Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 715. (Read 3314330 times)
Price is back to $48-$49 level already. But it was a bone head troll on us.
Alphabay will begin accepting Zcash starting July 1.
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As a black market entrepreneur, would you want to use a currency helmed by a group of professionals, or one helmed by an unstable, anarchist cypherpunk, who has a history of rocking the market for his own amusement?
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As a black market entrepreneur, would you want to use a currency helmed by a group of professionals, or one helmed by an unstable, anarchist cypherpunk, who has a history of rocking the market for his own amusement?
You are right and I remember it well, but the flaw in this analogy was that he wasn't saying Monero is crap and patently he doesn't (and we don't) think so. He was saying the likes of 'forthcoming announcements' (rather than working on good tech) is just crap - and to not expect this from him.
I get it, though I grant you that he could have made the point some other way given that hundreds of millions of dollars are involved.
Could he have though? I've seen this sentiment a lot since the troll job went down, but what evidence is there to support it?
He's said since day 1 that markets are irrational and don't get caught up in the pumpers games. To trust the tech not the personalities.
And yet still people are just here to ride the pumps. They don't care about the fundamentals. As evidenced by his "troll". If he could have gotten his message across some other way, well then this pump wouldn't have been as crazy as it was. By the very act that it happened it proves that this was the only way to really make his point.
A cryptocurrencies value is not in the personalities behind it. It is not in the pump potential. It is in the tech, plain and simple. People can be coerced, they can be manipulative, but the code doesn't lie.
You feel entitled, and that's why Fluffypony had to tie you to a stake and burn you to a crisp. A sacrifice, if you will, to the Goddess of Chaos and Irrational Exuberance (ie Hubris).
Monero obviously isn't for you. Dash, which it's emphasis on marketing and paucity of technology, seems a better fit.
If Fluffy and the rest of the team despises speculators then why can't they just work under the radar and let the technology speak for itself instead of constantly yacking on twitter and btctalk? There are LOTS of coins being developed that aren't being hyped and the devs aren't showman and because of it the price remains stable.
Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore
Was grade 3 the longest 10 years of your life?
Idiot.
You are idiot here, sir.
Go trust a coin where founder short 250BTC few minutes before announcements some big news
He knew monero was looking good now and for sure he was in need to pay soem debts hahaha
He didn't short shit. He has no reason to.
Yes - he clearly had no reason to make a lot of money in a very short time.
even if Moreno he crashed bitcoin. because the value of is very cheap. In 2018 is $ 100. most projects are so important and valuable, I think.
It's foolish and reckless, and possibly gives ammo to the trolls, yes. But from the guy who says 'Don't buy Monero' it is probably to be expected and since I really do believe he profited in any way - at least he hasn't sold his soul.
We should have known he wasn't the type to tweet an 'upcoming announcement' and he probably shouldn't have done it.
But it does make Monero a little different and it does teach us not to worship 'the great leader'. He isn't working for the price, he is working for the project and is not bound to please anyone. So we must bear in mind we cannot expect anything different in future
We should have known he wasn't the type to tweet an 'upcoming announcement' and he probably shouldn't have done it.
But it does make Monero a little different and it does teach us not to worship 'the great leader'. He isn't working for the price, he is working for the project and is not bound to please anyone. So we must bear in mind we cannot expect anything different in future
But... he likes being worshipped. My twitter feed is always full tweets by people worshipping him which he retweeted. And it's some of the biggest worshippers (WhalePanda for example) who benefitted from this because they had insider knowledge. So it was not his intent to change that, that's for sure.
Back to $50 
Nah, just Bitcoin price increasing.
I retract what I said yesterday about price recovering quickly. I didn't think much about the effects this would have except very shortterm. And if the altcoin bubble bursts, which can be any moment if it didn't happen already. This one is going down like all the rest.
Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore
Was grade 3 the longest 10 years of your life?
Idiot.
You are idiot here, sir.
Go trust a coin where founder short 250BTC few minutes before announcements some big news
He knew monero was looking good now and for sure he was in need to pay soem debts hahaha
He didn't short shit. He has no reason to.
@supremnoob I said read it. Not write here things you think are true. Read. there are answers on many your questions and assumptions.
OK let me take it out from text what answer your most recent question.
Monero dont do announcements, like other pump and dump coins does daily. Usually it is said, things will get here SoonTM But since project is open source, you can just go to github and you see exactly when something will happen. But for that you need to spend 10 minutes of your time and people here are just to lazy for that.
OK let me take it out from text what answer your most recent question.
Monero dont do announcements, like other pump and dump coins does daily. Usually it is said, things will get here SoonTM But since project is open source, you can just go to github and you see exactly when something will happen. But for that you need to spend 10 minutes of your time and people here are just to lazy for that.
A while ago I read someone said, very pithy, "Bitcoin Runs On Drama But Monero Runs On Comedy" 
After this last 'joke' by FluffyPony's fallen so flat, looks like we're gonna see how well (or poorly) Monero runs on DRAMA for awhile.
Srsly never a dull moment in cryptoland
After this last 'joke' by FluffyPony's fallen so flat, looks like we're gonna see how well (or poorly) Monero runs on DRAMA for awhile.
Srsly never a dull moment in cryptoland
Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore
Was grade 3 the longest 10 years of your life?
Idiot.
You are idiot here, sir.
Go trust a coin where founder short 250BTC few minutes before announcements some big news
He knew monero was looking good now and for sure he was in need to pay soem debts hahaha
Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore
what you mean? there is something wrong in code? You send 10 XMR and receiver get only 9? I see Monero fully trustful, at least when I least used it.
But FluffyPony send you a message yesterday. Go read it please. I suggest you to use it when looking at other "crypto" also. Oh here it is, so you dont search much for it.
Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore
Was grade 3 the longest 10 years of your life?
Idiot.
Monero is dead now. No one trust xmr anymore
What did Fluffy do exactly?
He promised a big news and delivered it. He did exactly what he promised.
Long term holders have nothing to complain about.
I disagree with this, infact I'd say its long term holders who are most effected. We're the ones whose capital has been tied up because we believe in the project/technology. We have waited through the good times and bad. But apparently thats not enough, we also have to tie ourselves in knots with this sort of cretinish behaviour.
Is it any wonder regulators and the like want to stamp down on crypto, we hardly provide a strong argument for self-regulation nevermind laissez faire.
If you are a long term holder or contributor to the technology the whole speculator scene affects you little if at all, unless you choose to pay attention to it.
Wow... How Zen of you!
I can't even articulate how irritating it is to be told that if we think this will decrease the value of Monero for the next n-months/years it's a problem with the way we think and to ignore the price.
People, get your heads out of the clouds this isn't Philosophy 101, this is real peoples money we are talking about and until we have an entire economy that can run on Monero, we still need fiat and price does matter!
Yeah, well if you are a supporter and long time hodler you will know what the message behind those statements is
I think I do, was chasing Monero before it was on Polo, I remember when the name was decided.....
Well, then sit back, have a cup of tea and wait for the bloodbath when BTC retraces --> weak hands = cheap XMR
I don't intend to wait until the bloodbath, I like to sell too early
XMR or BTC
A little sensible profit taking in both, after nearly five years? About now will be as good a time as any (other than 'too late' time), since if BTC does crash, I will kick myself. If it doesn't - and if it goes up more after, what I have left in the game will still bring me some benefit.
It's just trying to minimise tax that's the headache... I have come to the conclusion it's less complicated to just pay up, rather than wait until clever pension stuff is arranged, which I have just found could take longer than the BTC bubble might last.
EDIT: Quote tidy up!
That's all fair for me, as i am taking also some minor profits of my stash to have a nice vacation with my girlfriend
In the long term i see a nice house build of granit with a dojo build as a type of bungalow where every budoka is warmly welcomed
If you are a long term holder or contributor to the technology the whole speculator scene affects you little if at all, unless you choose to pay attention to it.
Very true, I only hold and don't day trade because holding has worked out great for me while short term trading (which I tried briefly) has only reduced my holdings but I do follow the current developments and charts and yesterdays proceedings did cause a little nervousness for me.
I have a friend, he only buys and holds and never looks at the charts. Every few month I call him and give him the good news.
If you are a long term holder or contributor to the technology the whole speculator scene affects you little if at all, unless you choose to pay attention to it.
WTB long term holder XMR
WTS speculator XMR
From your nickname it sounds like you have the right package, but don't put all your eggs in one er... basket
Yeah, well if you are a supporter and long time hodler you will know what the message behind those statements is
I think I do, was chasing Monero before it was on Polo, I remember when the name was decided.....
Well, then sit back, have a cup of tea and wait for the bloodbath when BTC retraces --> weak hands = cheap XMR
I don't intend to wait until the bloodbath, I like to sell too early
XMR or BTC
A little sensible profit taking in both, after nearly five years? About now will be as good a time as any (other than 'too late' time), since if BTC does crash, I will kick myself. If it doesn't - and if it goes up more after, what I have left in the game will still bring me some benefit.
It's just trying to minimise tax that's the headache... I have come to the conclusion it's less complicated to just pay up, rather than wait until clever pension stuff is arranged, which I have just found could take longer than the BTC bubble might last.
EDIT: Quote tidy up!
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