[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 859.

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Quote from: Hueristic on July 10, 2015, 04:46:33 PM

Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on July 10, 2015, 03:56:27 PM

The "official GUI" argument is becoming valid because there is a minimum level of expectation that comes to user experience that sooner or later we have to address. I don't think it's unreasonable to have a basic GUI bundled in the release. In fact it's unreasonable to expect Monero's user base to continue to grow without one.

^^This.

I am of the impression the reason the GUI has been continually delayed is for Monero's PTB to accumulate. Which I really have no problem with as I'm looking for cheap coins myself.

Interesting theory but I doubt this is the case. I believe projects are just being worked on according to the order in the development roadmap.

Of course the development team is working on other related projects as well such as Crypto Kingdom, etc

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Quote from: papa_lazzarou on July 10, 2015, 10:14:39 AM

About brain wallets are not so secure after all, and its all your fault:
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/brainflayer-password-cracker-steals-bitcoins-brain/

Fortunately, the implementation of electrum style seeds in monero wallets gives us (kinda) the same ease of use and much stronger security.

Brain wallets are fine. All you have to do is make it a combination of randomly generated string that's short enough to be memorized, a more traditional pass-phrase (your mothers maiden name + your fathers birthday + your favorite candy, or how ever normal people make passwords), and then something public domain tacked on the end to add some entropy almost for free. Ezpz and no "brainflayer" is going to ever crack that.

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Quote from: generalizethis on July 10, 2015, 02:01:08 PM

TPTB_need_war is asking about I2p integration and Monero.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11842826

Is there a donation address for I2P integration?

I think resiliency, not adoption, should be be the highest priority.

Adoption will take care of itself given a superior product.

99.9% of the millions of people capable of using a CLI don't know or GAF about XMR, and those are the ones who can help build the GUI, etc.

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on July 10, 2015, 03:56:27 PM

The "official GUI" argument is becoming valid because there is a minimum level of expectation that comes to user experience that sooner or later we have to address. I don't think it's unreasonable to have a basic GUI bundled in the release. In fact it's unreasonable to expect Monero's user base to continue to grow without one.

^^This.

I am of the impression the reason the GUI has been continually delayed is for Monero's PTB to accumulate. Which I really have no problem with as I'm looking for cheap coins myself.

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The "official GUI" argument is becoming valid because there is a minimum level of expectation that comes to user experience that sooner or later we have to address. I don't think it's unreasonable to have a basic GUI bundled in the release. In fact it's unreasonable to expect Monero's user base to continue to grow without one.

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By the way, just because I am focused on China does not mean I do not care about other countries. I actually have been sending PMs to translators who speak other languages (besides Chinese) the last few days and directing them to our getmonero.org forum to make a proposal.

I want the entire world to find out about Monero and how it can help protect their financial privacy!

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Facts are more efficient than fud

TPTB_need_war is asking about I2p integration and Monero.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11842826

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Quote from: binaryFate on July 10, 2015, 01:06:51 PM

Can anybody express very clearly what the cryptonote Qt wallet would bring to the table that the existing wallets don't?

From a differences perspective I don't think any of the other wallets are integrated solutions where you don't have run a separate node, possibly a separate simplewallet, and then the wallet itself. The cryptonote Qt is like Bitcoin Qt. You just need that one binary and you are good to go.

From a technical perspective that is arguably a negative due to no separation of concerns and lack of a clear security boundary between your private keys and the rest of the code, but many people know the Bitcoin Qt model and find it acceptable.

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Quote from: binaryFate on July 10, 2015, 01:38:46 PM

So it's only about this "official" word, seriously? You should try to convince Jojatekok to rename his wallet "officialX" so everyone's happy.

Why do you care? Don't contribute then... You just took a part of what I said and mock it. No need for your cynicism.

Maybe I'm tired to read the same debate over and over again.
If it was just a group of people doing something, I wouldn't care, but you're asking the core team to vouch for it and the entire community to accept this idea.

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Actualy I am not in favor of "officializate" an existent wallet, the current wallets use simplewallet API, I dont think that official wallet should need to use the simplewallet API and should have the API integrasted in it as part of the wallet, at the momment (for what i know) there is no wallet comunicating directly with the daemon...
In other prespective i am more favorable to have "trust" wallets, a list of wallets where the code opensource and the comunity trust the dev(s) of that wallet
MoneroX is my first candidate to that, but can be more than one, i think that when official LMDB bins came out someone should provide an "All in one" package

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So it's only about this "official" word, seriously? You should try to convince Jojatekok to rename his wallet "officialX" so everyone's happy.

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Quote from: binaryFate on July 10, 2015, 01:06:51 PM

Can anybody express very clearly what the cryptonote Qt wallet would bring to the table that the existing wallets don't?

I think people are expressing a desire for an official wallet that supports the Monero logo, etc. The cryptocurrency wallet is the "gateway" into the particular cryptocurrency. It needs to be easy on the eyes, catchy, flashy, elegant, etc. Its a marketing thing. Of course, this has nothing to do with the actual nuts and bolts of Monero; however, it attracts users.

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Can anybody express very clearly what the cryptonote Qt wallet would bring to the table that the existing wallets don't?

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Quote from: luigi1111 on July 10, 2015, 11:24:47 AM

Quote from: Support81WorldWide on July 10, 2015, 11:08:35 AM

Quote from: papa_lazzarou on July 10, 2015, 10:14:39 AM

About brain wallets are not so secure after all, and its all your fault:
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/brainflayer-password-cracker-steals-bitcoins-brain/

Fortunately, the implementation of electrum style seeds in monero wallets gives us (kinda) the same ease of use and much stronger security.

Hello we are new to Crypto ...

What was the ATH of monero before?

Does it have the potential to ever reach $7 like LTC..if so when?

Any major updates coming?

ATH in USD per coin was around $6 (0.01 BTC) about a year ago. Emission is *radically* different now, so a direct comparison isn't very apt. Additionally BTC is somewhere around 50% of where it was a year ago.

ATH is market cap isn't that far off from current, probably about 100% higher or so.

A comparison with $7 LTC also isn't very apt, as LTC has almost 5x more coins right now.

In early September we will reach an emission milestone which I think could have a major psychological impact on the feeling of Monero scarcity. Take advantage of cheap prices and or start mining now

Once 50% of all Monero have been mined people may be more unwilling to sell near current price levels

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Quote from: Support81WorldWide on July 10, 2015, 11:08:35 AM

Quote from: papa_lazzarou on July 10, 2015, 10:14:39 AM

About brain wallets are not so secure after all, and its all your fault:
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/brainflayer-password-cracker-steals-bitcoins-brain/

Fortunately, the implementation of electrum style seeds in monero wallets gives us (kinda) the same ease of use and much stronger security.

Hello we are new to Crypto ...

What was the ATH of monero before?

Does it have the potential to ever reach $7 like LTC..if so when?

Any major updates coming?

ATH in USD per coin was around $6 (0.01 BTC) about a year ago. Emission is *radically* different now, so a direct comparison isn't very apt. Additionally BTC is somewhere around 50% of where it was a year ago.

ATH in market cap isn't that far off from current, probably about 100% higher or so.

A comparison with $7 LTC also isn't very apt, as LTC has almost 5x more coins right now.

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Quote from: papa_lazzarou on July 10, 2015, 10:14:39 AM

About brain wallets are not so secure after all, and its all your fault:
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/brainflayer-password-cracker-steals-bitcoins-brain/

Fortunately, the implementation of electrum style seeds in monero wallets gives us (kinda) the same ease of use and much stronger security.

Hello we are new to Crypto ...

What was the ATH of monero before?

Does it have the potential to ever reach $7 like LTC..if so when?

Any major updates coming?

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About brain wallets are not so secure after all, and its all your fault:
http://www.wired.com/2015/07/brainflayer-password-cracker-steals-bitcoins-brain/

Fortunately, the implementation of electrum style seeds in monero wallets gives us (kinda) the same ease of use and much stronger security.

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Quote from: GingerAle on July 10, 2015, 06:27:23 AM

Quote from: antanst on July 10, 2015, 05:38:57 AM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the Cryptonote/Bytecoin QT Gui is not open source. So no porting possible.

https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonotewallet

there it is!!!!

Thanks, I hadn't seen this repo. Looks more like QT boilerplate code though, like the one we already have in Github. Maybe someone more knowledgeable in C/C++ can confirm.

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Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on July 10, 2015, 04:27:15 AM

Quote from: GingerAle on July 09, 2015, 09:58:23 PM

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Quote from: XMRChina on July 09, 2015, 08:21:45 PM

Quote from: Johnny Mnemonic on July 09, 2015, 08:16:45 PM

I'll pledge 100 XMR to anyone who wants to incorporate cryptonote's qt GUI in monero and merge it into master. Anyone want to add to the bounty?

I will pledge another 100XMR so long as it can be done and released by the end of July

I want Monero to be as usable as possible for the average Chinese user before August 8th

I'll throw some funds in on this if someone steps up. I assume they'll go through the funding process on the getmonero forum?

not to be the negative nelly, but I think funds would be better spent on a full time developer. Re: cryptonote GUI - does anyone know how compatible it will be? Does anyone know what the lifespan of it will be, considering the underlying core is set to change ... a lot?

If you want to get this going on the monero forum funding system, start an idea thread. See if a developer will step up to the plate.

re: bolded- what usability do you want? if our reference is bitcoin, does the average chinese user go through the trouble of setting up a full node in order to hodl? Or do they just get a wallet on blockchain.info etc? mymonero.com = usable.

I believe smooth stated that it would be fairly straight forward to adapt the cryptonote GUI to monero (please correct me if I misunderstood or my memory is incorrect).

I'm pledging my portion of the bounty to the cryptonote qt GUI because it would be familiar to most people already in crypto.

RE: Hiring a full time developer. I don't support this, unless it's already a core team member or a heavy contributor to the XMR repository. If that is the case, then I definitely do support the idea and will contribute to that effort as well.

[1] I can recall him saying this too, however I think we must not spend too much funds on this, since funds can be better spend on other developments.

[2] Regarding the bolded part, I certainly agree. I don't like to "hire" someone with our funds who isn't even familiar with the codebase, since that will most likely be a 6 month waste of our funds (him getting familiar with the codebase).

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Quote from: antanst on July 10, 2015, 05:38:57 AM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that the Cryptonote/Bytecoin QT Gui is not open source. So no porting possible.

https://github.com/cryptonotefoundation/cryptonotewallet

there it is!!!!

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