Topic: [XPM] Working on a GPU miner for Primecoin, new thread :) - page 24. (Read 166600 times)

Stop correcting other people imo

Soo lets get this straight.

Someones says Im working on a GPU miner for XPM, DONATIONS are accepted for early access.

Some people DONATE and are supportive.

Release date gets pushed back due to unexpected setbacks/real life issues.

More people DONATE

Someone shouts scam and the community goes bananas thinking scam not even bothering to read about the unexpected setbacks/real life issue.

Someone else decides they will build a miner, after 2-3 days they decide to give up because they struggled much more than they thought they would.

Update from Mtrlt says hes working on things, gives progress update, everyone excited again.

Mtrlt quiet for a couple of days, someone else decides its a scam, everyone goes bananas again.

Mtrlt closes first thread due to amount of bitching and moaning, moves all his updates to the new thread and posts new update.

Someone else decides this is a signal for a scam and decides to have a community built project and get it ready before Mtrlt finishes.

Community dont appear to know how to resolve various programs, whole project grinds to a halt (even though you have all these amazing programmers/coders in the community working on the project......)

Mtrlt posts info on last day for donations, the day comes, he sends the miner to all those that  DONATED

Beta week commences, but instead of people providing good feedback and letting him know what needs to be fixed, they decide its a scam!


Is that the be all and end all of it?


Look at what has actually happened.

At no point did Mtrlt say that the miner would be Faster than a CPU.

He has created a miner which Mines. granted i havent heard of a block being found yet, but i managed to find 2/3/4/5/6/7/8 chains yesterday so it is definitely doing what it is supposed to do.

So in my mind Mtrlt has done exactly what he has set out to do.

Be built a new miner and released it to those that DONATED

he has said it will be optimized in time, why not give him time to take in the lovely feedback you havent been giving him and let him do what needs to be done.


The reason he is using HP7 instead of HP10, is because if he kept changing the version he was trying to build on, it would be like starting to build a house and then after you have the foundations down and the bricks being laid you say, actually I dont like the colour of the foundations remove the bricks and put in a blue foundation instead!

Its ridiculas to think that he should be building the miner and constantly adding  in the updates from other projects when this is the first release!

Also something else about the HP10 - THATS VERSION 10!!!! IT HAD 9 OTHER VERSIONS EACH OF WHICH WAS A IMPROVEMENT ON THE PREVIOUS VERSION!

so compare the GPU miner to HP1 NOT HP10. 

When the GPU miner is in version 10 I bet its massively quicker than a CPU! but that takes time.

now he has a working miner and its being tested on multiple machines and its running into all kinds of problems he didnt expect THIS IS NOT A BAD THING, THIS IS A BETA!

Provide him with feedback, not abuse and im sure things will be resolved soon rather than later.

Either that or keep throwing your poop at him and watch when he says fine thats it i cant be bothered live with the current versions


Personal message to YipYip, If you are a programmer of over 20 years, you should know 100% that almost every program has glitches in the first release, when there has been limited time/resources to test it.  If you don't understand this then your claim of being a programmer for over 20 years seems a bit far fetched. You must know what a Beta is, Stop being a child and if you do have the experience you claim, why not offer help rather than calling him a scammer...

Also you spelt Plain wrong  


So in closing would everyone please chill out, the miner has been out for 24 hours, of course there are teething problems, but give him time to sort them out

All the best

Stuart


for those that are a bit confused about the Bold words in my post they are referenced here

DONATE
do·nate 
/ˈdōnāt/
Verb
Give (money or goods) for a good cause, for example to a charity.
Allow the removal of (blood or an organ) from one's body for transplantation, transfusion, or other use.

DONATION
do·na·tion 
/dōˈnāSHən/
Noun
Something that is given to a charity, esp. a sum of money.
The action of donating something.
Synonyms


DONATIONS
donations  plural of do·na·tion (Noun)
Noun
Something that is given to a charity, esp. a sum of money.
The action of donating something.

I got Reaper to compile under Ubuntu Server 13.04. I have to leave for school now though. I'll upload a new version once I get back.

GPU miner illusion for cheap: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/primecoin-gpu-miner-15mhs-on-ati-7950-286357
But, please wait a little bit until the Nigerian Prince learns from my valuable advise ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3070329)

+1

I can't believe more people aren't up in arms over this scam.

Don't forget to check out my Chicken Primecoin Miner!   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xpm-working-on-a-chicken-miner-for-primecoin-new-thread-286887

What he released was not even a POC ...so stop talking about things u have no idea about

From what has been explained to me about XPM performance it runs @ 5 PPS which is about 10% of an i7 CPU & this is 5 x 7950 rig

FUCKING AWESOME !!!!

Are you a fucking child have some respect ..I have been coding for 20 years moron!!

I understand what a SCAM is ... and this is what this was ... Pure & simple ..

That piece of junk that was released did NOT mine 1 block with  ~ 150 rigs running it

What about the "200% better performance than cpu's  on my 6990" ...lies lies & more lies  

No big deal... But the guy is a cunt plane & simple & should go work @ BFL

Explain to me what this means then.


It's not just the same as a CPU or just a tiny bit faster.  It's significantly SLOWER!


I took a risk that it might not be significantly FASTER than a CPU.  I didn't take the risk that he wouldn't even attempt to deliver on his word.

Because it's a beta...
You can't fix things if you don't know what's broken. That's the purpose of a beta...
Now there's a long list of things that are broken and should be fixed. Thankfully, it's  a beta....

I don't see anywhere in OP where he stated that he would guarantee his miner to be better than the CPU miner.

It was a risk that you took.

And no, I didn't donate because I had my suspicions that GPU's wouldn't be as godly as everyone thought they would be.

You should have done your homework before blindly giving your money away.

Sorry mate. You took a risk and it didn't pay out. Accept it and move on.

If his miner didn't outperform existing non-gpu solutions, HP10, why did he release anything?

Because instead being honest and saying, "Sorry guys, but what I've produced is worse than a cpu-only miner, so I'm giving everyone back their money.", he is releasing utter garbage and pocketing all the BTC.

A  GPU miner for XPM is hard to write. Performance, schedule, quality are all hard to estimate. It's called risk. Sorry your venture capital investment didn't get you what you want in the first release.

Obviously, neither of you paid for this piece of junk.

mlrlt says:
"How fast is the miner going to be?

Currently it's not really faster than a CPU. It'll be optimized in time, though."

This is a lie! It's SLOWER than HP10!

Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that he misled people?

More like he doesn't understand what a donation is.

You seriously don't understand what a beta is, do you?

Yeah I bet he'll give up his daytime job and start working on this piece of shit GPU miner lol

Yeah, I bet.  He needs to refund ALL the money that he collected for this garbage.

Hopefully he continues to improve and refine the gpu miner.  Until then, this will remain a cpu only coin it seems

This software is a joke.  HP10 outperforms it.

This is my conversation with mtrlt on #eligius-prime:

mtrlt, no offense, but your program is terrible
it's a beta, what did you expect?
not to mention, that others are giving it away for free
it has only been tested on my own hardware
I want my money back
you want a donation back?
yes
want all you want

and

I also didn't expect others to give it away immediately
and I knew it was going to happen instantly
Yet you still collected money for it?
it was _the reason_ I wanted donations
you can't get money after the fact
i've got some business sense
that's not being a businessman that's being a scam artist

We all should have paid mikaelh for hp10 instead.