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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 928. (Read 4670673 times)

hero member
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SERIOUSLY!

this is what we get for those days getting like 4 blocks in a row.

what does your 970 get hashrate wise? I'm still trying to figure out if I should continue trying to acquire 750 ti's or go up a grade.


I don't have a 970, but i have a 980 (reference no frills or overclock) - i'm getting around 400-420 H/s


OC'd 970 gets 460-480 H/s mining Cryptonote.

BUT, it gets 16MHash/sec mining Quark algo, which equates to about 4 XMR a day at current payrates.
sr. member
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hello world
It would be very interesting to see how many xmr the donations address received until now.
cant say if the hall of fame donations are big or if the pool donations became big over time too.

XMR was since its beginning founded by idealists and visionaires. not all of them have money, but some do. motivation to do so has not been any ROI or whatever i guess, but the vision of a real p2p internet currency that protects its users. Biggest founding is coming from the devs with their time, energy and money. they are the people who are driven mostly by non financial interests it seems.

Investors are different, but also there this kind of attitude exists. Sure all of them want to earn money, but thats not the only reason why they are here. this is what makes monero different.

Regarding TPTB, i guess he is a one of them too. He would contribute for free to this sector if he could afford without thinking about it i guess, just out of interest, idealism, need to save mankind or whatever. But he can't right now, thats why he is looking for money, what i find is totally legit.

me personally is very happy that monero chain has no premine. whats the difference of devs having a premine to dump compared to donations? ok "donators" get xmr in return, but thats about it. Thats not worth it if you ask me.

bulletproof anon, yes - but the rest transparent and open
legendary
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Free spirit
SSD is much more modern than my techy experience sorry if I got your hopes up.
hero member
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Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!

Terrible news.

You might want to save the dead hard drive. If there is a "moon" event, taking a shot with an expensive data recovery service might be worth it.



How exactly did the drive fail?

traditional drives have moving parts and can get stuck up with gunk. there is a pad that cleans it off but this gets clogged and can grab the head and stick it firm.

A trick I used to try sometimes is the take the handle of a heavy screw driver and tap the drive as it tries to spin up. This can free the read head and bring it back to life.

At one company where I was new they were like WTF are you doing? but sure enough they weren't complaining when their machine came back to life. Smiley

Good luck this might not be your problem but worth a try.

Also if you just cant boot from it? maybe it can be configured as a slave to see if there is more accessible data there still from a different point of view (new OS).

It's a OCX Agility SSD. No moving parts. I tried putting it into another computer and it can't see it. i tried Linux, Mac and PC - no luck on all of them. The drive was 3 years old. Maybe that's the life span? I heard they can go 5 years, but maybe I just used mine a lot.
hero member
Activity: 509
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Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!



Sorry to hear that.

Just wanna give the following tip.

Depending on the drive, and if it is a mechanical problem, SOMETIMES turning the drive upside down gives you enough access time to get some files out.

I tried that. From what I can tell, my SSD drive is 'asleep' or 'locked'. Something that happens to older and lower end drives. It's a windows 7 sleep mode issue.
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Free spirit
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!

Terrible news.

You might want to save the dead hard drive. If there is a "moon" event, taking a shot with an expensive data recovery service might be worth it.



How exactly did the drive fail?

traditional drives have moving parts and can get stuck up with gunk. there is a pad that cleans it off but this gets clogged and can grab the head and stick it firm.

A trick I used to try sometimes is the take the handle of a heavy screw driver and tap the drive as it tries to spin up. This can free the read head and bring it back to life.

At one company where I was new they were like WTF are you doing? but sure enough they weren't complaining when their machine came back to life. Smiley

Good luck this might not be your problem but worth a try.

Also if you just cant boot from it? maybe it can be configured as a slave to see if there is more accessible data there still from a different point of view (new OS).
hero member
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Those companies cost too much. I looked into it. It costs around 250 dollars (US) and I lost about 1 BTC worth. I might as well just start mining again. on the plus side, on a pool I mined 1 XMR since yesterday Smiley


My condolences on the loss of your drive and XMR.  Cry

Not to poo-poo on your XMR mining, but depending on your hardware, you might be better served mining on a multipool that pays BTC and then just buy XMR.
Maybe leave the CPU('s) mining Monero and point the GPU's at WestHash or something.

1 each of Geforce 750Ti and GTX 970 lately have netted me the equivalent of ~5 XMR  (~0.010 BTC) per day at current payrates, mining Quark algo at WestHash/NiceHash.

I leave the CPU to mine XMR directly. (C'mon MoneroHash -- find a block! [been 3 days])

SERIOUSLY!

this is what we get for those days getting like 4 blocks in a row.

what does your 970 get hashrate wise? I'm still trying to figure out if I should continue trying to acquire 750 ti's or go up a grade.


I don't have a 970, but i have a 980 (reference no frills or overclock) - i'm getting around 400-420 H/s
hero member
Activity: 649
Merit: 500
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!



Sorry to hear that.

Just wanna give the following tip.

Depending on the drive, and if it is a mechanical problem, SOMETIMES turning the drive upside down gives you enough access time to get some files out.
legendary
Activity: 1260
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Those companies cost too much. I looked into it. It costs around 250 dollars (US) and I lost about 1 BTC worth. I might as well just start mining again. on the plus side, on a pool I mined 1 XMR since yesterday Smiley


My condolences on the loss of your drive and XMR.  Cry

Not to poo-poo on your XMR mining, but depending on your hardware, you might be better served mining on a multipool that pays BTC and then just buy XMR.
Maybe leave the CPU('s) mining Monero and point the GPU's at WestHash or something.

1 each of Geforce 750Ti and GTX 970 lately have netted me the equivalent of ~5 XMR  (~0.010 BTC) per day at current payrates, mining Quark algo at WestHash/NiceHash.

I leave the CPU to mine XMR directly. (C'mon MoneroHash -- find a block! [been 3 days])

SERIOUSLY!

this is what we get for those days getting like 4 blocks in a row.

what does your 970 get hashrate wise? I'm still trying to figure out if I should continue trying to acquire 750 ti's or go up a grade.
legendary
Activity: 1260
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Where in that post did I mention fairness?

I'll say it again. If you want a direct financial payback for your work, just buy coins, and then work to make them worth more. It's maybe "not fair" that you got in early and cheap, but I fail to see any reason that model doesn't work.

A desire to preserve fairness or live up to some lofty ideal are the only reasons I can see for the Monero team not having several hundred thousand XMR set aside for development. A clever individual could have found a way to acquire these coins, and then you could have even preserved the image by funneling them into the donation address. It is an anonymous coin, after all  Wink

You mean clever like Evan? That's not coming back on his coin at all   Roll Eyes

Also, are you just ignoring ArticMine's FinCen observation or just don't understand that an IPO type launch could DOOM Developers who used this type of tactic to raise funds? I like my Devs free form controversy and governmental investigation. Your selfish-idealism may prove to be the bigger hampering to any long-term project in crypto.

Also, is the fact that the best, biggest and most successful cryptocurrency project was/is being carried out in the same manner as Monero lost on you? Bitcoin may have technological limitations when it comes to privacy and scaling, but the launch and development are the biggest success in an e-cash ever. Whatever works, works.

The only reason there's not several hundred thousand monero set aside for development is because #1: the monero core team didn't launch the coin, so they couldn't have snuck in (or implemented) anything to the code to set aside these funds... and furthermore, I agree with some of the other posts that your disappointment misses the boat concerning the whole purpose of Monero's existence, which was a fairly launched cryptonote coin with a bitcoin-like emission schedule - it was launched in direct opposition to the Bytecoin scam.

But dude, i totally get you - we're holding on to this great technology that needs a fair amount of work to become "perfect", and if you're like me (i.e., you can't code) its like "gaaahhhh!!! how do we make this move faster!!!" And one of the obvious solutions is "well of course throw money on it"

but then of course there's this

"We were in the jungle, there were too many of us, we had access to too much money, too much equipment, and little by little we went insane"

But yes, unfortunately we can't guarantee the many hodlers of Monero will donate to Core development. The dice incident is a sure indication that people would rather put their money where returns are tangible than into the blackbox of core development (hence the new funding mechanism) or the blind hope of a random developer.

I wish we could figure out the multisig thingy so we could make an "investment bond" or whatever. Wasn't there some time lock that could be useful?
hero member
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Those companies cost too much. I looked into it. It costs around 250 dollars (US) and I lost about 1 BTC worth. I might as well just start mining again. on the plus side, on a pool I mined 1 XMR since yesterday Smiley


My condolences on the loss of your drive and XMR.  Cry

Not to poo-poo on your XMR mining, but depending on your hardware, you might be better served mining on a multipool that pays BTC and then just buy XMR.
Maybe leave the CPU('s) mining Monero and point the GPU's at WestHash or something.

1 each of Geforce 750Ti and GTX 970 lately have netted me the equivalent of ~5 XMR  (~0.010 BTC) per day at current payrates, mining Quark algo at WestHash/NiceHash.

I leave the CPU to mine XMR directly. (C'mon MoneroHash -- find a block! [been 3 days])
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!



That sucks.  I lost btc that way.  Education Costs.  One way or another.  On the bright side, it is extremely unlikely to happen to you again!

Oh yeah. I backed up my new wallet onto a 2nd harddrive and onto my google drive. Now I hopefully wont loose anything.

Write down the seed words on a piece of paper and put it in a safe place. Hard to be more secure than that.

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!

Terrible news.

You might want to save the dead hard drive. If there is a "moon" event, taking a shot with an expensive data recovery service might be worth it.



Those companies cost too much. I looked into it. It costs around 250 dollars (US) and I lost about 1 BTC worth. I might as well just start mining again. on the plus side, on a pool I mined 1 XMR since yesterday Smiley

250 is at the low end of the range (there are various methods of recovery at different price points), but as I said, it would only be worth pursuing if the value of the lost coins goes up a lot (not now). Still, in your spot I would personally hang on to the drive and see what happens.
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!



FCUK!!! Sorry to hear that...that hurts... Shocked Undecided Lips sealed
Gladfully i am doing backups once a week and using some quality SSD´s  Cool
Man i feel sorry for you...

Be careful with SSDs. I bought a cheap OCZ Agility SSD. I cant afford any quality SSD yet, but plan on buying a Samsung 850 EVO or PRO (when i can afford it). I'm back to using a plain old 1TB western digital hard drive.
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!

Terrible news.

You might want to save the dead hard drive. If there is a "moon" event, taking a shot with an expensive data recovery service might be worth it.



I don't get it.  Can't he recover with seed?

I never wrote down the seed words. My wallet is from June or July of last year (2014). My stupidity.
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!

Terrible news.

You might want to save the dead hard drive. If there is a "moon" event, taking a shot with an expensive data recovery service might be worth it.



Those companies cost too much. I looked into it. It costs around 250 dollars (US) and I lost about 1 BTC worth. I might as well just start mining again. on the plus side, on a pool I mined 1 XMR since yesterday Smiley
hero member
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Just tried the latest version of CCminer with a nvidia 980 GPU. I'm getting ~400H/s mining XMR on a pool.
Does this sound about right? Is there a spreadsheet or something online which breaks down hashing speeds?

What link did you use to get  this?

No link, I just downloaded the latest miner saw the Hashes.
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
Update!!

Well I lost it all. My hard died on me. I was able to sync with bitmonerod (thanks for the help by the way). However, my .keys files went down with the hard drive... 534 Monero's!! almost a year worth of mining down the drain.

Well, i still have 1.5 KH/s worth of mining power. Back to the drawing board....

Word of caution to all - BACKUP/SAVE your stuff! Don't be me!!!



That sucks.  I lost btc that way.  Education Costs.  One way or another.  On the bright side, it is extremely unlikely to happen to you again!

Oh yeah. I backed up my new wallet onto a 2nd harddrive and onto my google drive. Now I hopefully wont loose anything.
hero member
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You mean clever like Evan? That's not coming back on his coin at all   Roll Eyes

Also, are you just ignoring ArticMine's FinCen observation or just don't understand that an IPO type launch could DOOM Developers who used this type of tactic to raise funds? I like my Devs free form controversy and governmental investigation. Your selfish-idealism may prove to be the bigger hampering to any long-term project in crypto.

Also, is the fact that the best, biggest and most successful cryptocurrency project was/is being carried out in the same manner as Monero lost on you? Bitcoin may have technological limitations when it comes to privacy and scaling, but the launch and development are the biggest success in an e-cash ever. Whatever works, works.
What Evan did was only clever in a short sighted, make a buck sort of way. I never advocated for an IPO. ArticMine's concerns are not valid under the circumstances I detailed. It would still look like donations, but in reality, it would bring in tens of times what the real donations did. Oh well, the past is the past.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud

Where in that post did I mention fairness?

I'll say it again. If you want a direct financial payback for your work, just buy coins, and then work to make them worth more. It's maybe "not fair" that you got in early and cheap, but I fail to see any reason that model doesn't work.

A desire to preserve fairness or live up to some lofty ideal are the only reasons I can see for the Monero team not having several hundred thousand XMR set aside for development. A clever individual could have found a way to acquire these coins, and then you could have even preserved the image by funneling them into the donation address. It is an anonymous coin, after all  Wink

You mean clever like Evan? That's not coming back on his coin at all   Roll Eyes

Also, are you just ignoring ArticMine's FinCen observation or just don't understand that an IPO type launch could DOOM Developers who used this type of tactic to raise funds? I like my Devs free form controversy and governmental investigation. Your selfish-idealism may prove to be the bigger hampering to any long-term project in crypto.

Also, is the fact that the best, biggest and most successful cryptocurrency project was/is being carried out in the same manner as Monero lost on you? Bitcoin may have technological limitations when it comes to privacy and scaling, but the launch and development are the biggest success in an e-cash ever. Whatever works, works.
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