Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 854. (Read 4671660 times)

I'm still trying to figure out why you're here. Do you know?

I dunno… Bitcoin has survived a disappearing dev, a silk road and a mt gox. perhaps with truly innovative coins more leeway is granted.

Bytecoin is the innovator in the cryptonote coin story and what you describe as 'massive fraud' and 'premine scam' can be viewed more generously as 'mining in small, secretive circles'.

There are so many easier ways to scam people out of money in crypto than to produce original and innovative code, which Bytecoin continue to do.

Is it that you feel Monero will fail unless you continue to "blow the lid off Bytecoin"? Since the tech is originally theirs and they press ahead with development the only real features Monero offers is a good community and (very) probably better distribution.

In addition to Chinese, Arabic and Portuguese, now we have someone interested in helping with Russian translations.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3dfa9z/arabic_and_portuguese/ct4lwnj

I will not rest until Monero is introduced to the entire world. China is just the beginning

There was likely less than 10 interested ones for a Malla XMR conference. So regrettably we won't be having one.

Luckily, though, Malla Summer Camp is constantly ongoing 20 July - 21 August, with me, my family, friends, relatives, and local gold/silver/BTC/XMR people attending for shorter and longer durations. If you request invitation, PM me

Since you are new here I'll repeat what has been said consistently for the past year. None of us is specifically full time on Monero. We are all involved in other activities, mostly running businesses. We took on leading the Monero project as a volunteer effort because as community members we saw promising technology that was, and is, going nowhere because some people decided to launch it as a fraudulent premine scam.

Our primary role is to direct the project, set priorities, and coordinate the efforts of the community. Some of us also contribute coding, but not all of us are even coders at all, or don't have a large enough block of time available for coding to be a good use of our time. The bulk of the coding is done by community members who submit pull requests on github which we review and usually accept (sometimes with feedback, discussion and/or modification). One of those community members got some crowdfunding to work regularly on Monero, but most of the work is volunteer, or in support of other businesses or projects that are Monaro-related.

I don't know how you compare this in terms of "greater incentive", or "working harder/faster" since it is a completely different model.


Our holdings vary, but none are particularly enormous (though I certainly wouldn't call $4K enormous) None of the donations have ever gone to enrich the core team, they go to cover part of the project expenses, the rest of which has been covered by the core team out of our own pockets.


Nothing is going to become embarrassing, because coins with massive fraud in their histories are going absolutely nowhere over the longer term. Serious investors and developers won't go near them. Sure, altcoin speculators and fanboys on bitcointalk will play with them, but that ends the way every other once-hot-but-now-failed altcoin does.

Is this a new Monero fiat exchange?
https://xstock.io/

Who owns it?
rpietila perhaps since I found it linked here
http://moneroinvestment.com/?page_id=19

I think we have at least 3 fiat exchanges now including MoneroClub and altquick

Monero can be promoted to those new to crypto without first needing to deal with BTC!

David is still in active contact with the rest of the core team but at the moment he's quite busy with some other activities, as we all are from time to time.

huge commit from Noodle, a lot of respect for your work, thank you!

may i ask if david is still active? never seen him since we toped out  

also good to see warptanget commiting, love you all 

^This is why a new tagged release can not be rushed and wow awesome optimizations, this is very fast sync with extreme low RAM usage.

Done and done 
ty GingerAle!

Yeah, thats spot on - however, my OP was off... so I edited it. Basically you have to post in the Open Tasks section. It helps tidy things up - for instance, that particular idea thread has a lot of noise.

eventually we'll iron this out

Thanks for the heads up papa_lazzarou.  
I'm keeping an eye on translation developments both here and on the getmonero forums. I was not opening up a task just yet as the translation framework was still being put in place, but seeing as things are moving a bit faster at the moment, I'll make a post shortly.

Edit: Done. Now I suppose I need to wait for the respective task to be open, eventually accepted, and funding secured.
@GingerAle, please have a look?  Portuguese Translation
Not sure I'm following the expected procedure there 

Aren't the Monero Team full-time? Do they have day jobs? You are implying they'd be working harder/faster with a greater incentive. Could they be doing more? Is it true?

smooth spends an awful lot of time posting on BCT, not that I mind, I enjoy his posts. I assume that each dev holds more than 0.1% - thatd only be ~$4000! Dont they get donations too?

Im inclined to agree with your thought, BCN devs almost certainly do have a greater incentive. This means things may become more embarrassing for XMR as time continues which is regrettable since you're mostly a nice bunch of guys.

@Myagui

Re: translation

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11884801

I'd argue that there is a major difference with incentives here. If you're going to work for free, where are you most likely to spend your time? In a company where you own 82% of the stocks, or in a company where you own maybe 0.1%?

Monero devs has to compete for the coins like everybody else. It's only natural that they can't spend as much time working for free as someone who, with roughly 82% premine, benefit massively from even minor price increases.

Not one of my better posts admitedly. Too much use of the word bitching. I will re-phrase:

My problem with XMR is that you have not innovated tech and have no GUI wallet, and yet you satisfy yourselves by bashing Bytecoin and present yourselves as the only option when your scam assertions (while intriguing) remain unproven and Bytecoin continue to push development faster than you. If BCN continue to push development faster than you this will become increasingly embarrasing for Monero and your cries of "premine!" will, for better or worse, fall on deaf ears. Bytecoin have a very slick product which is about to get slicker. You're not out of the woodin yet.

You are welcome 
Take a look at https://www.cryptsy.com/coinvotes
BTC38 -> write a mail to their support with the wish to get Monero listed 

Thank you. Hope to see Monero on more exchanges soon
any updates for Cryptsy or BTC38?

Hy ladies and gents  
[XMR] Monero is on voting at cryptopia.co.nz
If you have interest on getting Monero there, please vote, you can vote ONCE/DAY