version of that.  A computer science and math based simulation of a collectable thing... art, a watch, a car... whatever.  Do not get lost for now in arguing whether or not this really has any meaning or value.

Bitcoin is sort of like Gold or Silver, I think.  Most of the value of a satoshi is based on the same minimum structure that all others share.  But there are circumstances where Bitcoins fungibility can be challenged, similar to a minted silver round.  If I could have 1 of the 50 bitcoin mined in Block 2, I would think I should be able to sell THAT BTC for WAY MORE than 43k.  In fact I could imagine someone paying MILLIONS to own that.  Likewise Bitcoin directly associated with a crime might be considered worth less.

Let's say we take that thought experiment about the Block 2 coin a ltitle farther.  Let's say I actually discovered Satoshi!  And he agreed with me to sell me exactly ONE of the 50 BTC sitting in block 2's coinbase.  And futher lets assume that I am the only one who knows who Satoshi is, and no one else did.  Well, after we did our deal, then Satoshi would sign a transaction with the private key corresponding with the coinbase address of block two and send me that 1 BTC I had bought from him.

What would happen?  Yes.  The entire Bitcoin market would almost immediately crash!  Why?  because it would be public knowledge that the owner of the private keys to block 2 just moved one of the coins.  And was can also assume THAT person owns at least hundreds of thousands of Bitcoin, and just showed the world he was in a selling mood.

All because Bitcoins, are to a certain extent, non funfgible.

Monero on the other hand?  Well  I might just own one of the first Monero ever mined.  But I do not know, and neither does anyone else without a large coordinated effort with various view keys.  Practically impossible. 

All because Monero has this property that is just about unique to only it.  (and yes it's clones etc... but that is another discussion as to why XMR wins that battle too).

NFTs have opened peoples eyes to fungibility.  Right now they are all distracted with pretending one retarded frog is worth more than another.

But eventually many of them will begin to understand the amazing value of a digital asset that CANNOT be distinguished from equal units of it's kind.

Monero arguably takes digital fungibility to the mathematical extreme.  Unlike Bitcoin it pretty much mathematically PERFECTS the aspect of fungibility.  And THIS property actually has GREAT VALUE. Eventually some folks will stop being interested in apes and start being interested in something that is fully fungible.

That is what I was saying...  the long version. Wink
Mek
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mtc.mekweb.eu - mega transistor clock
IMHO, NFTs are just another hype that comes and goes. People do all kinds of things that are not understandable, all the time.
Can you please elaborate on how exactly the current hype nudges people towards Monero, and not some other crypto or technology?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
Anyone else ever think about the fact that after everyone gets over "NFTs"? they will be both well inoculated against scams AND understanding the definition of a word (fungible) that took us a long time to really understand.

Basically the universe has nudged EVERYONE towards Monero.
newbie
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Hey guys, I don't understand what is the problem?? a couple of months ago, the graphical monero wallet daemon stopped working, now when I install a new version of the wallet, the daemon still does not start. Wallet Featcher is working properly
full member
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newbie
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legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Don't quite get the value.  I am not a Cake wallet user anyway, but why not just use the one that has bitcoin in it too?  Is this the Monero Maximalist offering?

Its the monero.com domain finally being used for a onboard of the moron masses to a easy to use wallet, simple as that.

Eeeh.  OK.  That works! Wink  I lost site of the masses for a sec.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Don't quite get the value.  I am not a Cake wallet user anyway, but why not just use the one that has bitcoin in it too?  Is this the Monero Maximalist offering?

Its the monero.com domain finally being used for a onboard of the moron masses to a easy to use wallet, simple as that.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

Don't quite get the value.  I am not a Cake wallet user anyway, but why not just use the one that has bitcoin in it too?  Is this the Monero Maximalist offering?
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
full member
Activity: 142
Merit: 130
THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 26) IS OUT NOW! Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read. Like, share, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://medium.com/themoneromoon/the-monero-moon-issue-26-37c1c76bafe8
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
Am I the last to notice that Session (the messaging app) is using Monero's seed word scheme?
Nothing new about this because it is using monero fork and those nodes are used for their app but I am not interested in their coin.
Who knows what happens with this app when there are nobody running their nodes except maybe developers.
I don't think doing this with Monero nodes will work with new fork of Signal.

https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/vd-molly-payments-stage1.html

https://molly.im/
full member
Activity: 435
Merit: 125
Am I the last to notice that Session (the messaging app) is using Monero's seed word scheme?
Nothing new about this because it is using monero fork and those nodes are used for their app but I am not interested in their coin.
Who knows what happens with this app when there are nobody running their nodes except maybe developers.
I don't think doing this with Monero nodes will work with new fork of Signal.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 5146
Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
Am I the last to notice that Session (the messaging app) is using Monero's seed word scheme?

In other words, the seed words Session gives you?  You can use the same words and make a MyMonero wallet.  Interestingly this is a non standard Monero seed.  The new 14 word seeds in Feather are actually better in a sense as they can produce a 25 word equivalent.

But anyway...  Interesting.

Wanna talk to me?? : ***REMOVED AS I WILL NOT USE A PROJECT BASED ON A PREMINE SHITFORK***

This is an address I produced with my 13 word Session seed:
86JkeePguyfS3epmVqnjjd6STjcdod1GQFxqbEbNKy4vF9b82RPJFbxgWHQMEx4BMTZjXUJppbSWJBv sbgKd4ojwQoH28WB  (I'll never use that either... don't send it anything lol)

I am wondering if the devs plan to add monero?  It seems very unlikely they would use Monero's seed word code just cuz.  I am going to look at the repo and see if I can figure it out.

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Edit... ahh too bad.  Yeah they are using a cryptonote shitcoin that has a giant pre-mine as well as being POS.  OXEN.

Oh well...  Uninstalling this garbage from my phone.

Hopefully Molly ends up doing it right.  I like that it's a Signal compatible fork.
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