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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 1650. (Read 3313576 times)

legendary
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November 05, 2015, 05:31:00 PM
 
  
I have extrapolated this statement to its logical conclusion.  I will now be supporting Monero exclusively through pencil-and-paper manual mining and physical snail mail from now on.  
  
Thanks for all of your suggestions and concern; I will look into possible memory problems and flash.  

Who said pencil-and-paper manual mining and physical snail mail as an alternative to Windows. There is GNU/Linux.
full member
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November 05, 2015, 02:23:37 PM
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I have extrapolated this statement to its logical conclusion.  I will now be supporting Monero exclusively through pencil-and-paper manual mining and physical snail mail from now on.  
  
Thanks for all of your suggestions and concern; I will look into possible memory problems and flash.  

Just make sure you know where that pencil came from...I've heard some of them are covered in viruses.

Given the fear mongering around here, I speculate this as the logical conclusion: Wink


hero member
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November 05, 2015, 01:17:30 PM
 
 
I have extrapolated this statement to its logical conclusion.  I will now be supporting Monero exclusively through pencil-and-paper manual mining and physical snail mail from now on. 
 
Thanks for all of your suggestions and concern; I will look into possible memory problems and flash. 
legendary
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Monero Core Team
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
November 05, 2015, 12:36:53 PM
I'm not gonna lie guys; ever since I got loudly and publicly involved in cryptocurrency a year ago, there's been no end to the digital fuckery I have experienced and suspected on my personal machines.  
  
I have a Windows laptop for internet browsing and games (no cryptocurrency activity on this machine), and even after a fresh install, within weeks it will inexplicably begin to stutter and pause before saving any file.  I run pretty solid Malware Bytes scans, MSE instances and a Firefox browser with ad-block and Noscript; I'm not a wizard, but I'm not a dummy.  There is no reason why a top-of-the-line computer that was reformatted a month ago should be stuttering randomly and lagging when doing things as simple as saving a picture off the internet.  
  
As well, my cell phone began about November of last year to pause randomly to lose (possibly hijack) the internet connection.  It shows pinging or 'upload' status in the network icon during these moments.  Attempts to use downloaded apps to figure out what IP addresses it's connecting to during these times have only resulted in gibberish or proxies.  This behavior persists no matter how many times I 'reformat' my phone.  
  
This is kind of shit is increasingly pissing me off - I have come to accept that if I become prominent in crypto I will likely end up getting monitored pretty hard despite being open and honest about my actions, but whatever backdoor nonsense is happening is actually affecting the performance of my computer which is ridiculous.  Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but also perhaps not.  
  
If you are reading this, your shit is weak and gives off tell tale signs of a system being compromised - get it together.
  
 Angry

Remove flash.
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 11:58:08 AM

I am dubious that a VPN company would be troubled by a cryptocurrency because it uses the command line!  Lol.

Hopefully you are just implying their objection was dubious and not doubting my reporting of it. I believe I forwarded this email to fluffypony so he should be able to confirm its authenticity.

Companies make decisions that they think will help the bottom line and not complicate the user experience. Obviously this VPN think an official GUI will make things easier for end users. Of course I mentioned existing alternatives such as our webwallet for non tech savvy users but some merchants want more. Personally I think those who adopt Monero early will benefit tremendously from the loyalty of Monero users eager to spend xmr at businesses that care about financial privacy.

I have no doubt that your reporting is accurate.

I just find it a strange reason for a company as technically deep an a VPN provider to give for a reason not to accept a certain cryptocurrency.  I think if a significant portion of their userbase would want to pay in Monero then they would take it.

If they choose not to take Monero I can think of several reasons before "there is no GUI" that make more sense.  Like "Not enough of our users would use it" for example.

If they were a T Shirt maker I would get the GUI thing.  But they are a company that works in the command line.

A VPN service is essentially an ISP. By default they will be far more sophisticated than their end users. "There is no GUI" = "We don't believe a significant number of our end users will use it and it's not worth an investment in time and support to integrate it until that changes."
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 10:44:25 AM
]Hey douche bags how about staying on topic ?
i should report half of you..

You douche bags are hanging around bumping this non stop to advertise with any half ass bs comment.

I wouldn't mind so much if you guys were actually discussing something to do with the coin
but your not.. your simply using this topic as a spam platform to bump.

Monero guys are the most irritating in all of crypto hands down !

You guys won't shut the fuck up for one single second and it reeks of severe desperation.

There is no way in hell most of us here could get away with this bloody bullshit either
If i had a Jackpot coin topic i spammed with friends to 550 pages i'd be banned and the topic deleted.


The above (which I deleted) contains no content relevant to the topic. Consider this a warning to stay on topic
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 10:02:19 AM

I am dubious that a VPN company would be troubled by a cryptocurrency because it uses the command line!  Lol.

Hopefully you are just implying their objection was dubious and not doubting my reporting of it. I believe I forwarded this email to fluffypony so he should be able to confirm its authenticity.

Companies make decisions that they think will help the bottom line and not complicate the user experience. Obviously this VPN think an official GUI will make things easier for end users. Of course I mentioned existing alternatives such as our webwallet for non tech savvy users but some merchants want more. Personally I think those who adopt Monero early will benefit tremendously from the loyalty of Monero users eager to spend xmr at businesses that care about financial privacy.

I have no doubt that your reporting is accurate.

I just find it a strange reason for a company as technically deep an a VPN provider to give for a reason not to accept a certain cryptocurrency.  I think if a significant portion of their userbase would want to pay in Monero then they would take it.

If they choose not to take Monero I can think of several reasons before "there is no GUI" that make more sense.  Like "Not enough of our users would use it" for example.

If they were a T Shirt maker I would get the GUI thing.  But they are a company that works in the command line.
sr. member
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November 05, 2015, 09:17:48 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

sure, it can be a task, but what is the execution? How is it done? And what is the end result? Unfortunately, I speculate the end result would somehow include "no GUI"  blah blah blah. But who knows. Maybe there's someone in the conventional media that would actually dig into monero to really see whats going on under the hood.

Media attention is needed now. The GUI may not come very soon. Here is one suggestion to deal with this objection
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3rd123/private_internet_access_send_this_vpn_an_email/cwn8zcp

I am dubious that a VPN company would be troubled by a cryptocurrency because it uses the command line!  Lol.

Hopefully you are just implying their objection was dubious and not doubting my reporting of it. I believe I forwarded this email to fluffypony so he should be able to confirm its authenticity.

Companies make decisions that they think will help their bottom line and not complicate the user experience. Obviously this VPN believes an official GUI will make things easier for end users. Of course I mentioned existing alternatives such as our webwallet for non tech savvy users but some merchants want more. Personally I think those who adopt Monero early will benefit tremendously from the loyalty of Monero users eager to spend xmr at businesses that care about financial privacy.
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 08:42:43 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

sure, it can be a task, but what is the execution? How is it done? And what is the end result? Unfortunately, I speculate the end result would somehow include "no GUI"  blah blah blah. But who knows. Maybe there's someone in the conventional media that would actually dig into monero to really see whats going on under the hood.

Media attention is needed now. The GUI may not come very soon. Here is one suggestion to deal with this objection
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3rd123/private_internet_access_send_this_vpn_an_email/cwn8zcp

I am dubious that a VPN company would be troubled by a cryptocurrency because it uses the command line!  Lol.

Really? I'll bet the vast majority of VPN users who do care about privacy are still not regular command line users. It creates a learning curve which creates friction which reduces the user base. I don't disagree with the priority set for core development, but there's no question that not having an easy to use GUI is an impediment to adoption. Not having a localXMR doesn't help either.

We've got moneroclub -> https://www.moneroclub.com/
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 08:37:18 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

sure, it can be a task, but what is the execution? How is it done? And what is the end result? Unfortunately, I speculate the end result would somehow include "no GUI"  blah blah blah. But who knows. Maybe there's someone in the conventional media that would actually dig into monero to really see whats going on under the hood.

Media attention is needed now. The GUI may not come very soon. Here is one suggestion to deal with this objection
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3rd123/private_internet_access_send_this_vpn_an_email/cwn8zcp

I am dubious that a VPN company would be troubled by a cryptocurrency because it uses the command line!  Lol.

Really? I'll bet the vast majority of VPN users who do care about privacy are still not regular command line users. It creates a learning curve which creates friction which reduces the user base. I don't disagree with the priority set for core development, but there's no question that not having an easy to use GUI is an impediment to adoption. Not having a localXMR doesn't help either.
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 08:33:55 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the ease in which Zerocash is able to court the media is telling. Given what we know now about CoinTelegraph, I sometimes wonder how much of "the news" is simply just PR. I saw this all the time in the early days of Bitcoin. Maybe there's nothing "renegade" about any of these coins at all and exist only because of political or financial connections with higher powers.

Media loves writing stories about controversial things like 'anonymous drug money' so it's no surprise that Wired or other mainstream news will want to write articles. Good press, bad press - it all gets clicks.

I want to see how the next round of funds zerocoin electric tries to raise is put together and who decides to invest. https://angel.co/zerocoin-electric-coin-company/followers
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 08:23:08 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

sure, it can be a task, but what is the execution? How is it done? And what is the end result? Unfortunately, I speculate the end result would somehow include "no GUI"  blah blah blah. But who knows. Maybe there's someone in the conventional media that would actually dig into monero to really see whats going on under the hood.

Media attention is needed now. The GUI may not come very soon. Here is one suggestion to deal with this objection
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3rd123/private_internet_access_send_this_vpn_an_email/cwn8zcp

I am dubious that a VPN company would be troubled by a cryptocurrency because it uses the command line!  Lol.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
November 05, 2015, 08:21:58 AM
I'm not gonna lie guys; ever since I got loudly and publicly involved in cryptocurrency a year ago, there's been no end to the digital fuckery I have experienced and suspected on my personal machines.  
  
I have a Windows laptop for internet browsing and games (no cryptocurrency activity on this machine), and even after a fresh install, within weeks it will inexplicably begin to stutter and pause before saving any file.  I run pretty solid Malware Bytes scans, MSE instances and a Firefox browser with ad-block and Noscript; I'm not a wizard, but I'm not a dummy.  There is no reason why a top-of-the-line computer that was reformatted a month ago should be stuttering randomly and lagging when doing things as simple as saving a picture off the internet.  
  
As well, my cell phone began about November of last year to pause randomly to lose (possibly hijack) the internet connection.  It shows pinging or 'upload' status in the network icon during these moments.  Attempts to use downloaded apps to figure out what IP addresses it's connecting to during these times have only resulted in gibberish or proxies.  This behavior persists no matter how many times I 'reformat' my phone.  
  
This is kind of shit is increasingly pissing me off - I have come to accept that if I become prominent in crypto I will likely end up getting monitored pretty hard despite being open and honest about my actions, but whatever backdoor nonsense is happening is actually affecting the performance of my computer which is ridiculous.  Perhaps I'm being paranoid, but also perhaps not.  
  
If you are reading this, your shit is weak and gives off tell tale signs of a system being compromised - get it together.
  
 Angry

Software-wise, I have about the same setup as you.  A few years ago I built a new computer.  This time, though, I ditched the Micron branded memory (I was having all sorts of problems with it) and went with G.Skill.  Also installed a 2nd gen SSD from Intel.  So for about 6 years now, this PC runs like brand new.  No issues really.  Rock solid.  So, like GingerAle has stated, you RAM may be bad.  Also, if you don't use an SSD as your primary OS drive, this is one of the best upgrades you can make.

Also, to stay on topic, I have noticed that XMR/USD is quite stable.  And on another tangent, I wonder if its really a good idea to base XMR speculation on USD rather than BTC.

+1. I have a 4 year old i7 desktop still running the same install of Windows 7. SSD boot drive, 8GB of crucial memory, Radeon 7970 (mined my first BTC on that puppy). It's not the NSA or Microsoft - it's either a hardware problem or a driver issue.

And yeah, XMR/USD is very stable and that can't all be due to mining since that's less than half of a low day of trading in volume.
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November 05, 2015, 07:59:54 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

sure, it can be a task, but what is the execution? How is it done? And what is the end result? Unfortunately, I speculate the end result would somehow include "no GUI"  blah blah blah. But who knows. Maybe there's someone in the conventional media that would actually dig into monero to really see whats going on under the hood.

Media attention is needed now. The GUI may not come very soon. Here is one suggestion to deal with this objection
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3rd123/private_internet_access_send_this_vpn_an_email/cwn8zcp
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 07:18:09 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

sure, it can be a task, but what is the execution? How is it done? And what is the end result? Unfortunately, I speculate the end result would somehow include "no GUI"  blah blah blah. But who knows. Maybe there's someone in the conventional media that would actually dig into monero to really see whats going on under the hood.
full member
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November 05, 2015, 07:14:34 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the ease in which Zerocash is able to court the media is telling. Given what we know now about CoinTelegraph, I sometimes wonder how much of "the news" is simply just PR. I saw this all the time in the early days of Bitcoin. Maybe there's nothing "renegade" about any of these coins at all and exist only because of political or financial connections with higher powers.
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 06:58:49 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

I think that XMR needs media attention before zerocash releases its first version. Journalists who care about financial privacy and zerocash should be kept informed about XMR as an (better and more practical) alternative to "experimental" zerocash.

Should it be a new task?
full member
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November 05, 2015, 04:21:03 AM
the upcoming release of zerocash is good news to all anonymous coins because it will spark a debate about the fungibility of bitcoin. i believe there are many people who have heard about zerocoin early on who will investigate and start thinking about this issue.

anonymity being one of the few real features and not just gimmicks in the world of cryptocurrencies.

hello to all new people who noticed that bitcoin is still very much alive. just imagine how much could an altcoin move!
legendary
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November 05, 2015, 01:52:48 AM

It is supposed to be created by a commercial company Zerocoin Electric Coin Company
http://www.bizapedia.com/de/THE-ZEROCOIN-ELECTRIC-COIN-COMPANY-LLC.html .

Since this is a USA company, NSA back doors and surveillance can be present. ANd why would it be made by a company? Why bitcoin ppl or just regular volunteers do it, like bitcoin was done?
 
  
The final nail in the coffin for zerocoin and the trumpet sounding the inevitable rise of Cryptonote coins IMHO.  I would not trust any zerocoin/zerocash protocol instanced by an entity in a country where backdoors are mandated in software and projects.  Sorry, still a proud patriot, but I do not love the surveillance state that has errupted in the past decades - it is an affront to the principals we founded ourselves on, and I say that as a law-abiding citizen with nothing to hide.

This.

Some relevant reading: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/julian-assange-debian-is-owned-by-the-nsa/

Also debian is planning to fully adopt systemd, that some argue is a giant potential backdoor (besides a clusterfuck) for the NSA/USG circumvent the Linux kernel.

Reason why I'll be moving to Slackware or BSD soon.

IMHO the next step (or already done) for NSA/USG is BIOS Backdoors in various devices. i dont think systemd is affected (i like it so i may be biased).

i am in the process of installing gentoo right now... together with qubes my two favorit distributions. (gentoo uses openRC by default; qubes is Fedora based)

I believe the risk with systemd is way overblown. It is after all FLOSS. As for BIOS the real issue is locked BIOS that forces the installation of operating systems signed by Microsoft.  This was done at the behest of the MPAA and other "big content" players such as the NFL, and not the US Government. The real culprits here are those that market DRM  "protected" content, not government agencies such as the NSA; however the NSA will of course take advantage of this. There is no need for back doors in the BIOS when there are already many back doors is Windows, especially Windows 10. 
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