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legendary
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What would people say if the emission curve was changed?

So we never change the number of total eventual coins, but the emission is tweaked slightly?

For example, if Monero had two minute blocks instead of one minutes blocks, but kept the reward the same, so that we essentially get half the release per year?

This would likely be accused of being an instamine (i.e. giving the people involved in the first month twice the number of coins, then shutting the door on everyone else).

We tried to propose some other ways of making this change early on, and it came reasonably close to happening, but it is much harder to do now.

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I don't think  you can rule out that changes may
Because MRO has first mover advantage and a bigger development team we should be leading volume, hashpower and price by far, yet QCN is catching on (Has about 30% of our volume, price and hashpower) just because they do not have to endure 2.5% inflation per day.

QCN has a high inflation rate per day as well, in fact it might be higher. This is more a function of the age of the coin than anything else, and will drop rapidly over time. So as I say with respect to solo mining, just be patient and it will work out. Seeking instant gratification rarely ends well.



legendary
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I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.

No, i'm against the idea of reducing emission.

There is no way QCN could take over MRO. QCN dev is a scumbag who tried to steal Monero brand, he made an ANN about relaunching Monero, of course people against him and he had to delete that thread. This is Google cache of that thread:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7skSDxQ_yX0J:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D599580.0%3Ball+&cd=3&ct=clnk

QCN can never go big with that dev, MRO is leading the development of all CryptoNote coin.

Oh wow I never saw that before.

Anyway, I'm guessing that within reason it doesn't matter that much and other factors are more important.

I am hoping that is the case.

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.

Nobody really knows what the "right" emission curve should be or if it even matters that much. Monero certainly doesn't have a crazy dumb emission curve like some shitcoins that nevertheless gained some popularity but will remain nameless. I thought it should be a bit slower, but not too much slower. Possibly QCN might be too slow. It seems good now but with the low base, but the inflation rate will stay very high for a very long time.

Anyway, I'm guessing that within reason it doesn't matter that much and other factors are more important.


hero member
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I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.

QCN cant go anywhere without the MRO devs.

And the community that supports the coin is weak, the majority interested are in it for the money. Most of the posts on the thread are questions on how to open the wallet, open the deamon, and Minergate balance
TTM
full member
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I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.

No, i'm against the idea of reducing emission.

There is no way QCN could take over MRO. QCN dev is a scumbag who tried to steal Monero brand, he made an ANN about relaunching Monero, of course people against him and he had to delete that thread. This is Google cache of that thread:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:7skSDxQ_yX0J:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D599580.0%3Ball+&cd=3&ct=clnk

QCN can never go big with that dev, MRO is leading the development of all CryptoNote coin.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.

Just a question here, I'm just a user and have no association with the developers at all.

What would people say if the emission curve was changed?

So we never change the number of total eventual coins, but the emission is tweaked slightly?

For example, if Monero had two minute blocks instead of one minutes blocks, but kept the reward the same, so that we essentially get half the release per year?

So something like 3,000,000 coins in the first year instead of 6,000,000?

Not that the developers will change it, I just wanted to know what people thought for myself. How many against that idea and how many for?

Because MRO has first mover advantage and a bigger development team we should be leading volume, hashpower and price by far, yet QCN is catching on (Has about 30% of our volume, price and hashpower) just because they do not have to endure 2.5% inflation per day.

Again, I just wanted to see what people thought about that, not that it can be changed anyway.
sr. member
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Who cares?
I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.

QCN cant go anywhere without the MRO devs.
newbie
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I agree that Monero has a very steep emission curve. I think this is the only weakness of Monero and is the only chance another coin (like QCN) might overtake it.
Otherwise I think Monero is doing everything right and has the best community / developer team of all cryptonote currencies.
legendary
Activity: 1320
Merit: 1007
I wonder if the dev/tacotime would consider lowering the coin emission rate?

XC has sharply reduced the number of coins from 33 million to 6 million. DRK had coin supply changes.

Seems with anon coins, it's the tech that's most important, people don't care much about premines, instamines, coin supply changes.

I for one would be pretty happy with the same amount of coins being produced, but over a longer time scale. So no-one loses out on gaining MRO in the future but the amount mined per day is reduced. There's been a good few weeks mining at the current state as well. Obviously this benefits current holders, what do you guys think?

I agree. We should not have a surplus, slow and steady inflation is better.
legendary
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I wonder if the dev/tacotime would consider lowering the coin emission rate?

XC has sharply reduced the number of coins from 33 million to 6 million. DRK had coin supply changes.

Seems with anon coins, it's the tech that's most important, people don't care much about premines, instamines, coin supply changes.

I for one would be pretty happy with the same amount of coins being produced, but over a longer time scale. So no-one loses out on gaining MRO in the future but the amount mined per day is reduced. There's been a good few weeks mining at the current state as well. Obviously this benefits current holders, what do you guys think?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Who cares?
How do you get Moneros out of https://cryptonote.exchange.to/ if there is no Payment ID option on whitdrawal and the other exchanges require it??

You have to withdraw to your wallet first, then to another exchange.
legendary
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How do you get Moneros out of https://cryptonote.exchange.to/ if there is no Payment ID option on whitdrawal and the other exchanges require it??
legendary
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Merit: 1000

Ohhhh, when running bitmonerod...
Lot's of RED ERROR messages for about 40 minutes from the ABSTRACT_SERVER.
TTM
full member
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Whats the difference between MRO/Monero and BMR/BitMonero?

They seem to have different websites, and different abreviations

BitMonero is just the old name of Monero. Same coin, same blockchain, same dev team.
legendary
Activity: 1320
Merit: 1007
Whats the difference between MRO/Monero and BMR/BitMonero?

They seem to have different websites, and different abreviations
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
guys does anyone know when we will get a gui wallet

You can follow Bitkoot's progress on a .NET GUI wrapper here (Windows only):
https://github.com/BitKoot/CryptoNoteWallet

You can follow jwinterm's progress on a kivy GUI wrapper here (Windows, and probably Linux as well):
https://github.com/jwinterm/cryptonoteRPCwalletGUI

You can follow Neozaru's progress on a cross-platform Qt GUI wallet here:
https://github.com/Neozaru/bitmonero-qt

We also have another person working on a different Qt GUI implementation, but it's not public yet.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
A long lusted update: the fastest optimization of hash rate up to date. Available at http://bitmonero.org

These are changes merged from QuazarCoin, which themselves were merged from Monero (Noodle deserves credit). And yes, it's probably still slower than Wolf's cpuminer modifications.
hero member
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guys does anyone know when we will get a gui wallet

I do hope this takes a very very long time. I like it the way it is, its simple computing at its finest
hero member
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guys does anyone know when we will get a gui wallet
full member
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A long lusted update: the fastest optimization of hash rate up to date. Available at http://bitmonero.org
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