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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 374. (Read 3314309 times)

legendary
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February 01, 2018, 07:42:24 PM
How do multisig xmr txs work? Do the people in the escrow know each others amounts being paid for a multisig spend? Ie a->b->c is there a way to not have c know how much a is getting or even who a is?

It works a lot like a shamir secret sharing scheme. Here you go watch this https://youtu.be/FRdGe9kNBRI?t=20m48s
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 04:52:54 PM
How do multisig xmr txs work? Do the people in the escrow know each others amounts being paid for a multisig spend? Ie a->b->c is there a way to not have c know how much a is getting or even who a is?
legendary
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February 01, 2018, 04:49:07 PM

I just shared my thaugts, that’s all

Your thoughts are always welcome. Smiley

Mine are just not that optimistic right now. And I really do appreciate all of you guys insights:)

We have been through far darker days than this.  Those who are here from way back are still here because they believed in the tech and knew the market was irrational, not Monero.

Monero has seen all kinds of stuff thrown at it, but is a fine, honest and tough coin.

Most here have held no matter what and if it seems we are optimistic, it's just because we know Monero. In the end always wins and is: totally respected, has wonderful tech, a huge real use-case and is fundamentally (due to the great devs and their hard work) anti-fragile.

Privacy is the ultimate feature for your money. This is what Monero offers. 

sr. member
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February 01, 2018, 04:29:44 PM

I just shared my thaugts, that’s all

Your thoughts are always welcome. Smiley

Mine are just not that optimistic right now. And I really do appreciate all of you guys insights:)
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
February 01, 2018, 04:22:32 PM

I just shared my thaugts, that’s all

Your thoughts are always welcome. Smiley
sr. member
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Merit: 258
February 01, 2018, 04:18:18 PM
do you guys think that BTCP (co-fork of ZCL and BTC) could have any impact on Monero? By impact I mean BTC holders that want to invest in a privacy coin could potentially prefer BTCP to Monero due to its name

Come back with some details.  How much premine? how much dev/marketing etc tax?  what emission curve?  Rich list? default privacy or opt-in? how large/active development team? How many actual full time cryptographers employed?  What company is backing it?  People 'investing' in it because of its name have little money, or soon will.  Looks like yet another (#30?) cash grab bitcoin fork, but I couldn't be bothered to waste my time looking it up.  Impact on Monero?  a small boost once a small percentage salvage a small part of their 'investment' and move it to Monero.  The con-men running the show will likely put profits to Monero also before they abandon their fork salad.

Add:

Since I tripped over it, I'll share this tidbit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7ud8bl/what_do_you_think_about_bitcoin_private/

So it's a fork of a scamcoin that the dev put a backdoor in and dumped by creating coins out of thin air! LMFAO I can't believe some retard would fork that shit! And whats worse is some retards are gonna buy it and get dumped on.

$243 and falling. Anyone scared yet?

I tried to get some usd on coinbase as it's the only portal I have right now but it's impossible now without doing the KYC shit. I'm probably the only one wishing for it to fall so I can get some. Smiley

Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

That’s true, I have seen that many times last 2 years. But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down. This could have a huge impact on all crypto future.


This is not unexpected at all, alot of use were calling this last month and a few of us were calling it back in Nov, have you not been listening or only listening to the posts that you want to hear?

Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?

Did bitcoin go down this much all the times xmr went down last year ?

No, it did not.

But it has done this before, maybe you're right, but I think crypto will survive this...

Of course it will, there is no doubt of this. The grey area is where the new floor will be and what alt will end up holding onto the highest gains. I bet you know which one I'm picking. Smiley


Let’s hope so. Its I risk I am willing to take Smiley. It would be nice to hear aminorix his opinion , or smooth or fluffy pony:)

Just Lol, you have no clue who to listen to do you?

We are near the ATH in bitcoin terms. Not too worried here. We just need that to recover somehow.


When eventually Monero is truly useful it will release itself from its BTC ratio, and climb (I believe).

Its happening gradually but for now we are well positioned as the good partner for BTC.




Dilly Dilly!

I just shared my thaugts, that’s all
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
February 01, 2018, 04:11:34 PM
do you guys think that BTCP (co-fork of ZCL and BTC) could have any impact on Monero? By impact I mean BTC holders that want to invest in a privacy coin could potentially prefer BTCP to Monero due to its name

Come back with some details.  How much premine? how much dev/marketing etc tax?  what emission curve?  Rich list? default privacy or opt-in? how large/active development team? How many actual full time cryptographers employed?  What company is backing it?  People 'investing' in it because of its name have little money, or soon will.  Looks like yet another (#30?) cash grab bitcoin fork, but I couldn't be bothered to waste my time looking it up.  Impact on Monero?  a small boost once a small percentage salvage a small part of their 'investment' and move it to Monero.  The con-men running the show will likely put profits to Monero also before they abandon their fork salad.

Add:

Since I tripped over it, I'll share this tidbit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7ud8bl/what_do_you_think_about_bitcoin_private/

So it's a fork of a scamcoin that the dev put a backdoor in and dumped by creating coins out of thin air! LMFAO I can't believe some retard would fork that shit! And whats worse is some retards are gonna buy it and get dumped on.

$243 and falling. Anyone scared yet?

I tried to get some usd on coinbase as it's the only portal I have right now but it's impossible now without doing the KYC shit. I'm probably the only one wishing for it to fall so I can get some. Smiley

Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

That’s true, I have seen that many times last 2 years. But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down. This could have a huge impact on all crypto future.


This is not unexpected at all, alot of use were calling this last month and a few of us were calling it back in Nov, have you not been listening or only listening to the posts that you want to hear?

Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?

Did bitcoin go down this much all the times xmr went down last year ?

No, it did not.

But it has done this before, maybe you're right, but I think crypto will survive this...

Of course it will, there is no doubt of this. The grey area is where the new floor will be and what alt will end up holding onto the highest gains. I bet you know which one I'm picking. Smiley


Let’s hope so. Its I risk I am willing to take Smiley. It would be nice to hear aminorix his opinion , or smooth or fluffy pony:)

Just Lol, you have no clue who to listen to do you?

We are near the ATH in bitcoin terms. Not too worried here. We just need that to recover somehow.


When eventually Monero is truly useful it will release itself from its BTC ratio, and climb (I believe).

Its happening gradually but for now we are well positioned as the good partner for BTC.




Dilly Dilly!
legendary
Activity: 2702
Merit: 2053
Free spirit
February 01, 2018, 03:27:04 PM
We are near the ATH in bitcoin terms. Not too worried here. We just need that to recover somehow.


When eventually Monero is truly useful it will release itself from its BTC ratio, and climb (I believe).

Its happening gradually but for now we are well positioned as the good partner for BTC.


full member
Activity: 346
Merit: 102
February 01, 2018, 02:44:52 PM
maybe.. lets see
Bitcoin, if we perceive it as an asset, has performed better than almost any other in the past 5 years. However, we can not foresee with certainty that the price will continue to rise.
jr. member
Activity: 40
Merit: 2
February 01, 2018, 01:56:04 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?

Did bitcoin go down this much all the times xmr went down last year ?

No, it did not.

But it has done this before, maybe you're right, but I think crypto will survive this...

Let’s hope so. Its I risk I am willing to take Smiley. It would be nice to hear aminorix his opinion , or smooth or fluffy pony:)

It's done it before and will do it again, hold onto your panties ladies, now is not the time to panic, just imagine if you had sold a chunk near the top you would be feeling pretty good now.

The fundamentals have not changed.

All Fluffyponza would tell you is to not invest in monero.

Just have faith in JM's rule of 5
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
February 01, 2018, 12:57:12 PM
maybe.. lets see
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 01, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
If we really are entering a bear market, I'm guessing it's going to be a quick one. More likely, it's just going to be a very turbulent (yet profitable) year in crypto.

This guy agrees: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29279653
hero member
Activity: 795
Merit: 514
February 01, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
There has to be uncertainty in the market, otherwise there would be no reason for people to panic Tongue

When BTC fell 80% after its December '13 high, it took over a year to reach the bottom.

It's barely February. If we really are entering a bear market, I'm guessing it's going to be a quick one. More likely, it's just going to be a very turbulent (yet profitable) year in crypto.
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 258
February 01, 2018, 12:23:00 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?

Did bitcoin go down this much all the times xmr went down last year ?

No, it did not.

But it has done this before, maybe you're right, but I think crypto will survive this...

Let’s hope so. Its I risk I am willing to take Smiley. It would be nice to hear aminorix his opinion , or smooth or fluffy pony:)
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 01, 2018, 12:20:37 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?

Did bitcoin go down this much all the times xmr went down last year ?

No, it did not.

But it has done this before, maybe you're right, but I think crypto will survive this...
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 258
February 01, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?

Did bitcoin go down this much all the times xmr went down last year ?
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 01, 2018, 12:13:10 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down.


How do you mean?
member
Activity: 200
Merit: 47
February 01, 2018, 12:12:35 PM
$243 and falling. Anyone scared yet?

Nah. Using Polo:


Current cycle:
ATH: 478
Current low: 237
-50.4%

Last September:
ATH: 144
low: 71
-50.7%

Last May:
ATH: 57.69
low: 24.1
-58%

Sept 2016:
ATH: 15.24
low: 4.19
-72.5%

Also that time we hit 63usd? Remember that one? Yeah we fell by like 53% then too.

Couldn't give af.

Last time I checked sovreignless digital internet money was still crypto's killer app. There are no other options out there.

If XMR ends 2019 below 1K usd I'll eat my dick.

Well said. The way I see it, the quicker BTC crashes, the better it is for XMR. Let it fall to 4k USD. We'll still see 500% of the low by March.

Why so sure? Smiley

Shorts need to close to be profitable Wink
sr. member
Activity: 362
Merit: 258
February 01, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.

That’s true, I have seen that many times last 2 years. But the dip now is different then all the others I think. The mothership is going down. This could have a huge impact on all crypto future.
hero member
Activity: 795
Merit: 514
February 01, 2018, 12:09:02 PM
Why so sure? Smiley

I'll be more sure when the trolls arrive. That's usually when the countdown begins.
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