Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 672. (Read 4671660 times)

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 01:09:31 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Quote from: GingerAle on February 16, 2016, 01:16:49 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Is this official? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

scroll to bottom.

I get a red No Daemon connection message. Guess it's not working.

Your 18081 port open?

http://www.canyouseeme.org/

also that node might be dead.

these nodes are open:
104.255.33.226
194.135.90.69
23.227.190.223

hosted here by the community / some great monerian.
https://bitnodes.net/status/

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 01:09:31 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Is this official? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

scroll to bottom.

I get a red No Daemon connection message. Guess it's not working.

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Quote from: Herp on February 16, 2016, 01:14:31 PM

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Just checked. South African Rands take up no disk space and don't eat any RAM. Best of all, they're exceptionally private.

GUYS LET'S ALL SWITCH TO SOUTH AFRICAN RANDS, K TKS.

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Well I do and Crawallmining does also.

I'd like to see database size decreased, yes. But I surely don't take Dash as a positive example, since I find its privacy concept quite primitive in comparison to Monero.

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Quote from: GingerAle on February 16, 2016, 01:16:49 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 01:09:31 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Quote from: Herp on February 16, 2016, 01:14:31 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Is this official? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

scroll to bottom.

One can also run the official simplewallet with a remote node. Node and instructions are here -> https://www.moneroclub.com/node. However, like I and others have stated before, using a remote node has a detrimental effect on privacy.

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Well I do and Crawallmining does also.

Who?

canth

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Quote from: Herp on February 16, 2016, 01:12:38 PM

Quote from: canth on February 16, 2016, 01:01:01 PM

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

It's not 3rd party. It's open source modified code.

By 3rd party, I am referring to Dash masternodes. There are no masternodes in Monero.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 01:09:31 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Quote from: Herp on February 16, 2016, 01:12:38 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Is this official? https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

scroll to bottom.

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Quote from: canth on February 16, 2016, 01:01:01 PM

Quote from: erok on February 16, 2016, 01:05:20 PM

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

It's not 3rd party. It's open source modified code.

It's open source here. Not sure what difference you're talking about then.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 01:09:31 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Just checked. Nobody cares.

Well I do and Crawallmining does also.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Quote from: canth on February 16, 2016, 01:01:01 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13710902

Like, I've said. I don't wanna get ripped off using dubious wallets. Why isn't this on the official download page?

Herp

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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

It's not 3rd party. It's open source modified code.

krawallmining

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Will better database compression be integrated into the client?
I just compressed the databse with 7-Zip and it has decreased from 7.9GB to 4.2.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Electrum has a detrimental effect on privacy too, even when using DASH. You can find the Monero lightwallet here -> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13710902

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Just checked. Nobody cares.

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Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

Sure - it's small, but does it actually do the job you need it to? With Monero, I don't need to trust some 3rd party to keep my transactions private.

Herp

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of in this case by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Just checked. The Dash Electrum wallet takes around 80MB HDD space and eats 29MB of RAM.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM

Ok screw it. Guess I'll just install the wallet on my other 64-bit machine but not happy about it.

Does the wallet download the whole blockchain?

Yes, you need to start bitmonerod (the daemon) to sync the blockchain. After that you can open simplewallet (make sure bitmonerod is still running) to transact.

So isn't there some light wallet like Electrum Monero that doesn't download the whole chain? Dash has two types of wallets, one that downloads the whole chain and another Electrum light wallet. The light wallet is perfect for storage.

Traditional light wallets just try to alleviate RAM usage which is naturally taken care of by dumping the blockchain data to the hard drive. A recent monero change. If I understand it correctly.

Monero did recentl make an official release that moved the db from ram to hd, but there is a way to run a much "lighter" wallet with Monero: because the daemon and wallet are separate you can launch simplewallet using a remote node. Atrides runs a publicly available node that a gui I wrote for simplewallet (imaginatively titled lightwallet) uses by default. You do sacrifice some privacy this way, but you don't need the daemon or blockchain at all.

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Quote from: dEBRUYNE on February 16, 2016, 12:35:30 PM