[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1843.

coine_smithe

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Quote from: tacotime on June 11, 2014, 09:07:24 AM

Quote from: coine_smithe on June 11, 2014, 08:57:09 AM

Actually, that's a good idea. Don't solve the dust problem for the pools and get all the devs together and suddenly come out with a solution for p2pool. Boom p2pool is the only dust free pool. Then solve it for other pools. p2pool is the only known way to solve the centralization problem right now. If you guys did that I think you'd become a threat to Bitcoin over night, and make a shitload of money in the process.

The P2Pool codebase is a nightmare and needs to be totally refactored. Additionally, verification of chains is extremely difficult due to the slowness of our hashing algorithm. I doubt it will be possible for a P2Pool implementation to come out in the near future (though I'd welcome it).

The dust issue can be solved for pools simply by sending amounts denominated to 0.1 and nothing less, zone177x is working on it.

Interesting, thanks for replying.

tacotime

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Quote from: trip96 on June 11, 2014, 09:23:40 AM

Hey all! I follow this thread regularly and mine Monero as well. I will have this dust problem soon when I transfer some to another wallet. NOW, I have a question for you guys.

The dust problem is because of so many smaller transactions adding up to send a larger problem correct?

SO, can I avoid this dust problem by buying a larger amount of Monero thereby creating a large incoming transaction and then sending the amounts through?

Any thoughts on this? I am going to be mining at a smaller pool as well to solve this issue.

No. You can eliminate the dust simply by sending a series of tx to a new wallet to amalgamate it, though.

trip96

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Hey all! I follow this thread regularly and mine Monero as well. I will have this dust problem soon when I transfer some to another wallet. NOW, I have a question for you guys.

The dust problem is because of so many smaller transactions adding up to send a larger problem correct?

SO, can I avoid this dust problem by buying a larger amount of Monero thereby creating a large incoming transaction and then sending the amounts through?

Any thoughts on this? I am going to be mining at a smaller pool as well to solve this issue.

TTM

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Quote from: machasm on June 11, 2014, 09:11:44 AM

Can anyone help me out?
when checking my balance i see
balance 30 unlocked 4.889
how do i unlock the other XMR to transfer?
using simplewallet and bitmonerod
thanks.

i guess those locked was recently transfered to your wallet and it need time for confirmation. Just wait few minutes and it will be unlocked.

HAve you tried "refresh" command on your wallet.

airtreb

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i think only moneropool.com has payment issue, look at their pool blocks status they stops paying more than 9 hours ago, poor miners at that pool Sad

machasm

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Can anyone help me out?
when checking my balance i see
balance 30 unlocked 4.889
how do i unlock the other XMR to transfer?
using simplewallet and bitmonerod
thanks.

tacotime

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Quote from: coine_smithe on June 11, 2014, 08:57:09 AM

Actually, that's a good idea. Don't solve the dust problem for the pools and get all the devs together and suddenly come out with a solution for p2pool. Boom p2pool is the only dust free pool. Then solve it for other pools. p2pool is the only known way to solve the centralization problem right now. If you guys did that I think you'd become a threat to Bitcoin over night, and make a shitload of money in the process.

The P2Pool codebase is a nightmare and needs to be totally refactored. Additionally, verification of chains is extremely difficult due to the slowness of our hashing algorithm. I doubt it will be possible for a P2Pool implementation to come out in the near future (though I'd welcome it).

The dust issue can be solved for pools simply by sending amounts denominated to 0.1 and nothing less, zone177x is working on it.

coine_smithe

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Quote from: myagui on June 11, 2014, 08:50:36 AM

Quote from: binaryFate on June 11, 2014, 08:45:55 AM

Exactly my thoughts. It is easier to get as many people as possible on a p2pool boat early, and it would be a big plus for XMR on the long run if it becomes part of the "community culture".
One could also set up something like http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate to make it more profitable than any other pool, assuming people donate enough. Which I'm sure they'd do because as you said the community here seems extremely passionate.

If mining proceeds are "dusty" now, imagine with a P2Pool type arrangement.
This will require some deep thinking from the smartypants here Wink

, and will probably need to have the dust problem addressed with current pool code 1st.

(No, I do not want dust in my pizza ffs!)
~ Myagui

Actually, that's a good idea. Don't solve the dust problem for the pools and get all the devs together and suddenly come out with a solution for p2pool. Boom p2pool is the only dust free pool. Then solve it for other pools. p2pool is the only known way to solve the centralization problem right now. If you guys did that I think you'd become a threat to Bitcoin over night, and make a shitload of money in the process.

tacotime

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Quote from: florida.haunted on June 11, 2014, 06:06:17 AM

Hi, monero developers (if you do periodically read this thread)!

I have seen monero sources - their code style seems to be more clear than even bitcoin one

One question intrigues me: What elliptic curve criptography implementation do you use? Have you gotten it from another source?
Or did you completely write it from scratch?

-------

P.s. 'Contact' division in the official site http://monero.cc does not work - I can not send a message (replies "405 Not Allowed").

P.p.s. Do you need free class 'A' certificates from globalsign as an open source project?

https://www.globalsign.com/ssl/ssl-open-source/

EdDSA, see the ByteCoin whitepaper. We are using a reference implementation.

See here for the advantages this has against Bitcoin's implementation: http://blog.cr.yp.to/20140323-ecdsa.html

myagui

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Quote from: binaryFate on June 11, 2014, 08:45:55 AM

Exactly my thoughts. It is easier to get as many people as possible on a p2pool boat early, and it would be a big plus for XMR on the long run if it becomes part of the "community culture".
One could also set up something like http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate to make it more profitable than any other pool, assuming people donate enough. Which I'm sure they'd do because as you said the community here seems extremely passionate.

If mining proceeds are "dusty" now, imagine with a P2Pool type arrangement.
This will require some deep thinking from the smartypants here Wink

, and will probably need to have the dust problem addressed with current pool code 1st.

(No, I do not want dust in my pizza ffs!)
~ Myagui

binaryFate

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Still wild and free

Quote from: coine_smithe on June 11, 2014, 08:40:07 AM

Quote from: binaryFate on June 11, 2014, 08:33:57 AM

Is there anyone working towards a cryptonote version of p2pool?

It seems to me this community is pretty tight knit with a lot of passionate people. Maybe it would be best to nip this problem in the bud now and get everyone onto p2pool and have it be the biggest pool. Maybe even try to have it get over 50% of the hashrate. If you guys did that I think that would be a game changer.

Exactly my thoughts. It is easier to get as many people as possible on a p2pool boat early, and it would be a big plus for XMR on the long run if it becomes part of the "community culture".
One could also set up something like http://blisterpool.com/p2pdonate to make it more profitable than any other pool, assuming people donate enough. Which I'm sure they'd do because as you said the community here seems extremely passionate.

coine_smithe

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Quote from: dreamspark on June 11, 2014, 08:37:01 AM

Quote from: coine_smithe on June 11, 2014, 08:30:36 AM

With ghash.io now consistently controlling close to 50% of the Bitcoin hashrate, I'm wondering if Cryptonote has basically the same vulnerability. I'm unfamiliar with how this mining protocol works. It seems to me if Cryptonote had any strength in this regard whatsoever it would be a gigantic advantage for Cryptonote. Thanks to whoever replies.

Cryptonote is a protocol and the 50% issue is not a protocol issue so as such is vulnerable to the same pooled resources issues.

That's too bad.

Quote from: binaryFate on June 11, 2014, 08:33:57 AM

Is there anyone working towards a cryptonote version of p2pool?

It seems to me this community is pretty tight knit with a lot of passionate people. Maybe it would be best to nip this problem in the bud now and get everyone onto p2pool and have it be the biggest pool. Maybe even try to have it get over 50% of the hashrate. If you guys did that I think that would be a game changer.

dreamspark

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Quote from: coine_smithe on June 11, 2014, 08:30:36 AM

With ghash.io now consistently controlling close to 50% of the Bitcoin hashrate, I'm wondering if Cryptonote has basically the same vulnerability. I'm unfamiliar with how this mining protocol works. It seems to me if Cryptonote had any strength in this regard whatsoever it would be a gigantic advantage for Cryptonote. Thanks to whoever replies.

Cryptonote is a protocol and the 50% issue is not a protocol issue so as such is vulnerable to the same pooled resources issues.

binaryFate

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Still wild and free

Is there anyone working towards a cryptonote version of p2pool?

coine_smithe

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With ghash.io now consistently controlling close to 50% of the Bitcoin hashrate, I'm wondering if Cryptonote has basically the same vulnerability. I'm unfamiliar with how this mining protocol works. It seems to me if Cryptonote had any strength in this regard whatsoever it would be a gigantic advantage for Cryptonote. Thanks to whoever replies.

Fredericolitch

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Quote from: smooth on June 11, 2014, 06:30:02 AM

Quote from: Fredericolitch on June 11, 2014, 06:18:00 AM

Quote from: dreamspark on June 11, 2014, 06:11:35 AM

Quote from: Fredericolitch on June 11, 2014, 06:06:46 AM

I downloaded the blockchain, putted it in the bitmonero folder, launched bitmonerod, still cant connect and look at my balance "daemon is too busy"

okay so after you have put bitmonero blockchain in %appdata%/bitmonero and have launched simple wallet and bitmonerod, type set_log 1 in the bitmonerod window. I imagine this will show you blocks still coming in, once that stops you should have a green message that says SYNCHRONIZED OK. That means the blockchain has finished downloading and then you can type refresh in the wallet.

daemon is busy means its still downloading the blockchain.

Ty for the fast answer

I did what u said, after "set_log 1" in bitmonerod window, got errors msg, "failed to handshake..."

It seems to try to connect to some nodes to update blockchain without success

Do you have the latest version?

Upadated and it seems to work

Ty for the help

darkota

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The devs need to make it mandotory for dumbass pools to stop paying out micro/dust payments.

trankil

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Quote from: smooth on June 11, 2014, 03:06:06 AM

Your transaction is still a bit over 2x too large. Try something like 0.5 MRO

You can avoid this happening by mining on smaller pool.

Quote from: trankil on June 11, 2014, 02:36:30 AM

what is the limit in amount ,? Huh

look

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[wallet 47QfFp]: transfer 0 myadress 2.041 myID
Error: transaction d2c3> is too big. Transaction size: 61901 bytes, transaction size limit: 24400 b
ytes

i really dont understand why i small amount is refuse too

so we can imagine that we can have a wallet and we can't transfer any coin because the transaction size is come so big than any minimal transfert is refuse???

its a very bad thing for this coin

because, all pool i can choose have big hasrate so my transaction limit will never decrease...

dreamspark

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Quote from: airtreb on June 11, 2014, 08:12:27 AM

Quote from: qiufeng on June 11, 2014, 07:59:52 AM

moneropool.com stop payment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just leave that pool, it not happen once it happens many times already, ABANDON THAT POOL

A bit extreme, has it happened and nobody got paid? no ? Exactly, you'll get your payments, jeeez.

airtreb

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Quote from: qiufeng on June 11, 2014, 07:59:52 AM

moneropool.com stop payment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just leave that pool, it not happen once it happens many times already, ABANDON THAT POOL

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