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Topic: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion - page 3. (Read 16242 times)

sr. member
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I actually don't care about his personal problems and I actually wish people would leave him (or other people with personal challenges who pop up here from time to time) alone about it. There is a sadistic streak on this forum that comes out where certain people want to "beat up the special kids" whenever they can. It isn't admirable.

Whatever challenges john-conner faces I hope he gets the help he needs and/or otherwise manages to reach some state of happiness and peace in his life.

But he ripped people off. Why shouldn't they be a little bit pissed off?

He was ostensibly using the money from our altcoin ecosystem to ply his drug habit.

I care. I have observed drugs ravage my family.

It bothers me that we are legalizing pot in the USA. And that the culture in the West condones smoking pot even amongst teenagers, as if it is no big deal.

I also wish he will find his happiness, but not at the expense of lying and misleading others to feed his problems.

I hope he can use his talents in a constructive way. He is at critical juncture nearly 40. My 40s were wasted on turmoil. I very much doubt he will receive the wake up call, but I hope he does of course.

I am not judging because what ever he wants to do is his own business. But if he rips off the public, it is our and the SEC's business. And I can also relate how I wasted my 40s and hope he doesn't.

It is much harder to code in the 50s (well I don't know what it would be like if I wasn't chronically ill, but still seems it gets much more difficult). If he only realized how little time he has remaining on the peak production of his career.

What I am saying from experience is that once you slide a little ways into forsaking ethics, the abyss awaits you because it is a slippery slope. I almost received the wake up call too late. Almost. And I am really struggling to climb out of a hole. He may not realize how his life can spin out-of-control if he doesn't arrest that pattern.

(as you know, I have been on the receiving end of that sadistic ridicule. But didn't I ask for it. Albeit my illness caused me to be in the situation where I would post more than code)
legendary
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to be honest it still doesn't bother me that he copied a few lines of code

It was never a few line of code. There were (multiple) entire significant modules that were identified as refactored (i.e. copied and reformatted). This does not mean that other parts were not also copied, it just means that no one went to trouble to compare and identify all of the copied code. Why should we do his work for him? It is his job to cite the copied portions, no matter how much or how many, not hide them.

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Why re-write DirectX or OpenGl? Game devs use it all the time.

That's because the licenses allow it and if you look in the copyright notices for just about any game you will see the required attributions and license notices for the redistributable code. Game devs who use redistributable components don't claim to be geniuses who implemented them from scratch.

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Now I agree his CHARACTER of not attributing that or admitting it is the problem. But still I say this all has nothing to do with the code it has everything to do with the man's honesty, character, and psych issues.

I actually don't care about his personal problems and I actually wish people would leave him (or other people with personal challenges who pop up here from time to time) alone about it. There is a sadistic streak on this forum that comes out where certain people want to "beat up the special kids" whenever they can. It isn't admirable.

Whatever challenges john-conner faces I hope he gets the help he needs and/or otherwise manages to reach some state of happiness and peace in his life.


sr. member
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It is unfortunate that an apparently expert enough coder in his prime productive age of 30s has pissed away his talent because of drugs and the effect that has had on his ability to integrate with society.

I would attribute all of his failure to the use of drugs. This probably causes his social paranoia and poor choices.
legendary
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damn what a shame. I liked vcash.
legendary
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Looks like John Connor of Vanillacoin/Vcash/XVC got finally exposed. (thanks to "thelion07). The scammer's name is Julian Cain, although some are not 100% sure.


Now, to expose this scumbag even further:

1 - His twitter page does not exist anymore:





2 - Not only that, but his linkedin page was also closed.






3 - Fortunately, i have managed to get some info from his Twitter and found out this (from 2009):




He was tweeting/retweeting about drugs  Smiley






4 - Now let's head over to Slack: (This conversation is from 10th of August 2016)

This is just a small sample, but trust me, this guy knows his drug shit better than the p2p protocols he's worked on.





5 - Now, even more data:









6 - Additionally, some articles from the internet with our friend JC (Julian Cain, John Connor)


http://bit.ly/2g0C4J0
http://bit.ly/2g8YzyJ
http://bit.ly/2gE0onE
http://bit.ly/2gRbYcS
http://bit.ly/2gRbYcS


Received this from user "newfnd"






It's HIM




The scumbag is done!

"Thank you for your support  Cool"

legendary
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I did say this as quoted, "But he is arrogant, stubborn, makes up his own theories and realities sometimes, bans a lot of good people from twitter, hasn't doxed himself or promoted his project yet."

SO I was concerned about his character. And to be honest it still doesn't bother me that he copied a few lines of code, it happens all the time. Why re-write DirectX or OpenGl? Game devs use it all the time. Now I agree his CHARACTER of not attributing that or admitting it is the problem. But still I say this all has nothing to do with the code it has everything to do with the man's honesty, character, and psych issues.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
legendary
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EVERYONE knew John Connors personality was an issue. It was no secret, and I'm not defending and never did defend his personal traits. I've always said the guy puts out top code but thinks he is Einstein or Steve Jobs. Meaning "Hey I'm a genius coder and the best so I can be an @sshole to everyone like they were."  Well in crypto or any business, you need to have some social skills and be nice to at least the right people at the right time, and he obviously can't do that.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
the "mods" still delete in the original Thread...

Aren't they cute, acting like they have dev talent sufficient to replace John Conman?

Isn't it adorable how they can't figure out how to have their "community takeover" cake and eat it too, because the Vcash name is toxic and its codebase is compromised?

After defending John's code theft, etc. now they all suddenly conveniently realize he was a actually a liability all along...

 I can't wait for BadTrash.sx to launch his Definitely Not Vcash ICO.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




And Icebreaker, yes I admit I lost a few btc on XVC, but I still hold a little just in case.
I will not change my opinion on the coin and code being good, fast, scaleable, and would make a great
currency for immediate transactions, which is what bitcoin sorely needs.
I will admit, and always have, that John Connors personality (or if a group their personalities) was the only
problem and thing hindering the coin. John went out of his way to make enemies instead of friends, was a
poor communicator, etc. While I think most community take overs or new devs usually don't work out,
if Vcash gets a new good dev that can understand and use the code and further develop it, as well as being
a nice guy and smart enough to get people for marketing and PR, then Vcash could have a good future, but
that is a lot of ifs. Getting rid of Johns toxic behavior may be the best thing for Vcash in the long run.

IOW, you've learned nothing from the Vtrash debacle.

Le Sigh.

Funny how you didn't make your problem with John Conner explicit until it was safe, moot water under the bridge to do so.

The delusional Vtrash community takeover people right now:

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leaking all info
John deleted the official vcash forum and now redirects to a different, old forum.

This reminds me of the equinox dev some time ago:




And to the guy who is the moderator of the unofficial, moderated xvc thread: When will you finally stop deleting posts in the thread, when will you be man enough to face the truth that John dumped and when will you wake up. You're not better than John by covering his back.
Are you that naive?  Do you not know that is Emilio Mann using a domain name registered to John Connor?

Emilio ? Hmm.. I wasn't aware he was actually moderating the thread, I thought he is/was a clever guy.. Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

There are 4 people with the password moderating that thread.
I never deleted a post from you.




EMILIO is JHON ?

Nope
I am your father

via Imgflip Meme Generator
legendary
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Ocminer the coin/code was good. The dev is severely psychologically damaged and not getting help. Its sad and a shame, Vcash could have been the next huge coin with real use. But despite what all the crypto nerds want to believe, a man's character is more important than his code. Because without honesty, communication, and a good character, you can never win over people, make friends, business associates, and make your code into a successful and real project.
legendary
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Posting this here for reference as the "mods" still delete in the original Thread...







FUBARed

Dun Dun, Dun Dun, Dun Dun





Let's see if you now still attack me and tell me how good XVC is...
legendary
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#mitandopelomundo
John deleted the official vcash forum and now redirects to a different, old forum.

This reminds me of the equinox dev some time ago:




And to the guy who is the moderator of the unofficial, moderated xvc thread: When will you finally stop deleting posts in the thread, when will you be man enough to face the truth that John dumped and when will you wake up. You're not better than John by covering his back.
Are you that naive?  Do you not know that is Emilio Mann using a domain name registered to John Connor?

Emilio ? Hmm.. I wasn't aware he was actually moderating the thread, I thought he is/was a clever guy.. Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

There are 4 people with the password moderating that thread.
I never deleted a post from you.




EMILIO is JHON ?

Nope
I am your father
full member
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Who's Emilio Mann?  What domain name is he using, and for what uses?

Is the guy in the photo Emilio Mann?  Or is Emilio Mann the Equinox dev?  Or is Emilio Mann the moderator of the Unofficial XVC thread?

Emilio Mann is the moderator of the Unofficial XVC thread

Why is it important that his name is Emilio Mann?  Does he have a shady history?

as far as i'm aware, emilio mann is just a investor... He supported vcash from the beginning and later he had a "fight" with john connor because of a payment gateway and sell most of hist coins to buy decred.
maybe he is john connor, but i've never seen any proof of that... nothing plausiable.
newbie
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John probably been pressured by some senior bitcoin community criminal.
He's is anon for a reason. Maybe someone got to him and he freaked out?
Maybe he's being threatened? Worst - being held hostage?
Maybe the zeroslot thing pissed off some online casino owners and that's why he panic launched it and got out of sight?
Maybe he's closing a deal with some online casino for the zeroslot and just busy?
Maybe he's coding, listening to Metallica and showing the finger to the world while he continues to build his legacy?

The truth is, like with Satoshi, "it doesn't fucking matter", the code speaks for itself and this coin is not going anywhere.
legendary
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I've also mentioned the code theft a few days before he closed the forums and left completely and I got threatened via PM by some fanboys..

Surprising community..
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Mazz admits that Vcash is a "well planned con" and he "doesn't want to have anything to do with it anymore". Well... I have respect for people who have the courage to admit that they were wrong. I hope you'll get to the bottom of it and find the truth.  Wink




This is glorious.

All those who were defending John Conner and attacking those of us who were warning others about him just got exactly what they deserve.

The Hillary-level amounts of hubris and nastiness possessing Vcash scam defenders just got BTFO.   Cheesy

Who is "John Connor"?

Does anyone actually know?

Good question.

We're looking for a good coder that's a cranky temperamental druggie and also writes in perfect college level English.

I think John Conner is Wolf0, who repeatedly told us in an ironically strenuous manner all about why and how much he didn't care about the issues with Vcash code theft, while simultaneously scolding us for having the temerity to cry fraud when we saw fraud.
hero member
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Who is "John Connor"?

Does anyone actually know?

legendary
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I agree, he'll probably buy back the coins and then suddenly "reappear" and says he found an investor and continue the work.. People will re-buy and in a year -> same shit again.

Here are facts about some more flaws in the code, he can turn them on and off at anytime he likes to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VanillaCoin/comments/3b25f6/welcome_to_the_uncensored_vanillacoin_subreddit/

Oh and as I've heard some folks were believing Johns claims that my pool was having an issue with an open p2p port - there were NO issues at all with my pool(s) - never. P2P ports are the ports which coins are using to communicate with each other - they are supposed to be open, otherwise you cannot have connections to the network, RPC ports are the ports where commands are sent to the daemons, those remain unexposed.
Also see: https://twitter.com/RNR_0/status/804295519350755328

Also I'd advise NOT to use the moderated threads as most legit / true posts are deleted there. This Thread is unmoderated.
legendary
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Who's Emilio Mann?  What domain name is he using, and for what uses?

Is the guy in the photo Emilio Mann?  Or is Emilio Mann the Equinox dev?  Or is Emilio Mann the moderator of the Unofficial XVC thread?

Emilio Mann is the moderator of the Unofficial XVC thread

Why is it important that his name is Emilio Mann?  Does he have a shady history?

He's involved long term with XVC or former Vanillacoin, I'm just disappointed that he covers John and also deletes normal critcism or legit posts from the "official" thread - people don't get the whole picture if he does that, he's not better than john at all now. I've also PM'ed him directly - no answer.
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