Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 602. (Read 4670673 times)

AAAAA I see..Well I am a newbie so I was afraid .Well then I should not care too much since I just learnt about "pump and dump" thing.So now we have a big(not huge tho) dump.Well I will wait for price to go up ,so that I can sell my 160 moneros

So the fund sender can uncover and identify the IP of the receiver by ViewKey?

Just FYI, semiweekly = 2x / week. On the other hand, biweekly can be either 2x / week or every other week, but usually means every other week. Perhaps you could use "fortnightly" for an abundance of clarity.


All users have their own viewkey.

not only monero other coins are going down too. it might be because of bitcoin price rise?

Moneros, which party holds ViewKey? Only the sender or also the receiver of funds? Or both?

No, I just couldn't resist Posting when I saw Dash on Btc-e after all that trolling

You here? 
Consider opening cryptonote pools?
 

Probably because Dash got added to Btc-e and pornero not

Speculators be speculating! Plenty is going on, but I don't recall seeing the exchange rate caring much for activity.

I see xmr is going down very very quickly.What is going on ?

No, in fact if one node sends such a transaction it will be disconnected and eventually banned.

Do clients at the moment relay txs with no or too low fee, and miners just won't include them in a block? I'm guessing no, but just curious if it would be possible to communicate via mempool without including things in blocks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4gkxox/mycelium_new_wallet_announcement/

Among others:

I cant wait to join you guys once monero hits 35 cents!

Yeah it goes in the tx_extra field like the payment ID.

I haven't really looked into it, but I was under the impression that the messaging feature of duckdarkdigitalnote just used the mempool for transmitting the message, and then after a few days it fell out due to not enough fee or something (I thought you didn't have to pay a fee to message), kind of like bitmessage or something.

Nevermind, I just opened the wallet and you definitely have to pay a fee to send a message, so I guess it is stored in the blockchain.

There are many ways one could implement messaging, but I don't favor storing p2p messages on the blockchain itself. Encrypted is even worse, in a way, since that can't possibly be of any benefit to anyone other than the specific recipient. (At least if you store bible verses or dick pics, there might be a few people who are interested in that.)

I would propose something like:

Create and submit a small transaction that pays a fee and includes a hash.

After the transaction is successfully mined, you may submit a message packet up to some maximum size (for example 32 KB) that matches the hash (assume the message is encrypted, but it wouldn't necessarily need to be) into the mempool, where it will be stored and relayed to peers. Once the transaction reaches a given depth in the chain (for example seven days; 5040 blocks), the hash expires and the message may no longer be submitted or relayed.

It is true that it is extremely difficult if not impossible to prevent use of the blockchain for storage of arbitrary data that does not benefit most of the people incurring the cost of the system, but providing a useful mechanism that does much the same thing in a less harmful manner is a good way to discourage it.

Possibly the lifetime and allowable size of the message could be a function of the fee paid, but there is no good way to set the fee, nor a good way to compensate the node operators for storing and forwarding it, so the suggestion of a fixed life and size is intended to limit the cost to something reasonably negligible.

While I've not tried it, I think it's mostly what we now have as a encrypted payment ids, except the size is increased to some large value, instead of being restricted to 64 bits. So pretty easy to add in theory, leaving just the UI fluff.

https://motherboard.vice.com/read/darpa-decentralized-blockchain-encryption-messaging-app


Damn, DARPA getting all gangster wit' deh signalz.  (Chinese/Mexican/etc. mafias are well known for using publicly visible graffiti ciphers).

 

What would it take (IE how much would it cost) to port XDN's nifty messaging feature to XMR?

Are we far along the roadmap to do it without incurring too much technical debt and risking the need for a re-do?

I'm waiting for any excuse to donate to a worthy project in warptangent's name, to start a memorial fund.

- Type 1 [1] governments (we rule you, but just tax you) are after your income. They tax that. How you spend your stuff isn't really relevant to them, as long as the recipients of your spending also account for their income, etc. Type 2 governments (we rule you, and you kowtow to our allegedly very large appendage every morning, peon) want all, because they fap at it. Monero can't cater to type 2, some may see that as a flaw.

- There is a patch somewhere on my github tree, that allows this, though relies on the sender to not be malicious (ie, if you spend from elsewhere, your watch wallet will see it, but a thief may choose to make a tx out that it will not see; so it's useful to keep track of your balance as you use your monero, but not to compulsively check whether someone brute forced your wallet).

- I have in my list of things to do a RPC to export a signed set of key images. I just added the ability to sign/verify an arbitrary message, which is a first step.

[1] I totally made this classification up.