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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1288. (Read 3314316 times)

hero member
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May 31, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
GUI progress ?

Soon as always.

In my opinion, at some point we need a sub thread on how long is the patience of a Monero bagholder for the empty word "soon".
I think you are exactly the very right person to start that thread and discussion with the trolls.

Get lost please... your logic is so flawed and for everyone clear to see... if "soon" is an empty word for you why should you stay a bagholder, you are free to leave... the Dev Team does not owe us a thing, so if you don´t agree with their way of doing things... either sell your bag, fork it away and do better or just be silent.
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 01:07:57 PM
GUI progress ?

The GUI progress is out in the open for anyone to keep tabs on here. The dev is making regular progress.

https://github.com/mbg033?tab=activity
sr. member
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May 31, 2016, 12:25:52 PM
GUI progress ?

Soon as always.

In my opinion, at some point we need a sub thread on how long is the patience of a Monero bagholder for the empty word "soon".
I think you are exactly the very right person to start that thread and discussion with the trolls.

go away please. I am sure I am not the only one tiring of your thinly veiled trolling / shilling.

when it goes up Monero is the best thing since sliced bread for you (1 k, 10 k, 100 k etc etc yawn), when it's weaker you keep stepping on its head to fill your bags.

It's understandable but fucking annoying.
sr. member
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May 31, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
Bottom's up!
sr. member
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May 31, 2016, 12:15:04 PM
While very true for Bitcoin, this article is even more relevant for Monero. https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoins-market-cap-not-think/

Edit: Here is the main reference https://vinnylingham.com/deconstructing-the-bitcoin-market-cap-ce52b0d87035#.mh02k5qj9

I'm not following his math to get to $697, but I disagree with his view on mining = stock split.  A stock split does not affect market cap, but does affect individual share price.  Instead, mining is simply akin to a continuous offering, which will affect market cap, and also possibly share price, depending on whether the offering is dilutive or accretive.

The simpler comparison to account for the continuous issuance is to look at both price per coin / share, as well as total market cap, as shown many places, including coinmarketcap.com.

As for the lost coin, its anyone's guess.  But unless you assume there is increasing rate of lost coin over time, it shouldn't affect the comparability of periods.  In fact, I would argue lost coins have decreased over time, as people are more careful with bitcoin in the hundreds than when it was in the pennies and dollars.
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 11:12:31 AM
GUI progress ?

Soon as always.

In my opinion, at some point we need a sub thread on how long is the patience of a Monero bagholder for the empty word "soon".
I think you are exactly the very right person to start that thread and discussion with the trolls.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
May 31, 2016, 10:59:01 AM
While very true for Bitcoin, this article is even more relevant for Monero. https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoins-market-cap-not-think/

Edit: Here is the main reference https://vinnylingham.com/deconstructing-the-bitcoin-market-cap-ce52b0d87035#.mh02k5qj9
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May 31, 2016, 08:25:57 AM
Please support this Monero related I2P proposal by fluffyponyza. Only a few more  votes are needed before it joins Monero in the commitment state

http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/99297/i2p
full member
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May 31, 2016, 08:22:56 AM
GUI progress ?

Lots of progress with Mobile GUI options recently:

https://trello.com/minineroappsdevelopment
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 08:08:04 AM
GUI progress ?

Derp... stop trolling already LOL...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin Grin
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 07:45:29 AM
GUI progress ?
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 04:13:04 PM
"Bitcoin in Use: Zu Besuch in der Bitcoin-Stadt Arnheim" - Monero Mentioned

http://www.btc-echo.de/bitcoin-in-use-zu-besuch-in-arnheim/
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 01:05:04 PM
And losing your money by trusting a third party wouldn't make you feel stupid?  Really? ...

It wouldn't for Joe Average, because it gives him someone to blame. Lots of folks do not like hearing, "you have no-one to blame but yourself."
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 12:47:51 PM

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.

In crypto your dad can still have his privatekeys stolen if hes not carefull enough

At least then it's your own fault, and not completely out of your control and the fault of Target, Sony, etc.

And that is supposed to make it better? You get to lose your money AND feel stupid.

I think feeling stupid (and having the opportunity to learn from your mistake so you don't repeat it) could be better than feeling completely helpless and having no recourse to alter future outcomes.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
May 30, 2016, 12:16:39 PM

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.

In crypto your dad can still have his privatekeys stolen if hes not carefull enough

At least then it's your own fault, and not completely out of your control and the fault of Target, Sony, etc.

And that is supposed to make it better? You get to lose your money AND feel stupid.

And losing your money by trusting a third party wouldn't make you feel stupid?  Really? ...

But that money is usually insured, so not so dumb if you lack the capabilities, time, or desire to learn how to secure your own funds.

As long as Monero creates a better method for securing funds for the politically motivated and the technically capable, better protections should be created for those who aren't politically motivated to secure their own funds or who lack the technical capabilities to do so. In a libertarian's or crypto-anarchist's ideal world, everyone would both know how to do this and be willing to do so, but that's hardly the world we live in, so almost best methods will have to do for most people.
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
May 30, 2016, 11:52:19 AM

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.

In crypto your dad can still have his privatekeys stolen if hes not carefull enough

At least then it's your own fault, and not completely out of your control and the fault of Target, Sony, etc.

And that is supposed to make it better? You get to lose your money AND feel stupid.

And losing your money by trusting a third party wouldn't make you feel stupid?  Really? ...
legendary
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May 30, 2016, 10:34:19 AM

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.

In crypto your dad can still have his privatekeys stolen if hes not carefull enough

At least then it's your own fault, and not completely out of your control and the fault of Target, Sony, etc.

And that is supposed to make it better? You get to lose your money AND feel stupid.
legendary
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Merit: 1118
May 30, 2016, 10:19:29 AM

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.

In crypto your dad can still have his privatekeys stolen if hes not carefull enough

At least then it's your own fault, and not completely out of your control and the fault of Target, Sony, etc.
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May 30, 2016, 10:09:42 AM

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.

In crypto your dad can still have his privatekeys stolen if hes not carefull enough
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
May 30, 2016, 08:05:16 AM
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Grandma would probably use MyMonero over the core GUI (though maybe not for longer-term storage of value). That is a good example of third party solutions starting to specialize.

By "generic" user I didn't mean grandma but a wide base of all sorts of users without specialization, and that's where MyMonero fails to hold up. That includes people who see the primary use of crypto today and for the indefinite future as a store of value, medium- to long-term speculative investment, or perhaps as a medium of exchange that is somewhere between reasonably and very private. In all of those cases many won't want to use a web wallet.



I have to disagree here. People over the age of 55 were raised on cash and in many cases are very distrustful of third party payment providers and are very fearful of identity theft. They are also very privacy conscious. Furthermore they are far more likely to adopt the technology of their grand children than the technology of their children. For a senior the strongest appeal of crypto currency is likely its cash like properties, (cash one can use on the Internet) since that is their comfort level.  If they adopt a crypto currency it is highly unlikely that they will then turn it into the very thing they are trying to avoid.

As a baby boomer, my take is that the baby boomers can be a very receptive demographic for Monero, but I doubt we will buy in if we are sold the same technology we rejected 20 years ago.

My dad is in his 70's and has had his identity stolen 3 times! He hates having to use credit cards. That is one huge argument for crypto, everytime he has had his identity stolen it was a breach of a large chain store.
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