[XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1087.

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Quote from: TrueCryptonaire on September 13, 2016, 03:15:38 AM

The biggest issue Monero has pricewise is lack of liquidiy. Sure there are decent amount of btc bidding XMR but it is not enough to catch the dumps. Bitcoin is currently fairly stable and actually is in nice bull run.
I hope the volatiliy will not harm the adaption. For me I do not care my stash, it is too small to care but I am more worried about the adaption.

How can you possibly have liquidity when the marketcap is only 130m and the coin is the second most traded since bitcoin? The trading/marketcap coefficient is 1/11, while in bitcoin is 1/70, in Eth 1/100 and in dash it is also 1/100. Only after 7-10 times increase in Marketcap or 7-10x decrease in trading volume the liquidity will get more stable.

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Quote from: Febo on September 13, 2016, 03:55:02 AM

Quote from: RayX12 on September 12, 2016, 07:39:13 PM

More adaption:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/52hmy3/dreammarket_adding_xmr_this_friday/

Apparently Dreammarket is second biggest so now two biggest markets use XMR.

Oasis is in TOP6.

So now we are waiting for finnish Valhalla and oldschool OutlawMarket and Hansa to add it to.

shh ... could also be photoshopped... dont make the animals wild before it is approved!

Edit: See it was fake.

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Quote from: Febo on September 13, 2016, 03:55:02 AM

Quote from: RayX12 on September 12, 2016, 07:39:13 PM

More adaption:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/52hmy3/dreammarket_adding_xmr_this_friday/

Apparently Dreammarket is second biggest so now two biggest markets use XMR.

Oasis is in TOP6.

So now we are waiting for finnish Valhalla and oldschool OutlawMarket and Hansa to add it to.

Its also important that the suppliers there accept monero.

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Quote from: RayX12 on September 12, 2016, 07:39:13 PM

More adaption:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/52hmy3/dreammarket_adding_xmr_this_friday/

Apparently Dreammarket is second biggest so now two biggest markets use XMR.

Oasis is in TOP6.

So now we are waiting for finnish Valhalla and oldschool OutlawMarket and Hansa to add it to.

TrueCryptonaire

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The biggest issue Monero has pricewise is lack of liquidiy. Sure there are decent amount of btc bidding XMR but it is not enough to catch the dumps. Bitcoin is currently fairly stable and actually is in nice bull run.
I hope the volatiliy will not harm the adaption. For me I do not care my stash, it is too small to care but I am more worried about the adaption.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 13, 2016, 02:53:04 AM

Quote from: coinism on September 13, 2016, 02:41:14 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 13, 2016, 02:05:42 AM

Quote from: coinism on September 13, 2016, 12:36:00 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 12, 2016, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 03:00:59 PM

Quote from: aminorex on September 12, 2016, 02:32:42 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 02:09:14 PM

It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.

Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome.

I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread?

I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too.

Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! Cheesy

The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me.

As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development.

These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!"

When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays.

Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.

I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.

infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead Roll Eyes

And right on cue, ^^^there's a moonchild from the failed BlackCoin pump, crying because he can't learn to use a CLI.

If coinism wants to ignore someone because of scam accusations from 2014 that ultimately went nowhere in Court, that's fine.

But he shouldn't presume to police the interactions of infofront.

Coinism is a noob that backed the wrong (black) horse, so I understand why insecurity compels him to challenge Monero elders.

So to make a point, I've left him negative feedback for pages of shameless, extensive BlackCoin (LOOL) pumping, scam site exco.in shilling, and "zomg XMR y u no have GUI" FUD. Wink

Looks like i hit the spot

you love to get personal with people and throw insults - that's not good, helps nobody. just makes you look childish and insecure. I've got no beef with nobody and certainly not going to spend anymore time on your negative responses. i try to stop people attacking others, especially new adopters of XMR. you assume too much.

Fact 1: most of your posts on BTCT are pumping the BlackCoin scam
Fact 2: you helped advertise the failed exco.in scam
Fact 3: you've been needling the XMR community about 'zomg where's the GUI we need it RIGHT MEOW' since 2014
Fact 4: you presume to tell others who they shouldn't interact with

Now say "childish" again, because I know that's your favorite personal insult. Enjoyed your well deserved negative trust.

I annoy those blackcoin shills, blk is dead, they lied too much, they are punished by God. Let's focus on XMR, ignore those BLK shills

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: coinism on September 13, 2016, 02:41:14 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 13, 2016, 02:05:42 AM

Quote from: coinism on September 13, 2016, 12:36:00 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 12, 2016, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 03:00:59 PM

Quote from: aminorex on September 12, 2016, 02:32:42 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 02:09:14 PM

It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.

Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome.

I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread?

I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too.

Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! Cheesy

The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me.

As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development.

These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!"

When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays.

Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.

I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.

infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead Roll Eyes

And right on cue, ^^^there's a moonchild from the failed BlackCoin pump, crying because he can't learn to use a CLI.

If coinism wants to ignore someone because of scam accusations from 2014 that ultimately went nowhere in Court, that's fine.

But he shouldn't presume to police the interactions of infofront.

Coinism is a noob that backed the wrong (black) horse, so I understand why insecurity compels him to challenge Monero elders.

So to make a point, I've left him negative feedback for pages of shameless, extensive BlackCoin (LOOL) pumping, scam site exco.in shilling, and "zomg XMR y u no have GUI" FUD. Wink

Looks like i hit the spot

you love to get personal with people and throw insults - that's not good, helps nobody. just makes you look childish and insecure. I've got no beef with nobody and certainly not going to spend anymore time on your negative responses. i try to stop people attacking others, especially new adopters of XMR. you assume too much.

Fact 1: most of your posts on BTCT are pumping the BlackCoin scam
Fact 2: you helped advertise the failed exco.in scam
Fact 3: you've been needling the XMR community about 'zomg where's the GUI we need it RIGHT MEOW' since 2014
Fact 4: you presume to tell others who they shouldn't interact with

Now say "childish" again, because I know that's your favorite personal insult. Enjoyed your well deserved negative trust.

coinism

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 13, 2016, 02:05:42 AM

Quote from: coinism on September 13, 2016, 12:36:00 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 12, 2016, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 03:00:59 PM

Quote from: aminorex on September 12, 2016, 02:32:42 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 02:09:14 PM

It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.

Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome.

I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread?

I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too.

Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! Cheesy

The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me.

As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development.

These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!"

When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays.

Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.

I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.

infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead Roll Eyes

And right on cue, ^^^there's a moonchild from the failed BlackCoin pump, crying because he can't learn to use a CLI.

If coinism wants to ignore someone because of scam accusations from 2014 that ultimately went nowhere in Court, that's fine.

But he shouldn't presume to police the interactions of infofront.

Coinism is a noob that backed the wrong (black) horse, so I understand why insecurity compels him to challenge Monero elders.

So to make a point, I've left him negative feedback for pages of shameless, extensive BlackCoin (LOOL) pumping, scam site exco.in shilling, and "zomg XMR y u no have GUI" FUD. Wink

Looks like i hit the spot

you love to get personal with people and throw insults - that's not good, helps nobody. just makes you look childish and insecure, like a 'trolling toddler' like some people in your trust summary have summarized you. I've got no beef with nobody and certainly not going to spend anymore time on your negative responses. i try to stop people attacking others, especially new adopters of XMR. you assume too much.

OrangeP

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I think the high volatility is slowing down Monero adaption.
If you are a vendor and accept Monero, chances are you lose xx% of your profits just by devaluation of the currency over night.

Bitcoin is "fairly stable" (in relation to other crypto) and provides consistency.

Consistency is what vendors love.

I think, as a trader, you have to be pretty patient and hodl for years.
We'll lose shortterm traders, volume and thereforce price in the next months.

(Note: I posted bullish statements a week ago and was wrong so...)

iCEBREAKER

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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.

Quote from: coinism on September 13, 2016, 12:36:00 AM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 12, 2016, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 03:00:59 PM

Quote from: aminorex on September 12, 2016, 02:32:42 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 02:09:14 PM

It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.

Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome.

I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread?

I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too.

Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! Cheesy

The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me.

As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development.

These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!"

When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays.

Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.

I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.

infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead Roll Eyes

And right on cue, ^^^there's a moonchild from the failed BlackCoin pump, crying because he can't learn to use a CLI.

If coinism wants to ignore someone because of scam accusations from 2014 that ultimately went nowhere in Court, that's fine.

But he shouldn't presume to police the interactions of infofront.

Coinism is a noob that backed the wrong (black) horse, so I understand why insecurity compels him to challenge Monero elders.

So to make a point, I've left him negative feedback for pages of shameless, extensive BlackCoin (LOOL) pumping, scam site exco.in shilling, and "zomg XMR y u no have GUI" FUD. Wink

bbc.reporter

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@elrippo. Can you give me the source of your data? I have been looking for that but I am unsuccessful in my search. Is your data straight from the darknet? If you are uncomfortable in giving out links in Tor you can pm it to me. Thank you.

elrippo

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Quote from: elrippo on September 01, 2016, 11:42:51 AM

I did a little research, because mostly this price surge is argumented with DNM's getting in the currency, which i still do not believe.

On Alphabay in median 1,9% 2737 are accepting XMR in drugs and chemicals from total 136877.
On Oasis in median 6,9% 264 are accepting XMR in drugs and chemicals from total 3813.

The last 0,018 hype on polo had over 100kBTC volume, with now residing somewhere at 0,014 with ~24kBTC volume.

So if 3001 vendors are responsible for over 100kBTC volume, every vendor in median had to have ~33BTC for playing wiht XMR, now somewhat around ~8BTC each if every vendor is actively trading --> possible but not likely.

Why, simply because these 100BTC to 800BTC buy walls would to have been built, in median, buy more than one vendor at the same time --> possible but not likely.

Even if, let's say 10% of the active vendors are actively trading with the new XMR (multiply the figures buy 10) which i still do not believe, this would be more unlikely to happen at the same time on the same place. The lending figures intensify my claim and theory of a single entity playing around and making the market to the contrary argument of "natural" growth Roll Eyes

Think about it Shocked

Alphabay in median 0,5% 750 are accepting XMR in drugs and chemicals from total 140685
Oasis in median 10,9% 448 are accepting XMR in drugs and chemicals from total 4080

Overall the vendors accepting XMR are declining Roll Eyes

coinism

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on September 12, 2016, 04:57:52 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 03:00:59 PM

Quote from: aminorex on September 12, 2016, 02:32:42 PM

Quote from: infofront on September 12, 2016, 02:09:14 PM

It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.

Got a pull request? Complaining accomplishes nothing. I think everyone understands the situation. If you can't contribute code, your dev fund contribution is quite welcome.

I have contributed to the dev fund. Can you please direct me to the thread where I can speculate about how the lack of basic UI features may affect the price? Perhaps a Monero speculation thread?

I understand the GUI gripes are tiresome (here's looking at you, N-rG). The "Fuck you. Go code a GUI." responses are getting old too.

Make stupid posts, win stupid responses! Cheesy

The more the bratty moonchildren pout about the lack of an Official GUI, the funnier it gets to me.

As if stomping their feet and repetitiously asking "are we there yet?" will speed up development.

These high time preference neurotypicals are like the Gavinistas, unwilling to wait for proper Layer 2 Bitcoin scaling and loudly demanding Something Be Done "Right Meow!!!!1!"

When I watch my friend's kids and they start being overbearing about a request, I tell them further nagging will result in penalty delays.

Despite being only a few years old, they understand instantly and stop whining.

I propose we cancel the GUI project entirely, to buy the community a few more precious months off putting of our Eternal September.

infofront, just filter out icebreakers childish response. Read his trust summary for entertainment instead Roll Eyes

freedomgo

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Quote from: Blazed on September 12, 2016, 07:57:05 PM

Quote from: Febo on September 12, 2016, 06:43:22 PM

@Blazed if you want to earn a lot or lose a lot there are many coins on Poloniex daily being pumped. You can get x3 or more a day. Or lose.

As a gambler you don't need to wait for ETH and Monero to play.

I am not a day trader by any means. I meant buying some coins and holding until someone pumps them up long enough for me to notice and sell. I do not follow alt coins enough to buy and sell daily/weekly... I will likely buy more XMR once the price calms down a bit.

So what price are we talking here to be considered as the calm price, honestly, I am a little bit worried about my investment because the price I bought is when XMR started to pump, do you think I should hold more until the price increase again or just sell it now?

cAPSLOCK

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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!

This...

Sure reminds me of this...

explorer

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 12, 2016, 09:39:57 PM

Is the current pump over and is it time for the next accumulation phase to begin? I speculate that this will go sideways in the current level now and an opportunity to buy more is coming. But the there is another argument that it could also go down and that it would be safer to wait and buy at lower prices.

The comments I have seen lately are mixed and cautious. So it might be better to be cautious too and place your bids maybe at 100k satoshis.

IF we see .001 again, I think it will be because the project is abandoned.

shmadz

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@theshmadz

Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 12, 2016, 09:39:57 PM

Is the current pump over and is it time for the next accumulation phase to begin? I speculate that this will go sideways in the current level now and an opportunity to buy more is coming. But the there is another argument that it could also go down and that it would be safer to wait and buy at lower prices.

The comments I have seen lately are mixed and cautious. So it might be better to be cautious too and place your bids maybe at 100k satoshis.

LOL 100,000 Satoshi? When price is now over 1.5 million Satoshi?

You're a bot, aren't you?

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Is the current pump over and is it time for the next accumulation phase to begin? I speculate that this will go sideways in the current level now and an opportunity to buy more is coming. But the there is another argument that it could also go down and that it would be safer to wait and buy at lower prices.

The comments I have seen lately are mixed and cautious. So it might be better to be cautious too and place your bids maybe at 100k satoshis.

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Quote from: shmadz on September 12, 2016, 09:22:11 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on September 12, 2016, 01:41:22 PM

Some modest but timely green shoots. A bottom @~0.016 would make a lot of sense considering the history on the chart and its starting to look like that's maybe what we saw @~0.0162. Cautiously optimistic.

Kudos. This is looking quite accurate., I'm still hopeful to grab a nice chunk at a lower level but it's looking less likely that I'll get that chance.

Volume and support are pretty thin, but from this point, unless in in need of emergency funds, sellers are not interested, despite there being a really impressive book of them. Not sure what will set it off, but there's still so much good news coming...

shmadz

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Quote from: Anon136 on September 12, 2016, 01:41:22 PM

Some modest but timely green shoots. A bottom @~0.016 would make a lot of sense considering the history on the chart and its starting to look like that's maybe what we saw @~0.0162. Cautiously optimistic.

Kudos. This is looking quite accurate., I'm still hopeful to grab a nice chunk at a lower level but it's looking less likely that I'll get that chance.

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