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Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 07:27:05 PM

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I'm on Arch too, and while it's in the repos, I shouldn't need it to fix a bug in a program, as the devs should be doing that.

Let me explain how this works. The devs' salary is....are you ready for it?......zero dollars and zero cents (or if you prefer zero moneros).

You are just as eligible to submit fixes to github as anyone else.

Throwing mud at the volunteer developers for not prioritizing what you think should be prioritized (and can easily be worked around with a standard utility) won't win you any style points.

I'm not saying the devs don't deserve a pat on the back for their work thus far. But they released alpha software. It's full of bugs. Not like some small oversight, but HUGE bugs.

Noone ever said this isnt alpha software. Hell bitcoin is still in beta after 5 years... Thats how open source software works....you release it and slowly community makes the software better... This is not a bitcoin clone!

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Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 07:27:05 PM

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I'm on Arch too, and while it's in the repos, I shouldn't need it to fix a bug in a program, as the devs should be doing that.

Let me explain how this works. The devs' salary is....are you ready for it?......zero dollars and zero cents (or if you prefer zero moneros).

You are just as eligible to submit fixes to github as anyone else.

Throwing mud at the volunteer developers for not prioritizing what you think should be prioritized (and can easily be worked around with a standard utility) won't win you any style points.

I'm not saying the devs don't deserve a pat on the back for their work thus far. But they released alpha software. It's full of bugs. Not like some small oversight, but HUGE bugs.

I agree. The merged mining stuff has been a disaster for example (wallet breaking bugs twice).

I don't understand why you are focusing on the one bug that has an easy and essentially complete work around though.

Any rational prioritization puts bugs with a workaround below bugs without one. That has been done here. Every time there has been a serious bug (i.e. merged mining breaking wallets twice, or a poor implementation of checkpointing being exploited), there was a fix pushed out very quickly.

Seriously, the devs are doing the best they can. If you can contribute to doing better, great. If not then appreciate what they do or move on to another coin. Repeatedly sniping at them here over relatively minor issues is getting old.

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Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 07:22:10 PM

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Quote from: GreekBitcoin on May 12, 2014, 04:48:36 PM

Quote from: verdun2003 on May 12, 2014, 04:44:58 PM

Anyone knows how many coins there are? Couldn't find the explorer.

cheers

number of blocks*17.2 . Something around that.

This is the only info I am able to find about current supply. Can anyone confirm this?

That's about right. The reward started at something like 17.5 now its down to about 16.9

Thank you both.

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I'm on Arch too, and while it's in the repos, I shouldn't need it to fix a bug in a program, as the devs should be doing that.

Let me explain how this works. The devs' salary is....are you ready for it?......zero dollars and zero cents (or if you prefer zero moneros).

You are just as eligible to submit fixes to github as anyone else.

Throwing mud at the volunteer developers for not prioritizing what you think should be prioritized (and can easily be worked around with a standard utility) won't win you any style points.

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Quote from: ibleed100s on May 13, 2014, 11:11:11 AM

Yah i tried that exact line they had, but it seems like it not working with 12.04 im very confused. driving me crazy!

Use do-upgrade-release thrice to upgrade.
From 12.04 to 12.10
From 12.10 to 13.04
From 13.04 to 13.10
Then try again

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Quote from: g4q34g4qg47ww on May 13, 2014, 07:20:16 PM

Quote from: GreekBitcoin on May 12, 2014, 04:48:36 PM

Quote from: verdun2003 on May 12, 2014, 04:44:58 PM

Anyone knows how many coins there are? Couldn't find the explorer.

cheers

number of blocks*17.2 . Something around that.

This is the only info I am able to find about current supply. Can anyone confirm this?

That's about right. The reward started at something like 17.5 now its down to about 16.9

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Quote from: seek4dream on May 13, 2014, 09:07:49 AM

there is only Windows 64-bit blockchain in the OP
will it work for 32-bit?

No, it won't. Please someone with a fully-sync'd 32-bits blockchain upload it, I will add it to the pack.

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Quote from: GreekBitcoin on May 12, 2014, 04:48:36 PM

Quote from: verdun2003 on May 12, 2014, 04:44:58 PM

Anyone knows how many coins there are? Couldn't find the explorer.

cheers

number of blocks*17.2 . Something around that.

This is the only info I am able to find about current supply. Can anyone confirm this?

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It doesn't even COMPILE on Arch.

I am on Arch (well, Manjaro). Use http://bit.ly/monerostarterpack and get the Linux binaries - they are compiled on Ubuntu but work on Arch. I am the maintainer, by the way.

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Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 07:10:23 PM

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Okay, one feature we REALLY need in simplewallet is a command history buffer. It doesn't have to be persistent; it can start with an empty buffer every time. Having to retype things kinda sucks. And I automatically press the up arrow and get garbage that I have to erase.

Duly noted, you are not the only one to wish for it!

Use rlwrap

$ rlwrap ./simpleminer --wallet mywallet

So, install a third-party piece of software to fix a bug in Monero because the devs aren't doing it?

Not third party Ubuntu. Standard package. Not sure about other distros though.

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Okay, one feature we REALLY need in simplewallet is a command history buffer. It doesn't have to be persistent; it can start with an empty buffer every time. Having to retype things kinda sucks. And I automatically press the up arrow and get garbage that I have to erase.

Duly noted, you are not the only one to wish for it!

Use rlwrap

$ rlwrap ./simpleminer --wallet mywallet

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on May 13, 2014, 02:31:35 AM

I agree completely and withdraw my previous attitude. I thought transparency of the issue would be smart, especially considering interested parties have already been accused of "conspiring" behind the community's back. I also wanted knowledgable followers of the thread to be aware of the issue, especially if they have interest in MRO. I don't mind where the discussion takes place, as long as the people in this thread to know it's taking place.

I suggest regularly pasting a text like "Reminder, for those interested in the deep economics issues that monero is trying to solve, please read Monero economy". Or something like that, you get the idea (The OP has so much info I am not sure people would get it - or maybe people interested in it are the same people that use the whole OP, then issue solved).

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Okay, one feature we REALLY need in simplewallet is a command history buffer. It doesn't have to be persistent; it can start with an empty buffer every time. Having to retype things kinda sucks. And I automatically press the up arrow and get garbage that I have to erase.

Duly noted, you are not the only one to wish for it!

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Quote from: GreekBitcoin on May 13, 2014, 06:24:40 PM

Quote from: zeetak on May 13, 2014, 04:53:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 04:23:41 PM

Quote from: zeetak on May 13, 2014, 04:13:04 PM

hahaha, there is actually a file called slow-hash.c!

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/7620d55e6c9d9d625740004c86de17354ccceed2

it's almost as if somebody wanted others to optimize it...

I'm just guessing (the cryptonote developers are mysterious so usually all we can do is guess) it's called slow hash because it is intended to be used a memory-hard proof-of-work, as opposed to other (faster) hashes used for digests.

Oh sure, come up with a totally reasonable explanation for my find Grin

your find is at least a week old if you check the thread and thats a pretty reasonable explanation...

That too.

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Quote from: zeetak on May 13, 2014, 04:53:47 PM

Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 04:23:41 PM

Quote from: zeetak on May 13, 2014, 04:13:04 PM

hahaha, there is actually a file called slow-hash.c!

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/7620d55e6c9d9d625740004c86de17354ccceed2

it's almost as if somebody wanted others to optimize it...

I'm just guessing (the cryptonote developers are mysterious so usually all we can do is guess) it's called slow hash because it is intended to be used a memory-hard proof-of-work, as opposed to other (faster) hashes used for digests.

Oh sure, come up with a totally reasonable explanation for my find Grin

your find is at least a week old if you check the thread and thats a pretty reasonable explanation...

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Quote from: smooth on May 13, 2014, 04:23:41 PM

Quote from: zeetak on May 13, 2014, 04:13:04 PM

hahaha, there is actually a file called slow-hash.c!

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/7620d55e6c9d9d625740004c86de17354ccceed2

it's almost as if somebody wanted others to optimize it...

I'm just guessing (the cryptonote developers are mysterious so usually all we can do is guess) it's called slow hash because it is intended to be used a memory-hard proof-of-work, as opposed to other (faster) hashes used for digests.

Oh sure, come up with a totally reasonable explanation for my find Grin

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Quote from: zeetak on May 13, 2014, 04:13:04 PM

hahaha, there is actually a file called slow-hash.c!

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/7620d55e6c9d9d625740004c86de17354ccceed2

it's almost as if somebody wanted others to optimize it...

I'm just guessing (the cryptonote developers are mysterious so usually all we can do is guess) it's called slow hash because it is intended to be used a memory-hard proof-of-work, as opposed to other (faster) hashes used for digests.

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hahaha, there is actually a file called slow-hash.c!

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/commit/7620d55e6c9d9d625740004c86de17354ccceed2

it's almost as if somebody wanted others to optimize it...

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There's now a giveaway going on at Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/25h70g/giveaway_1400_mro_28_btc_for_free/

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Quote from: purplejaguar on May 13, 2014, 03:29:25 PM

What is the max supply of this coin? I didn't see it in the OP. And is there only one exchange?

It's 18.4 million (given in the OP), but a minimum subsidy will likely implemented so that there's a very slow inflation starting in about 8 years. Yes, there's only one exchange because this is not based on Bitcoin so it takes some effort to integrate.

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What is the max supply of this coin? I didn't see it in the OP. And is there only one exchange?

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