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legendary
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Shitcoin Minimalist
September 12, 2016, 02:09:14 PM
It's hard not to be disconcerted about the lack of a GUI after more than two years. I know it's coming "soonish", as it has been for 1+ years. However, at this point it's certainly holding back adoption at a time when adoption is poised to explode.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 12, 2016, 01:59:48 PM
I'm a bit afraid that the dev team made their cash and are not so much in business to develope the GUI.

I mean i could do this with java in 2 days. I dont unterstand whats their problem here...they have had now 2 years.

Another problem is that people get used to something. Look like whatsapp or facebook. They are used to use Bitcoin. As long that dealers on DN doesnt give discount its hard to make the people switch to XMR. Moreover the volatility atm is not so good for the coin. Dealers could loose 15% in 2 days. Thats not less.

But still, XMR is superior from every view. Only the people around/behind it are sometimes the problem.

So solve this:

GUI
Make XMR to a prefered currency

Alphabay did its job, now its on the people.

Please link us to your GUI to test in two days okay?

Thanks ahead of time.

Aloha!
sr. member
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September 12, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
Let me quote one of the big sellers on AlphaBay

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Well, I am almost 6 years strong supporter of Bitcoin and I would very glad to see bitcoin implementing Monero stealth features, which is very possible to do ! But when I am looking at decision makers in Bitcoin community in past year or two, where they can't even agree on scaling issues, where we are stuck on 7tx/s and full 1mb blocks with unconfirmed txs and raising fees, blocked with 50%+ majority of Chinese miners, these features will not come into BTC soon. So meanwhile it will be good to use also Monero.

Why ?

Because now, if we want to mix our coins, we need to deposit BTC into stealth exchange account, then buy (untraceable) altcoin, then deposit altcoin to our cashout exchange account and buy BTC, and finally sell for cash.

With Monero, you accept payment in Monero, deposit it into the cashout exchange, buy BTC, sell for fiat, done. It's faster, you don't need multiple accounts for deleting traces of crypto earnings. And I can see exchanges like kraken/bitstamp/coinbase catching soon on implementig XMR/FIAT pairs, because there will be demand and look how quick they implemented ETH & DAO pairs.

Moreover i also checked about monero in the market and the community.

The market is so so i would say. I'm just a cold analyst in that way. 40% of the Traders there accept Monero. Only very few give 10% discount at the moment.

There are already few users who complain already about the volatility at the moment.

If i had any contact with the alphabay owners i would advice to take no fee for monero to accelerate the transition from BTC to Monero. I guess with an good implementation of a GUI, maybe like Electrum BTC will be replaced by Monero. But its a way to go. The only think which makes me still skeptical are the people. As I said...when they are used to whatsapp(Bitcoin) the change is not easy. But i know whatsapp binding is far stronger by social reasons and monero is about security und speed.

Cheers

Edit:

I checked also out Stimulants -> 23171 offers. 560 accept Monero. Its only 2,41%
 
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https://assetsplit.org/
September 12, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
No i didnt mean it mean...i just meant that related to " phenomenal break out potential. " it doesnt matter if its 13 or 10 dollars atm. Just invest cause later WHEN the price it at 90 it doesnt really matter if you made 80 or 77

OK, gotcha, these are the same friends and acquaintances that would not buy bitcoin when it was 2 dollars because they thought it was going to zero, would not buy at 10 dollars because it was going back to 2 dollars.  Now that I think about it that way, I'm starting to think that if it (Monero) were to drop back to ten bucks they would probably be saying "I'll wait till it gets back to 50 cents"...

keeping this in mind I have to accept the fact that Mainstream acceptance will always be a lagging indicator, perhaps even a solid sell signal?

It's all good.  They'll FOMO later on, or buy some future dip.

Point taken, I'm sure when the price is 25 dollars they will be clamoring to get in at 20.  Wink

don't worry about it. The road to success is littered with dead bodies from people who did not have the courage or the brain to think for themselves. It is sad, but these people are exactly the reason that some of us can have this success. One advice though, do not try to sell them your ideas about crypto/monero.  You will only hurt yourself. They will only start thinking when someone on TV talked about it, and even then only a small portion will act on it. Occationally you will find people with a brain though, concentrate on them only.
legendary
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@theshmadz
September 12, 2016, 01:43:44 PM
No i didnt mean it mean...i just meant that related to " phenomenal break out potential. " it doesnt matter if its 13 or 10 dollars atm. Just invest cause later WHEN the price it at 90 it doesnt really matter if you made 80 or 77

OK, gotcha, these are the same friends and acquaintances that would not buy bitcoin when it was 2 dollars because they thought it was going to zero, would not buy at 10 dollars because it was going back to 2 dollars.  Now that I think about it that way, I'm starting to think that if it (Monero) were to drop back to ten bucks they would probably be saying "I'll wait till it gets back to 50 cents"...

keeping this in mind I have to accept the fact that Mainstream acceptance will always be a lagging indicator, perhaps even a solid sell signal?

It's all good.  They'll FOMO later on, or buy some future dip.

Point taken, I'm sure when the price is 25 dollars they will be clamoring to get in at 20.  Wink
legendary
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September 12, 2016, 01:41:22 PM
Some modest but timely green shoots. A bottom @~0.016 would make a lot of sense considering the history on the chart and its starting to look like that's maybe what we saw @~0.0162. Cautiously optimistic.
legendary
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dafar consulting
September 12, 2016, 01:17:21 PM
Not convinced that his is a return to the bullish uptrend


More like a bull trap before continuing downwards
sr. member
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September 12, 2016, 01:15:01 PM
No i didnt mean it mean...i just meant that related to " phenomenal break out potential. " it doesnt matter if its 13 or 10 dollars atm. Just invest cause later WHEN the price it at 90 it doesnt really matter if you made 80 or 77
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
September 12, 2016, 01:14:06 PM
It's all good.  They'll FOMO later on, or buy some future dip.
legendary
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@theshmadz
September 12, 2016, 12:49:09 PM
Pullback was not unexpected, was hoping for more actually. Targeting the 0.013 range. I have many friends that are newly interested in Monero and that $10 CAD / Monero seems to be a psychological "sweet spot" for them. They are less interested above that level.

Long term outlook has not changed, Monero still has phenomenal break out potential.

Thats kinda stupid. Expecting monero at least above 90$ soon and than argue with 50 cent from 10,50 to 10 xD

I think perhaps there is a communication breakdown here. At no time did I say I'm "Expecting monero at least above 90$ soon"

Currently Monero is above 13 dollars Canadian, all I'm saying is that I know people; living, breathing, actual people in the real world who are willing to put money in if the price drops back to ten bucks...

I'm extrapolating their enthusiasm to speculate that there may be others who feel the same way, and expanding on that, i am expecting some strong support at the 0.013 BTC level, which just happens to coincide with a CAD price of roughly ten dollars...

Hope that clears it up somewhat.
hero member
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September 12, 2016, 12:24:40 PM
Pullback was not unexpected, was hoping for more actually. Targeting the 0.013 range. I have many friends that are newly interested in Monero and that $10 CAD / Monero seems to be a psychological "sweet spot" for them. They are less interested above that level.

Long term outlook has not changed, Monero still has phenomenal break out potential.

Thats kinda stupid. Expecting monero at least above 90$ soon and than argue with 50 cent from 10,50 to 10 xD

What's kinda stupid?  I have 38.2 fib retrace at 0.0176 and the 61.8 retrace at 0.0120 so 0.013 wouldn't surprise me in the least. The recent  high at 0.0265 was ten times the price of just a couple of months ago and you expect it to just keep climbing?
sr. member
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September 12, 2016, 11:57:07 AM
Pullback was not unexpected, was hoping for more actually. Targeting the 0.013 range. I have many friends that are newly interested in Monero and that $10 CAD / Monero seems to be a psychological "sweet spot" for them. They are less interested above that level.

Long term outlook has not changed, Monero still has phenomenal break out potential.

Thats kinda stupid. Expecting monero at least above 90$ soon and than argue with 50 cent from 10,50 to 10 xD
legendary
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@theshmadz
September 12, 2016, 11:36:07 AM
Pullback was not unexpected, was hoping for more actually. Targeting the 0.013 range. I have many friends that are newly interested in Monero and that $10 CAD / Monero seems to be a psychological "sweet spot" for them. They are less interested above that level.

Long term outlook has not changed, Monero still has phenomenal break out potential.
legendary
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September 12, 2016, 11:02:31 AM
I can smell the bull attack. I suppose around Wednesday/Thursday we will see a significant rise up to the 0,020´s
If you hold some Moneroj bought around the 0,0175´s you will have some profit. Everybody else, i hope you sold at the 0,026´s

I somehow believe this will be one of the last artificial bullruns, after that we would need some serious interest to keep up the price. I believe we will fall after the bullrun below the 0,010´s in a quite short timeframe...  Roll Eyes
legendary
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September 12, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
Monero finally shows some signs of correction.
Short is running good so far.  Smiley
But I still see some potential for going down before building some resistence.
sr. member
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September 12, 2016, 08:50:55 AM
I refer to the official site: https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
September 12, 2016, 08:30:03 AM
You still don't get the point...maybe you dont understand or you dont want. NVM. Still the fact that a GUI by the core dev. is still missing. They only provide a simplewallet without a gui. You can ignore it, doesnt matter, as long as i know the facts for myself Smiley

What do you mean "the core dev"? Which of the 127 developers is "the core dev"? https://www.openhub.net/p/monero/contributors

Also, the lightWallet2 developer *is* a Monero developer, here's his most recent pull request: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/1053
sr. member
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September 12, 2016, 08:24:35 AM
I mean i could do this with java in 2 days. I dont unterstand whats their problem here...they have had now 2 years.

Great stuff, looking forward to seeing your work:) First release on Wednesday evening, shall we say?

Java is not setup per default in every OS. So it should be written in c++ -what still doesnt need 2 years.

i2p's router uses Java, seems to be just fine. Also I'll make your life easier, here's a Monero GUI already written in Java: https://github.com/jwinterm/LightWallet2

So just take that and add to it - looking forward to your release of the massively improved version on Wednesday evening!


perhaps you guys can work together? faster, better, stronger..
in all fairness it is a bit strange even in cryptoland that a coin that's been around for 2 years doesn't have an official GUI yet. Can't blame a person wondering about that.
The reason in the past for not having an official GUI was that the devs are too busy on the core. Would be great if there were more people interested in helping monero move forward and upward!
sr. member
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September 12, 2016, 08:19:05 AM
I mean i could do this with java in 2 days. I dont unterstand whats their problem here...they have had now 2 years.

Great stuff, looking forward to seeing your work:) First release on Wednesday evening, shall we say?

Java is not setup per default in every OS. So it should be written in c++ -what still doesnt need 2 years.

i2p's router uses Java, seems to be just fine. Also I'll make your life easier, here's a Monero GUI already written in Java: https://github.com/jwinterm/LightWallet2

So just take that and add to it - looking forward to your release of the massively improved version on Wednesday evening!

You still don't get the point...maybe you dont understand or you dont want. NVM. Still the fact that a GUI by the core dev. is still missing. They only provide a simplewallet without a gui. You can ignore it, doesnt matter, as long as i know the facts for myself Smiley
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