[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 971.

TheKoziTwo

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Quote from: dewdeded on April 19, 2015, 01:23:02 PM

Please visit http://commons.xmr.biz/ and provide some feedback, so I know what is requested and how to improve.

I updated a bit since the first announcement. New: Audio & Podcast section, new presentation section and a working video section.

Please, please contribute content, so the page can provide benefits to the community. By really providing a media file archive, that makes all project-related media content freely & easily available for everybody to download or view. And being a common repository for the whole community, esp. people building Monero websites and services.

Links are ok, just point me to quality Monero content, so I can make it avaible, findable & usable to everyone. And the community and project can later benefit from having an common repository.

You can contribute or provide links in any way you like. (PM, IRC, GitHub & EMail) Every contribution is appreciated. GitHub repo is at https://github.com/xmr23/commons.xmr.biz

Now and in future, if you see good Monero content online and you think others in the community, can learn, benefit or just be interested in. Please make sure it gets added to http://commons.xmr.biz/, so it can later help Monero community members.

Great initiative!

XMR Logo PSD file + pngs
http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/IuPzJjGs/file.html

Luke, Monero Mascot PSD (I have no idea what license this one has though, you'd have to ask hitbtc):
http://www88.zippyshare.com/v/EI8qoNkE/file.html

Jojatekok

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Quote from: dewdeded on April 19, 2015, 01:42:34 PM

Looks like the limit is 50 MB.

Because: http://commons.xmr.biz/Audio/Podcasts/Listen_to_Bitcoin_Podcast-Ep202-With-Coredev-fluffypony.mp3 is 45 MB
and http://commons.xmr.biz/Videos/David_Latapie_@_FinTech_Open_Mic_Night_19th_March_2015_Paris.mp4 is 46 MB.

You are suggesting an upload formular? Or did I misunderstood you?

Thinking about it, its propably a good idea. I will add one. With more adoption not all users will have GitHub accounts & expierence. (Like today.)
Thank you.

Not sure whether you're already utilizing it, but GitHub LFS could be great in this case!

dewdeded

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Monero Evangelist

Looks like the limit is 50 MB.

Because: http://commons.xmr.biz/Audio/Podcasts/Listen_to_Bitcoin_Podcast-Ep202-With-Coredev-fluffypony.mp3 is 45 MB
and http://commons.xmr.biz/Videos/David_Latapie_@_FinTech_Open_Mic_Night_19th_March_2015_Paris.mp4 is 46 MB.

You are suggesting an upload formular? Or did I misunderstood you?

Thinking about it, its propably a good idea. I will add one. With more adoption not all users will have GitHub accounts & expierence. (Like today.)
Thank you.

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: dewdeded on April 19, 2015, 01:23:02 PM

Please visit http://commons.xmr.biz/ and provide some feedback, so I know what is requested and how to improve.

I updated a bit since the first announcement. New: Audio section, new presentation section and a working video section.

Please, please contribute content, so the page can provide benefits to the community. By really providing a media file archive, that makes all project-related media content freely & easily available for everybody to download or view. And being a common repository for the whole community, esp. people building Monero websites and services.

Add upload, Github has 10mb limit.

dewdeded

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Merit: 1011

Monero Evangelist

Please visit http://commons.xmr.biz/ and provide some feedback, so I know what is requested and how to improve.

I updated a bit since the first announcement. New: Audio & Podcast section, new presentation section and a working video section.

Please, please contribute content, so the page can provide benefits to the community. By really providing a media file archive, that makes all project-related media content freely & easily available for everybody to download or view. And being a common repository for the whole community, esp. people building Monero websites and services.

Links are ok, just point me to quality Monero content, so I can make it avaible, findable & usable to everyone. And the community and project can later benefit from having an common repository.

You can contribute or provide links in any way you like. (PM, IRC, GitHub & EMail) Every contribution is appreciated. GitHub repo is at https://github.com/xmr23/commons.xmr.biz

Now and in future, if you see good Monero content online and you think others in the community, can learn, benefit or just be interested in. Please make sure it gets added to http://commons.xmr.biz/, so it can later help Monero community members.

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Quote from: fluffypony on April 19, 2015, 11:54:11 AM

Quote from: generalizethis on April 19, 2015, 09:42:32 AM

Apparently the new smear campaign drk troll is running is that a private ledger has no value because it can't be audited. I explained (linked) the viewkey, but he insists that it still can't be audited and get this response (accounting yuck):

Every transaction involves two keys: a public spend key, and a public view key. The destination for an output in a transaction is actually a one-time public key computed from these two keys. The formula used for calculating this is: P = H_s(rA)G + B (where H_s is a hash function, r is a random, G is a basepoint, A is the public view key, B is the public spend key).

When scanning incoming transactions every transaction is scanned to see if is for "you". To do this, your wallet computes P' = H_s(aR)G + B (following the same definitions as before, except that a is your private view key, and R = rG, which is packed elsewhere into the transaction). Notice that this only requires your private view key and your public spend key, and this check is immutable and cannot be faked. You cannot receive transactions and identify them without the corresponding private view key.

In order to spend the funds you have to compute a one-time private spend key for that output using H_s(aR) + b (where b is your private spend key), so it's impossible to spend the funds without it. Literally that's all the cryptography you need to understand, but I guess when your aim is to deflect attention from an instamined scam it helps to call it a "mountain of cryptography".

From this we can also determine that it is possible to enumerate all the view keys, but as the key space is 2²⁵⁶ it's not possible unless you have more processing power than all the energy in the universe, and more time than the universe has existed.

The upshot of this is that an auditor only needs your private view key to identify all of your transactions. On the other hand, with Bitcoin and its clones you would typically need to sign every address you own (or for something like Electrum you'd be able to provide your master public key). In some ways the private view key is like the Electrum master public key, in that with both you can view every transaction for that account, and there's no way to fake that data. As with any audit, though, you could always have a second wallet for your secret transactions, but typically auditors would uncover that through other mechanisms.

The claim that the auditor has to "see the balances in the sending addresses" is ludicrous - if I, as a company, receive a payment from Microsoft Inc. do my auditors go and ask Microsoft for their bank balance?

Beautiful.

hodlmybtc

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A bit late to the party but happy bday Monero!

fluffypony

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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com

Quote from: generalizethis on April 19, 2015, 09:42:32 AM

Apparently the new smear campaign drk troll is running is that a private ledger has no value because it can't be audited. I explained (linked) the viewkey, but he insists that it still can't be audited and get this response (accounting yuck):

Every transaction involves two keys: a public spend key, and a public view key. The destination for an output in a transaction is actually a one-time public key computed from these two keys. The formula used for calculating this is: P = H_s(rA)G + B (where H_s is a hash function, r is a random, G is a basepoint, A is the public view key, B is the public spend key).

When scanning incoming transactions every transaction is scanned to see if is for "you". To do this, your wallet computes P' = H_s(aR)G + B (following the same definitions as before, except that a is your private view key, and R = rG, which is packed elsewhere into the transaction). Notice that this only requires your private view key and your public spend key, and this check is immutable and cannot be faked. You cannot receive transactions and identify them without the corresponding private view key.

In order to spend the funds you have to compute a one-time private spend key for that output using H_s(aR) + b (where b is your private spend key), so it's impossible to spend the funds without it. Literally that's all the cryptography you need to understand, but I guess when your aim is to deflect attention from an instamined scam it helps to call it a "mountain of cryptography".

From this we can also determine that it is possible to enumerate all the view keys, but as the key space is 2²⁵⁶ it's not possible unless you have more processing power than all the energy in the universe, and more time than the universe has existed.

The upshot of this is that an auditor only needs your private view key to identify all of your transactions. On the other hand, with Bitcoin and its clones you would typically need to sign every address you own (or for something like Electrum you'd be able to provide your master public key). In some ways the private view key is like the Electrum master public key, in that with both you can view every transaction for that account, and there's no way to fake that data. As with any audit, though, you could always have a second wallet for your secret transactions, but typically auditors would uncover that through other mechanisms.

The claim that the auditor has to "see the balances in the sending addresses" is ludicrous - if I, as a company, receive a payment from Microsoft Inc. do my auditors go and ask Microsoft for their bank balance?

generalizethis

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Facts are more efficient than fud

Apparently the new smear campaign drk troll is running is that a private ledger has no value because it can't be audited. I explained (linked) the viewkey, but he insists that it still can't be audited and get this response (accounting yuck):

Quote from: toknormal on April 19, 2015, 05:10:41 AM

No. It doesn't mean that because an auditor wants to verify the origin of the funds and therefore has to see the balances in the sending addresses as well.

Ever heard of "double entry bookkeeping" ? That alludes to the fact that there are two or more balances involved in a transaction, not one.

A great tribute to bitcoin's success as 'money' is the fact that their is public consensus that all the recent bitcoin "heists" of late (Bitstamp, etc) were in fact thefts and not somebody 'fooling the system'. That consensus is only achaived by virtue of the public blockchain and the fact that EVERY SINGLE ADDRESS is auditable. Not public by choice but public by force.

That is the very same consensus that gives the balance in an address its value - and thereby turns it into money.

Privacy is supported by the private blockchain. The phrase "public-private key encryption" alludes to the fact that one key is supposed to be public and the other private. In cryptocurrency therefore, we maximise the anonymity of the private key by maximising the fungibility of the public addresses - not my making them invisible but my making them more fungible, a very different thing.

You can't go burying the public blockchain in a mountain of cryptography.

What you've got is an encrypted bookkeeping system for banks. Go the Ripple route and try selling it to them Wink

The only info on the viewkey I can find is on the MEW site--is there more info available yet? Or did I miss something on the main site? A good ELI2.5 would be good to counter attack xdrkdashians.

I'd really like to have just a detailed link that I can attach; Toknormal's (and some of his colleagues) tactic is to start a blitz of criticism (some ridiculously inane) to exhaust their opponent--too many moving targets at once. I've learned to just restate their argument using humor and pointing to obvious fallacies without engaging any specific scenario (I don't ever indulge their hypotheticals; it gets real ridiculous real fast), but try limit them to their most inane assertion (there are many) and let people judge for themselves how ridiculous they sound. And if they cry about a point (instamine) I keep hitting it the way a general or a boxer hits on an opponent's weakness until the opponent quits or is defeated.

fluffypony

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Quote from: Zohann on April 19, 2015, 05:57:35 AM

I can't run bitmonerd in linux... can anyone point me to a fix? Or give a command line fix? TIA! - Zohann

"Address already in use" - I can't tell if those are multiple consecutive starts, but it looks like it's already bound to the address. You need to make sure it's not already running before you start, or something weird is going on:)

Zohann

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I can't run bitmonerd in linux... can anyone point me to a fix? Or give a command line fix? TIA! - Zohann

2015-Mar-31 22:44:22.565822 bitmonero v0.8.8.6-release
2015-Mar-31 22:44:22.565873 Module folder: /home/XXXXX/Downloads/bitmonerod
2015-Mar-31 22:44:22.566092 Initializing P2P server...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:25.561941 Binding on 0.0.0.0:18080
2015-Mar-31 22:44:25.562230 Net service bound to 0.0.0.0:18080
2015-Mar-31 22:44:25.562306 Attempting to add IGD port mapping.
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.566896 No IGD was found.
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.566998 P2P server initialized OK
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567045 Initializing protocol...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567076 Protocol initialized OK
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567105 Initializing core RPC server...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567146 Binding on 127.0.0.1:18081
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567304 Core RPC server initialized OK on port: 18081
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567355 Initializing core...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:29.567434 Loading blockchain...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:30.192838 bitmonero v0.8.8.6-release
2015-Mar-31 22:44:30.192907 Module folder: /home/asshat360/Downloads/bitmonerod
2015-Mar-31 22:44:30.193187 Initializing P2P server...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:33.843932 bitmonero v0.8.8.6-release
2015-Mar-31 22:44:33.843999 Module folder: /home/asshat360/Downloads/bitmonerod
2015-Mar-31 22:44:33.844287 Initializing P2P server...
2015-Mar-31 22:44:37.487423 Binding on 0.0.0.0:18080
2015-Mar-31 22:44:37.487660 ERROR /root/monero-build/contrib/epee/include/net/abstract_tcp_server2.inl:468 Exception at [boosted_tcp_server::init_server], what=bind: Address already in use
2015-Mar-31 22:44:37.487715 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/p2p/net_node.inl:311 Failed to bind server
2015-Mar-31 22:44:37.487750 ERROR /root/monero-build/src/daemon/daemon.cpp:239 Failed to initialize P2P server.
2015-Mar-31 22:44:37.487951 Mining has been stopped, 0 finished
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.169608 Blockchain initialized. last block: 499807, d1.h5.m5.s39 time ago, current difficulty: 934701648
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.832860 Core initialized OK
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.833100 Starting core RPC server...
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.833197 Run net_service loop( 2 threads)...
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.833981 [SRV_MAIN]Core RPC server started ok
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.834070 [SRV_MAIN]Starting P2P net loop...
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.871434 [SRV_MAIN]Run net_service loop( 10 threads)...
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.872786 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873057 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873128 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873187 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873262 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873315 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873376 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873420 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873461 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873502 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873543 Failed to read line.
2015-Mar-31 22:45:34.873583 Failed to read line.

macsga

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Strange, yet attractive.

Happy Birthday! I wish you all fellow XMR hodlers & traders a prosperous and joyful future. XMR is an idea worth investing in, it has a great community, devoted members and developers. I don't know if it grows bigger than BTC (that would've been awesome since I hold a lot more than my BTCs) but I believe it will soon be the 1st altcoin in capitalization.

A great "Thank you" to every developer and every member of this community for keeping this alive and bring it to our lives.

Happy Birthday XMR!!

Arux

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Happy birthday Monero!

Let us eat a troll to celebrate it!

elrippo

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Happy Birthday greetings!!! Grin

Keep on going strong Cool

e-coinomist

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Money often costs too much.

Quote from: GreekBitcoin on April 18, 2015, 07:37:40 PM

This is a good observation. Around the time monero was created there were 10 coins created per day. Some of them even bubbled but almost all of them today are nowhere to be seen. Monero bubbled a bit. Dumped a bit. And now seems in a good state. Lots of work to be done for sure and and from the community end too! But that observation with a few beers seems promising

Same feelings, arrived a tad late on the altcoin crazyness but seen many come, and go. The distinction is all about picking the ones who prevail.

Quote from: dewdeded on April 18, 2015, 11:51:20 PM

Monero Commons is a media file repository making available public domain and freely-licensed educational media content (images, text files and video clips) to all.
...
http://commons.xmr.biz/

Critical or vain endeavor, only time will tell. More and more people are gathering for a common sense.

Is it true there will be cake later? Is it true?

cryptonight.net

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Happy Birthday Monero!

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Monero is the opaque black pepper which complements the clear white salt of Bitcoin.

Both are needed on every dining table and in every kitchen. They do not compete, but rather accrue synergies with dynamic value propositions:

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complement, (kŏmˈplə-mənt)
n.
Something that completes, makes up a whole, or brings to perfection.

Lloydimiller4

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Monero

Just wanted to say Happy Birthday to my favorite cryptocurrency. XMR, you are the future. Grin

dewdeded

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Monero Evangelist

Monero Commons is a media file repository making available public domain and freely-licensed educational media content (images, text files and video clips) to all. It acts as a common repository for the various activities in and around the Monero Project. Everyone can easily contribute on GitHub.

The classic HTML view is http://commons.xmr.biz/ and media assets hosted there are allowed to freely hot-linked.
The GitHub repo to contribute and provide feedback is at: https://github.com/xmr23/commons.xmr.biz

From my POV it was a good idea to try this. If the community helps to collect all the best Monero content there, this media file repository could be a really valuable asset to the community.
Could be a big help, for people who want to support Monero (by doing a presentation, interview, creating a website, ...).
It can also be a good help in daily routine talking with ignorant or uninformed people, if u always have a HQ quality infographic at hand.
Like: http://commons.xmr.biz/Pictures/Infographics/privacy_matters.png

Please help by uploading useful XMR media files at GitHub or providing links to the material via PN or GitHub issues.

I am really interested in open feedback about this. I have more content (infographics, GFX stuff) I will add later.

luigi1111

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Live long and prosper.

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