Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1962. (Read 4671660 times)
By the way,the 32bit binaries are not working. I tried both 15/5 and 20/5 versions
I hope Darksend Masternode investors did their homework on Ring Signature technology. When coins already exist (Monero) that are more anonymous than Darkcoin/Darksend without requiring centralized nodes only accessible to those rich enough to afford the arbitrary amount, it stands to topple your whole system.
Monero is like a decentralized Darkcoin if you think about it.
Monero is like a decentralized Darkcoin if you think about it.
Darksend/Masternodes are a brilliant Idea by Evan. They give incentive to host nodes to uphold the network And allow anonymous transactions...Basically, you get paid to help uphold the Darkcoin network and have anonymous transactions at the same time, unlike Bitcoin and such where you get nothing in return.
Evan has also perfected Masternodes to where they're as anonymous as Ring Signatures.
And he's not done.
He's going to implement Both Ring Signatures and I2P ontop Masternodes.
Monero and other Bytecoin clones don't stand a chance against Darkcoin practically...
No they are creating a 2 class environment - people who have the cash to run a node and the others who arent. Not to mention most of them are all hosted at amazon, do and ovh anyway: http://drk.poolhash.org/masternode.html - so much for decentralization.
So great, you get paid for providing anonymity whereas anonymity is free here and standart in all cryptonote based coins.
Masternodes can never be as anonymous as ringsingatures - its somehow a fail by design.
And why does he want to implement ring singatures than if your masternode are so perfect? (he already said hes not doing it btw).
You can easily run monero with i2p and tor support, for tor just tunnel it through tsocks on linux or proxifier on windows or run it into a VM like whonix, same applies to i2p...
Have fun bagholding your closed source darkcoins but stop annoying us here with your technical nonsense.
I hope Darksend Masternode investors did their homework on Ring Signature technology. When coins already exist (Monero) that are more anonymous than Darkcoin/Darksend without requiring centralized nodes only accessible to those rich enough to afford the arbitrary amount, it stands to topple your whole system.
Monero is like a decentralized Darkcoin if you think about it.
Monero is like a decentralized Darkcoin if you think about it.
Darksend/Masternodes are a brilliant Idea by Evan. They give incentive to host nodes to uphold the network And allow anonymous transactions...Basically, you get paid to help uphold the Darkcoin network and have anonymous transactions at the same time, unlike Bitcoin and such where you get nothing in return.
Evan has also perfected Masternodes to where they're as anonymous as Ring Signatures.
And he's not done.
He's going to implement Both Ring Signatures and I2P ontop Masternodes.
Monero and other Bytecoin clones don't stand a chance against Darkcoin practically...
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Port: 3333
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Description: Low end CPUs
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Thanks guys!!
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Lets hear it again:
Thus on balance I prefer CN, but I like to see it altered to use a quantum computer resistant algorithm. And then we need to add IP address obfuscation as well that is superior to Tor and I2P.
Thus on balance I prefer CN, but I like to see it altered to use a quantum computer resistant algorithm. And then we need to add IP address obfuscation as well that is superior to Tor and I2P.
CN must take the steps necessary to upgrade itself and so must DRK. Having no serious anonymity without IP obfuscation or being able to be broken through a Quantum Computer is not funny. Scaleability issues must also be solved, both in blockchain size and cpu power required to verify stuff.
The question is: Can MRO do these things?
here is crypto-zoigberg response to annonymints concerns: maybe somone with knowledge can compare and discuss
there is a user saying that there is no true anonimity until there is a way of obfuscating the IP address. Until that is done, the anonimity provided by cryptonote is not assured. can you please comment on this.
following are his thoughts (anonymint):
CryptoNote's one-time ring signature as a way of obfuscating who is the payer (the spender), is optional and can only be used when there are other payees who have matching input amounts. In other words, it can't do any obfuscation for you on spending unless there are other coins that have the same balance as yours.
That's why coinbase and wallet by default split outs into standart amounts, and when you need to send money to someone anonymously you almost always have some outs for mixin, you can learn this in Bytecoin blockchain, just check blockchain index. following are his thoughts (anonymint):
CryptoNote's one-time ring signature as a way of obfuscating who is the payer (the spender), is optional and can only be used when there are other payees who have matching input amounts. In other words, it can't do any obfuscation for you on spending unless there are other coins that have the same balance as yours.
That very infrequent opportunity for use is coupled with constant use of elliptical curve cryptography which is known to be broken under quantum computing, as well is suspect to broken by the NSA[1] or could be broken since it is number theoretic public key cryptography.
Quantum computer is like Schrödinger's cat - it is both real and unreal. 
The worst that can happend in case that quantum computer will become a real is hard fork.
And the use of one-time ring signatures mucks up the pruning of the block chain of spent addresses. There is a tweak to improve this over the current CryptoNote (one of the tweaks I alluded to upthread).
For this reason in Boolberry we chaged tx identification from whole blob hash to tx_prefix hash, and when blockchain entry will be covered by checkpoin the ring signatures could be cutoff.Bottom line is most of your anonymity will come from obfuscating your IP address with something more reliable than Tor and I2P, not from the block chain mixing of CryptoNote or Zerocash/coin, i.e. if your IP is correlated to your identity, then the one-time ring signature doesn't obscure your identity when you spend.
I disagree with you here. Crypto-currency, particularly Boolberry/CryptoNote, is a set of rules which is obligatory for all. First of all it is a currency_core that doesn't even know about network protocols or ip addresses.
It's just guarantees compliance with currency rules.
You (or anonymint) actually talks here about the way of delivering transactions to crypto currency net. But even if we don't provide a way to anonymize your ip now, just act via third party anonymizer if you prefer.
The case where the one-time ring signature is really useful is a transaction with multiple inputs wherein the spender is merging his coins, thus enabling tracing of those coins to the same entity (the current spender). And it is very unfortunate the one-time ring signature is optional in this case, because it is the identity of the upchain spenders who suffer from this action by the current spender, thus the motivation is not there.
If i understand you right, we solved this problem by adding attribute to each out, that can force spender to use this out only with ring singature.So we can see as it is currently structured, CryptoNote doesn't really support anonymity much.
Sorry to blow holes in your enthusiasm. Reality sucks if you haven't taken the time to do some serious work before launching.
Note that the use of a separate payee address for each transaction is a very useful strategy. This is a positive aspect of CryptoNote that adds anonymity, but again it is not so effective without reliable IP obfuscation, as the payee will reveal himself on spending.
Sorry to blow holes in your enthusiasm. Reality sucks if you haven't taken the time to do some serious work before launching.
Note that the use of a separate payee address for each transaction is a very useful strategy. This is a positive aspect of CryptoNote that adds anonymity, but again it is not so effective without reliable IP obfuscation, as the payee will reveal himself on spending.
Thanks for this post, you didn't blew holes in our enthusiasm. We still belive that this is most interesting technology in crypto-currencies field.
Dreamcoin fans talking about implementing ring signatures... Is it doable? I mean cryptonote source seems totally different.
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I just get up to 1 H/s with quadro-core (a 2.5GHz). Is this normal? How MRO can I expect per day?
as a bagholder of dark I think it is a mistake not to implement ring signature - anyway better for monero
Who knows when mintpal will add monero?
after gui wallet release i think
How it depends? It's not easy to add it to mintpal like every other bitcoin based shitcoin, requires some work to be done. If they want this volume, they will add it without GUI wallet. Mintpal can also don't add it if they are happy with their high-volume scamcoins and won't do a bit of additional work for one new coin.
Who knows when mintpal will add monero?
after gui wallet release i think
Who knows when mintpal will add monero?
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The pool found a block overnight, any idea when it is going to be paid out?
You do realize they wait 60 confirms, right?
Right, it was found few hours ago, so there have been more than 60 confirmations for sure. The maturity block counter on the pool page upon page refresh displays negative numbers that are decreasing, so I am pretty sure that the block is already confirmed. In addition, the time the block was found is reported as 1 AM, which regardless of the US timezone is far enough in the past.
New pool: extremehash.com, based in the US
The pool found a block overnight, any idea when it is going to be paid out?
when using cryptonote miner how does one access the wallet address which the miner auto creates??
no one has a clue?
I am sure you have to use simplewallet --wallet-file arg. Don't forget to backup wallet.bin.keys (or how you named the wallet file).
when using cryptonote miner how does one access the wallet address which the miner auto creates??
no one has a clue?
fx-8320 performance are better than i7 so it has a better hashing.
Why such a difference ? IDK
ehh no Why such a difference ? IDK
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/373/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770.html
You are playing with words. There are many CPU i7.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors
Most of them have lower perf than fx-8320 unless you take those you have better perf.
Fair enough. I have the i7-4770K
fx-8320 performance are better than i7 so it has a better hashing.
Why such a difference ? IDK
ehh no Why such a difference ? IDK
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/373/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-4770.html
You are playing with words. There are many CPU i7.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors
Most of them have lower perf than fx-8320 unless you take those you have better perf.
Is there a way to download boost 1.55 for Linux , or are there binaries for boost 1.53 (which is available for download from the site) ?!
Thank you for explaining why DRK is important or not important.
Thank you for explaining why DRK is important or not important.
http://www.boost.org/users/download/
What distro? On ubuntu/debian you can install packages. It's not necessary to install 1.55, 1.53 also will be fine.
There are prebuild binaries of simpleminer. Which explicitly require Boost 1.55
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