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hero member
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21 million. I want them all.
February 23, 2015, 11:37:47 PM
Looks like XMR formed a triple top at around .00162. That's usually pretty bearish and indicates a reversal of an uptrend.

Again, talking about chart patterns when those three tops could be one or two people seems silly.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
February 23, 2015, 11:28:29 PM
This is my follow up on the TA for the Monero bear market. It is starting to look like a textbook case of a "failed" bear market with a truncated 5th wave and breakout out of a wedge on strong volume. This is actually a rare Elliot Wave pattern. The truncated fifth wave has all the normal sub wave but either does not extend past the 3rd wave or only barely extends past the 3rd wave. In this case an over lap between the 4th and 1st sub waves is allowed because of the triangle / wedge formation. It can be a very difficult pattern to trade because one can relabel the truncated 5th wave and 4th wave into an extended 4th wave bear market correction. http://ewminteractive.com/elliott-wave-patterns/ The indication here is for a significant chance of a sharp upward move.


Disclaimer: I may hold a position in XMR (Monero), XBT (Bitcoin) and / or NMC (Namecoin). This should not be construed as investment advice. Anyone considering an investment in crypto currencies should consult their investment, legal and tax advisers. Investment in XMR or other crypto currencies may lead to a complete loss of funds.

I really like ready your analysis's but I have no clue what your saying most of the time. Cheesy
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
February 23, 2015, 11:26:34 PM
But monero is so thinly traded...  Your analysis looks good, but it's too easy for even a single actor to make this current market happen.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
February 23, 2015, 11:23:36 PM
This is my follow up on the TA for the Monero bear market. It is starting to look like a textbook case of a "failed" bear market with a truncated 5th wave and breakout out of a wedge on strong volume. This is actually a rare Elliot Wave pattern. The truncated fifth wave has all the normal sub wave but either does not extend past the 3rd wave or only barely extends past the 3rd wave. In this case an over lap between the 4th and 1st sub waves is allowed because of the triangle / wedge formation. It can be a very difficult pattern to trade because one can relabel the truncated 5th wave and 4th wave into an extended 4th wave bear market correction. http://ewminteractive.com/elliott-wave-patterns/ The indication here is for a significant chance of a sharp upward move.


Disclaimer: I may hold a position in XMR (Monero), XBT (Bitcoin) and / or NMC (Namecoin). This should not be construed as investment advice. Anyone considering an investment in crypto currencies should consult their investment, legal and tax advisers. Investment in XMR or other crypto currencies may lead to a complete loss of funds.
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 09:43:35 PM
Or are people buying before Risto's clients do?

That is the plan, to give the opportunity to buy first to the people who know about Monero, and when the price is higher and there is more liquidity, then activate the wealthy guys.

Gotcha. It's interesting what the words of a rich man can do to the market Cheesy Out of curiosity what wallet do you guys use? I've been using the full bitmonerod wallet. Is there any reliable open-source good alternative for Windows?

LightWallet is open source (python) for Windows. It uses the either the same bitmonerod full node or a remote node but adds a GUI.

More info on wallets here: https://xmrmonero.com/news/choose-your-wallet
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
February 23, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
Someone dumped 38,000 monero around 0.0014, they have to be shitting bricks right now.

I don't know about that.  There is a good chance this was a profitable exit for a speculator.  25% gains are nothing to scoff at.  Also, this trader might keep a portion of Monero as longterm investment, but have no argument against realizing a 25% gain on speculative buys made made over the last month or so.
donator
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February 23, 2015, 09:16:27 PM
Someone dumped 38,000 monero around 0.0014, they have to be shitting bricks right now.

Not everyone in the market is a speculator. And if you now try to sell 38k, the price will go to 0.00128.

The rise looks strong, but can be shattered easily. Just as quite small buys also make big moves.
sr. member
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February 23, 2015, 09:10:01 PM
Or are people buying before Risto's clients do?

That is the plan, to give the opportunity to buy first to the people who know about Monero, and when the price is higher and there is more liquidity, then activate the wealthy guys.

Well I am glad I put entire paycheck to XMR a month ago. I hope XMR is going places.
legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
February 23, 2015, 09:04:25 PM
Someone dumped 38,000 monero around 0.0014, they have to be shitting bricks right now.
legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
February 23, 2015, 08:58:46 PM
Or are people buying before Risto's clients do?

That is the plan, to give the opportunity to buy first to the people who know about Monero, and when the price is higher and there is more liquidity, then activate the wealthy guys.

Gotcha. It's interesting what the words of a rich man can do to the market Cheesy Out of curiosity what wallet do you guys use? I've been using the full bitmonerod wallet. Is there any reliable open-source good alternative for Windows?
donator
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February 23, 2015, 08:55:24 PM
Or are people buying before Risto's clients do?

That is the plan, to give the opportunity to buy first to the people who know about Monero, and when the price is higher and there is more liquidity, then activate the wealthy guys.
legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
February 23, 2015, 08:49:31 PM
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Last Price
0.00161004

What is going on here? Is Risto already buying? Are people stoked about http://xmr.to ? Or are people buying before Risto's clients do?
sr. member
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February 23, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
So what's the goal for the latest price rise?
hero member
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February 23, 2015, 08:30:52 PM
I don't think there will be any serious resistance until we reach 0.002-0.003.

Most early XMR adopters are still underwater until that point, and after holding on to their losses for so long, they are not easily shaken.

There will likely be some profit takers from the long period of accumulation at <0.0015. Also, increasing price will create resistance from more miner selling (likely in the same sort of price range you suggest). If the price doubles the daily coins mined grows to around 10K USD. We don't know how much capital is actively stacked up trying to get in but 10K/day or 300K/month vs. 5K and 150K could be a very significant difference.

Even now, sustaining the price single-handedly would take quite a bit of capital:

$240/BTC * .0015  BTC/XMR * 17000 XMR emitted / DAY * 180 DAYS =  1.10 million dollars

Of course, it won't be single-handed. The market is quick to recognize a sustained uptrend, especially when other competitors such as LTC, BTS, DOGE, PPC, NMC remain in brutal bear trends. When one alt turns around, be it Ripple or Darkcoin, all eyes move to it, and the money follows. Others pile on. I think it will take far less than 1.1 million dollars to move the price up several multiples once the greater cryptocurrency community finally sees what XMR is. If you ask them today about privacy-coins, they can only name Darkcoin and Zerocoin, and they don't know the difference between them. They don't know what's going on. But they're going to find out. If there's one thing that speaks, it's money.

but Monero will need the added utility by that point in time to keep people in it.

for all these newcomers, if they ever come, the blockchain will still be in memory, mymonero.com will still need plenty of explaining to people and bounce a bunch of potential users

hero member
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21 million. I want them all.
February 23, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I don't think there will be any serious resistance until we reach 0.002-0.003.

Most early XMR adopters are still underwater until that point, and after holding on to their losses for so long, they are not easily shaken.

There will likely be some profit takers from the long period of accumulation at <0.0015. Also, increasing price will create resistance from more miner selling (likely in the same sort of price range you suggest). If the price doubles the daily coins mined grows to around 10K USD. We don't know how much capital is actively stacked up trying to get in but 10K/day or 300K/month vs. 5K and 150K could be a very significant difference.

Even now, sustaining the price single-handedly would take quite a bit of capital:

$240/BTC * .0015  BTC/XMR * 17000 XMR emitted / DAY * 180 DAYS =  1.10 million dollars

Of course, it won't be single-handed. The market is quick to recognize a sustained uptrend, especially when other competitors such as LTC, BTS, DOGE, PPC, NMC remain in brutal bear trends. When one alt turns around, be it Ripple or Darkcoin, all eyes move to it, and the money follows. Others pile on. I think it will take far less than 1.1 million dollars to move the price up several multiples once the greater cryptocurrency community finally sees what XMR is. If you ask them today about privacy-coins, they can only name Darkcoin and Zerocoin, and they don't know the difference between them. They don't know what's going on. But they're going to find out. If there's one thing that speaks, it's money.
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 07:52:27 PM
I don't think there will be any serious resistance until we reach 0.002-0.003.

Most early XMR adopters are still underwater until that point, and after holding on to their losses for so long, they are not easily shaken.

There will likely be some profit takers from the long period of accumulation at <0.0015. Also, increasing price will create resistance from more miner selling (likely in the same sort of price range you suggest). If the price doubles the daily coins mined grows to around 10K USD. We don't know how much capital is actively stacked up trying to get in but 10K/day or 300K/month vs. 5K and 150K could be a very significant difference.
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
I don't think there will be any serious resistance until we reach 0.002-0.003.

Most early XMR adopters are still underwater until that point, and after holding on to their losses for so long, they are not easily shaken.
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 07:14:34 PM
Over 33k moneroj bought in 10 minutes.  I wonder Grin  @ 0.00160 now

The HR has also gone up from what it has recently been.

I just received more btc just now, oh well Undecided
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
The break of the long downtrend:



Note: this is drawn from the 0.01 top, if you drew it from 0.0051 it broke as well.
legendary
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getmonero.org
February 23, 2015, 10:49:47 AM
Everybody is invited to prove me wrong in the field. To fire a bullet, enter any amount in the box and click SELL. That'll teach me  Cheesy

Someone seems to have accepted the challenge and dumped 30k-40k XMR  Smiley
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