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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1598. (Read 3313576 times)

sr. member
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January 05, 2016, 10:48:00 AM
looking bullish to me right now. Orderbook is fattening close to market bids.

92 BTC to 100 k on the bid side, while the same 92 would bring it to 175 k.



sr. member
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January 05, 2016, 09:05:23 AM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

donator
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January 05, 2016, 04:27:30 AM
I really want to play a crypto-economy based game, but you will need to add some user friendliness if you hope to attract 10000 players. Smiley

Please take your (valid, IMO) feedback to the Crypto Kingdom thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-kingdom-1991-retro-virtual-worldcity-819073

Hopefully there it can reach the people most involved with the game and in the best position to address the concerns you raised.

Yeah. Please start from reading the thread, at least skim it through. It'll only take 2 hours and will make you much better versed in CK history and current play! The game is not shallow, and while we are in the process of adding ingame helps and Wiki, the game thread still is the most definitive resource Smiley

BUT, since I am the gamemaster (having access to your stats) and the King (willing to give liberally of my own), your WISH has been granted.

You have been gifted the following items:
- 100*VEG vegetables are good for food
- 100*BEER obviously for drink
- 100*CAN this brings wisdom

And some luxuries:
- 2*FOIE delicious and potent food
- 2*W1600M at least 21 years old healthy and precious wine

Since it's no fun to play without money, I decided to give 3 years (21 realdays') salary worth of money - 2,100,000 m. It is not that much in the outside world, only about $1, but in the game it buys you a lot of stuff, collectibles or consumables.

And a "lucky coin" 1*CS1621E after your starting year. It is not rare but the silver content is valued at about 800,000 m.

The Town has entry-level housing and is giving for free to those who need it (I managed one for you, Needle Lane 29 in 4-C-R3). The stone unit is 16 sqm and has a rooftop terrace as well. To be qualified, you need to be in level L3 Beginner, so this was arranged as well. This house might fetch 6-8 mil in the open market once the free distribution ends.

What you should do in the game right away is to familiarize yourself with health challenge (in the thread). Then you need a suit, for which there is a section in the Agora. Also log in to the game IRC channel in freenode (##crypto-kingdom) because most gameplaying happens there, only the commands are executed in Ultima platform. Getting to know the commands is of course the key to do anything.

Well, after 14 months of playing you may end up in the situation of our current Mayor, HH TMA Blessed Heroic Duke of North Face, TA Viscount of Forte Spagnolo, 2nd/I Bt of CK, Mayor, Councillor, CEO of TMA Grand Hotel & FluffyPony Horse Corp, AOK-S, RT-K, AOD-LTC, OD-K, KH, GJB, FBB, TB, KFB, HB: he is managing the Town, his vast household, fiefs, and corporations and the account is worth 50,000 XMR at liquidation value only.

He is glad to help, "SirJacket" in the IRC if you end up in there. I'd be happy to see you as well Smiley
legendary
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January 05, 2016, 01:54:35 AM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

I tried to play the game today.  I registered an account, and then couldnt even figure out how to do anything.  I can click on different spaces in the land, andthen there is nothing else I can figure out how to do.  My character has no stats or money, and there is no tutorial or anything telling me how to do anything, and no chat to ask for help.

I really want to play a crypto-economy based game, but you will need to add some user friendliness if you hope to attract 10000 players. Smiley

Please take your (valid, IMO) feedback to the Crypto Kingdom thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-kingdom-1991-retro-virtual-worldcity-819073

Hopefully there it can reach the people most involved with the game and in the best position to address the concerns you raised.
full member
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January 05, 2016, 01:30:34 AM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

I tried to play the game today.  I registered an account, and then couldnt even figure out how to do anything.  I can click on different spaces in the land, andthen there is nothing else I can figure out how to do.  My character has no stats or money, and there is no tutorial or anything telling me how to do anything, and no chat to ask for help.

I really want to play a crypto-economy based game, but you will need to add some user friendliness if you hope to attract 10000 players. Smiley
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
January 05, 2016, 12:13:30 AM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?

Until the GUI is done, the Official marketing schedule is limited to scoping and planning.

Of course informal word-of-mouth stuff shall proceed apace, especially now the DB is done and the RAM req is reduced to <100MB.
sr. member
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January 04, 2016, 11:38:46 PM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

I believe this is absolutely a legitimate goal but also interested in hearing more about the marketing plan. How will more users outside of the Monero community be introduced to the game?
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
January 04, 2016, 09:00:22 PM
GingerAle is referring to sell orders that are on the books. And he's right. If you dumped the required amount of BTC into Poloniex and did one massive market buy you would drive the price up to those levels. Keeping it there is another story, but you could drive it there and possibly keep it there for the 30-second duration of a Super Bowl commercial.



It would probably stay there longer than 30 seconds. With all of the KYC stuff with polo now, there's probably not quick money there. Add on top of that anyone buying monero from poloniex would have to move bitcoin to poloniex (if they hopped on the FOMO wave and if > 75% of existing traders adhere to the "don't keep your money on an exchange" ethos), so you've got 10-30 minute blocks to contend with. Time this market buy with a bitcoin "stress test"......

You're assuming that all the XMR already on Poloniex is on the BTCXMR order book already. It isn't. Once you drive the price up you will need an enormous amount of BTC to sustain it once that XMR starts finding its way there. The highest price XMR on the book now is 1@5000. Once you drive the price up to 5000 do you think there won't be 1000 XMR that wakes up and gets dumped almost immediately? You'd need 5 million BTC to absorb it. Not gonna happen.
legendary
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January 04, 2016, 08:32:53 PM
GingerAle is referring to sell orders that are on the books. And he's right. If you dumped the required amount of BTC into Poloniex and did one massive market buy you would drive the price up to those levels. Keeping it there is another story, but you could drive it there and possibly keep it there for the 30-second duration of a Super Bowl commercial.



It would probably stay there longer than 30 seconds. With all of the KYC stuff with polo now, there's probably not quick money there. Add on top of that anyone buying monero from poloniex would have to move bitcoin to poloniex (if they hopped on the FOMO wave and if > 75% of existing traders adhere to the "don't keep your money on an exchange" ethos), so you've got 10-30 minute blocks to contend with. Time this market buy with a bitcoin "stress test"......
legendary
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January 04, 2016, 03:57:13 PM
GingerAle is referring to sell orders that are on the books. And he's right. If you dumped the required amount of BTC into Poloniex and did one massive market buy you would drive the price up to those levels. Keeping it there is another story, but you could drive it there and possibly keep it there for the 30-second duration of a Super Bowl commercial.



I see. I wouldn't have known that.

The more I read about Monero the more I want to invest.
legendary
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January 04, 2016, 02:52:03 PM
GingerAle is referring to sell orders that are on the books. And he's right. If you dumped the required amount of BTC into Poloniex and did one massive market buy you would drive the price up to those levels. Keeping it there is another story, but you could drive it there and possibly keep it there for the 30-second duration of a Super Bowl commercial.

legendary
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January 04, 2016, 02:47:44 PM
Marketing is the weakness of Monero currently.
There is no marketing taking place...

...Monero is the internet's best kept secret and the community suffers from a serious lack of publicity and marketing. ...

I have felt this for quite a while. Clock's ticking, and all the advantages and strengths of Monero vis a vis other Cryptos are being appropriated by other technically inferior coins that have much better marketing. I feel bad for being so critical, when I myself am doing nothing to help the coin, but am hoping that someone with skills in the needed areas, skills which I do not have, will decide to do something before it is too late.

GUI. Smart mining. Please. Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

edit:grammar

GUIs - already exist. Anyone in normal space doesn't give a damn whether a GUI is official or not. My first bitcoin was managed through blockchain.info via coinbase. In fact, I never used a client / core software on my PC for bitcoin (and I bet this is true for 99.9% of the people that don't traverse bitcointalk). And I bet 99% of newcomers to monero will be quite satisfied with mymonero.com, which is equivalent to blockchain.info.

Smart mining - not going to really do much for marketing, IMO. More of a nice feature that boosts the fundamentals of the currency network.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for us hodlers) the easiest and most effective method of marketing would be market-by-moon. Using very curse and naive calculations based on numbers on poloniex, to hit 1 XMR = 2 BTC (which is a good moonshot, considering) would take 2557 bitcoin, or approximately 1.1 million USD.

So if you know anyone with 1.1 million USD to burn and wants to make a quick buck (because the FOMO wave that this would cause would probably allow enough liquidity and demand to make a tidy sum off of this kind of bubble), have at it!

For an even crazier moonshot, 9713 bitcoin would be needed, to drive 1 XMR = 5000 BTC, or 4.2 million USD.

For reference, a 30 second ad in the superbowl is 4.5 million USD.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31064972

In less than 30 seconds, (clicking some things on poloniex) you could blow 4.5 million on a very effective advertising campaign for monero.



How is this possible? 1.1M?

It would need a over a billion surely.
sr. member
Activity: 379
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January 04, 2016, 02:33:26 PM
Marketing is the weakness of Monero currently.
There is no marketing taking place...

...Monero is the internet's best kept secret and the community suffers from a serious lack of publicity and marketing. ...

I have felt this for quite a while. Clock's ticking, and all the advantages and strengths of Monero vis a vis other Cryptos are being appropriated by other technically inferior coins that have much better marketing. I feel bad for being so critical, when I myself am doing nothing to help the coin, but am hoping that someone with skills in the needed areas, skills which I do not have, will decide to do something before it is too late.

GUI. Smart mining. Please. Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

edit:grammar

GUIs - already exist. Anyone in normal space doesn't give a damn whether a GUI is official or not. My first bitcoin was managed through blockchain.info via coinbase. In fact, I never used a client / core software on my PC for bitcoin (and I bet this is true for 99.9% of the people that don't traverse bitcointalk). And I bet 99% of newcomers to monero will be quite satisfied with mymonero.com, which is equivalent to blockchain.info.

Smart mining - not going to really do much for marketing, IMO. More of a nice feature that boosts the fundamentals of the currency network.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for us hodlers) the easiest and most effective method of marketing would be market-by-moon. Using very curse and naive calculations based on numbers on poloniex, to hit 1 XMR = 2 BTC (which is a good moonshot, considering) would take 2557 bitcoin, or approximately 1.1 million USD.

So if you know anyone with 1.1 million USD to burn and wants to make a quick buck (because the FOMO wave that this would cause would probably allow enough liquidity and demand to make a tidy sum off of this kind of bubble), have at it!

For an even crazier moonshot, 9713 bitcoin would be needed, to drive 1 XMR = 5000 BTC, or 4.2 million USD.

For reference, a 30 second ad in the superbowl is 4.5 million USD.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31064972

In less than 30 seconds, (clicking some things on poloniex) you could blow 4.5 million on a very effective advertising campaign for monero.




Sorry, what? 1 XMR = 2 BTC for 1.1Million? That doesn't sound right.
legendary
Activity: 1456
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January 04, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

10,000 players, if each one has 100 Monero between, that is about 1 million Monero. The total number of monero is about 19M, so that is about 5% of total Monero.

Wait, so Monero's, basically, Crypto Kingdom in-game currency? Shocked

No, CK is just one of many services which leverages monero.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
January 04, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
Marketing is the weakness of Monero currently.
There is no marketing taking place...

...Monero is the internet's best kept secret and the community suffers from a serious lack of publicity and marketing. ...

I have felt this for quite a while. Clock's ticking, and all the advantages and strengths of Monero vis a vis other Cryptos are being appropriated by other technically inferior coins that have much better marketing. I feel bad for being so critical, when I myself am doing nothing to help the coin, but am hoping that someone with skills in the needed areas, skills which I do not have, will decide to do something before it is too late.

GUI. Smart mining. Please. Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

edit:grammar

GUIs - already exist. Anyone in normal space doesn't give a damn whether a GUI is official or not. My first bitcoin was managed through blockchain.info via coinbase. In fact, I never used a client / core software on my PC for bitcoin (and I bet this is true for 99.9% of the people that don't traverse bitcointalk). And I bet 99% of newcomers to monero will be quite satisfied with mymonero.com, which is equivalent to blockchain.info.

Smart mining - not going to really do much for marketing, IMO. More of a nice feature that boosts the fundamentals of the currency network.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for us hodlers) the easiest and most effective method of marketing would be market-by-moon. Using very curse and naive calculations based on numbers on poloniex, to hit 1 XMR = 2 BTC (which is a good moonshot, considering) would take 2557 bitcoin, or approximately 1.1 million USD.

So if you know anyone with 1.1 million USD to burn and wants to make a quick buck (because the FOMO wave that this would cause would probably allow enough liquidity and demand to make a tidy sum off of this kind of bubble), have at it!

For an even crazier moonshot, 9713 bitcoin would be needed, to drive 1 XMR = 5000 BTC, or 4.2 million USD.

For reference, a 30 second ad in the superbowl is 4.5 million USD.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31064972

In less than 30 seconds, (clicking some things on poloniex) you could blow 4.5 million on a very effective advertising campaign for monero.



100x or even 1000x more bitcoin would be needed to hit 1xmr=2btc.  With the price rising the sell orders would start appearing, the current order book is somewhat irrelevant when we are discussing a price which is so far away from current market price.
sr. member
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win lambo...
January 04, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).

10,000 players, if each one has 100 Monero between, that is about 1 million Monero. The total number of monero is about 19M, so that is about 5% of total Monero.
legendary
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January 04, 2016, 02:07:57 PM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.

Sir, what are the means/strategy to achieve this goal? I hope it is a legitimate goal, not a dream (without a good strategy and marketing it indeed is just a dream).
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1008
January 04, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
Marketing is the weakness of Monero currently.
There is no marketing taking place...

...Monero is the internet's best kept secret and the community suffers from a serious lack of publicity and marketing. ...

I have felt this for quite a while. Clock's ticking, and all the advantages and strengths of Monero vis a vis other Cryptos are being appropriated by other technically inferior coins that have much better marketing. I feel bad for being so critical, when I myself am doing nothing to help the coin, but am hoping that someone with skills in the needed areas, skills which I do not have, will decide to do something before it is too late.

GUI. Smart mining. Please. Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

edit:grammar

GUIs - already exist. Anyone in normal space doesn't give a damn whether a GUI is official or not. My first bitcoin was managed through blockchain.info via coinbase. In fact, I never used a client / core software on my PC for bitcoin (and I bet this is true for 99.9% of the people that don't traverse bitcointalk). And I bet 99% of newcomers to monero will be quite satisfied with mymonero.com, which is equivalent to blockchain.info.

Smart mining - not going to really do much for marketing, IMO. More of a nice feature that boosts the fundamentals of the currency network.

Unfortunately (or fortunately for us hodlers) the easiest and most effective method of marketing would be market-by-moon. Using very curse and naive calculations based on numbers on poloniex, to hit 1 XMR = 2 BTC (which is a good moonshot, considering) would take 2557 bitcoin, or approximately 1.1 million USD.

So if you know anyone with 1.1 million USD to burn and wants to make a quick buck (because the FOMO wave that this would cause would probably allow enough liquidity and demand to make a tidy sum off of this kind of bubble), have at it!

For an even crazier moonshot, 9713 bitcoin would be needed, to drive 1 XMR = 5000 BTC, or 4.2 million USD.

For reference, a 30 second ad in the superbowl is 4.5 million USD.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31064972

In less than 30 seconds, (clicking some things on poloniex) you could blow 4.5 million on a very effective advertising campaign for monero.

donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
January 04, 2016, 01:39:40 PM
Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

Unless Crypto Kingdom goes bust, XMR cannot go bust.

Instead of going bust, CK has a target of 10,000 players by the end of 2016.
full member
Activity: 188
Merit: 100
January 04, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
Marketing is the weakness of Monero currently.
There is no marketing taking place...

...Monero is the internet's best kept secret and the community suffers from a serious lack of publicity and marketing. ...

I have felt this for quite a while. Clock's ticking, and all the advantages and strengths of Monero vis a vis other Cryptos are being appropriated by other technically inferior coins that have much better marketing. I feel bad for being so critical, when I myself am doing nothing to help the coin, but am hoping that someone with skills in the needed areas, skills which I do not have, will decide to do something before it is too late.

GUI. Smart mining. Please. Before it is too late. If it is not too late already.

edit:grammar
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