Topic: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion - page 5. (Read 16231 times)

Straight up trolls are bad but so is blatant censorship, which happens in the vcash forum and moderated thread.  posts get deleted unless they are something along the lines of "yay, vcash is the best!!!11!!1   hodl!!!"

Just created an unofficial Vcash facebook fan group. Click below to join !!!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1835848506633458/

Vcash


Welcome to the official community topic of Vcash. This topic is moderated by the Vcash community members.

Vcash is a cryptographic currency that is not a clone of any other project. It is designed to be innovative and forward-thinking. It prevents eavesdropping and censorship, promotes decentralized, energy efficient and fast network transactions by use of irrevocable contracts and provides opt-in client-side anonymity. It has no pre-mine, pre-sale, IPO, ICO or BS.

Specifications:

30.7 million coins.
Variable block time targeting 80-200 seconds.
128 coins per block initially.
Difficulty is retargeted every block.
Blake-256 Proof-of-Work algorithm.
0.7% interest rate by use of energy efficient Proof-of-Stake.
0.0005 coin per kilobyte transaction fee.

Whitepaper:

http://v.cash/papers/vanillacoin.pdf

Wallets:

http://v.cash/wallets.php

Exchanges:

Bittrex: https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-XVC
Poloniex: https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xvc
RAWX: https://beta.rawx.io/#/markets/BTC:XVC

Projects:

https://github.com/john-connor/

Proof-of-Work Mining/Coin Distribution

http://pool.v.cash/
http://vcash.miningpoolhub.com/
http://xvc.maxminers.net/
http://xvc.suprnova.cc/

Ledger Explorer:
 
https://explorer.v.cash/
https://www.blockexperts.com/xvc/

Developer Announcements:

Development Team ANN: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1064326

Social:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/vdotcash
Forum: https://v.cash/forum/
https://v.cash/slack/

Disclaimer: This project is considered "beta" and is in an ever-changing state. This said, it moves rapidly and keeping up with the evolution is not easy. The best channel for up-to-date information is through the "official" forums. Anything posted on BCT or elsewhere regarding changes to this project's current state should not be considered unless also confirmed through the "official" forums.

Thank you for your support




I'll add the official threads info here.  Please add this to the front page smooth.   If you really want this to be an unmoderated announcement page you should at least start it off with the appropriate information.

@ Bitcoin Carpenter:

Does it matter where Vcash is vetted?

In a free speech environment, you may of course chatter and name call, but everyone can see you do it.

John-Connor updates on his/her own censored threads are just that -- censored.

So the question on deck is: when will John-Connor admit or explain how and why Bitcoin code is/was part of Vcash?

Why not just admit it -- if it's true? Admit that he/she used Bitcoin code. Copied it. Stripped away information that could have verified this and failed to indicate such?

I'm not saying the guy isn't a fantastic coder, but he/she could be a fake, just as easily.

And if he is a genius coder, why not dump all Bitcoin Code and make something truly remarkable?

Bitcoin has it's problems. CryptoNote is not perfect. What's next?

On a side note to your earlier post, it is laughable to consider this thread as an announcement thread when there is clearly no information about vcash written anywhere in the original post.  Veiling smooth's contempt for John-connor behind some altruistic argument of censorship is ridiculously.   Smooth only created this thread as a way to distract the bitcointalk community.
Maybe he should have called this thread AN UNMODERATED DISCUSSION ABOUT JOHN-CONNOR AND MONERO'S PISSING MATCH....
of which I'm sure smooth and the gang would clearly win being that the monero trolls dominate bitcointalk through shear repetitive will.
Not saying it's a bad strategy when used to create price manipulation and promotion, but in the end I think very few groups have done more to damage the crypto reputation on the whole.

I have no problem with moderation in announcement sections of bitcointalk.  So often this section is used by full troll/shills drowning out every useful piece of information posted there.

Altcoin discussion is the place for unmoderated threads.

Smooth opened this thread as an avenue for his monero nation to keep repeating their same comments, for the purpose of drowning out John-connor announcements.


The link I posted is just the link to the weekly updates that John is working on or has completed and has nothing to do with moderated/ unmoderated conversations.

@EmlioMann:

Understand that these vcash supporters are repetitive, but you tell a lie long enough and it can carry the weight of truth.
That, and not responding, is losing automatically by default.
It's an ongoing battle.

You will find me in the last "digital" ditch.

Just stop responding to these trolls from monero community, please.
They insist that lie for over a year and never change.
"ohhhh XVC has a code of 50 000 lines and about 10 lines are similar to the btc code, my God, run to the hills!"
The monero community is made up of a bunch of trolls and morons, everybody knows it.
XMR was artificially pumped, now is being hard dumped and they need to divert attention to something else
Gmaxuell is a liar sociopath, a scammer, any currency that could threaten the btc as vcash can, he declares a dirty war against it.
Gmaxuel lied about lightning network, which in reality is nothing more than vaporware because it is centralized. Here's the proof: http://i.imgur.com/FCqIBSM.gif
None of these guys can be taken seriously.
Please stop responding to these children and morons.

@bitcoin carpenter:

How can anyone take vcash seriously if we can't discuss it in an un-moderated (uncensored) thread?

Smooth just opened a thread and does not delete posts.

And vcash has allegedly copied code -- violated copyright -- according to Gregory Maxwell (credible witness) and other anonymous users of this forum.

How can anyone trust vcash if they appropriated the hard work of others, even in part, without so much as an admission?

Simply because Poloniex trades in vcash does not legitimize it.

Are there other credible expert public witnesses who can verify that vcash/vanillacoin did not violate copyright/failed to acknowledge that they "borrowed" the code of others?

Simply directing us to censored threads under vcash's direct control is clearly inappropriate, to say the least.

We like the freest speech possible.

But that being said the best place to learn about vcash is
https://v.cash/forum/threads/weekly-updates.366/page-2#post-7543

The weekly update thread.

I'm always amazed when I come to bitcointalk to check on vcash to find its only smooth sitting in here answerring questions..

You all know that he has been an opponent to vcash from the beginning don't you

Actual announcement thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xvc-vcash-official-community-thread-zerotime-anon-auto-block-size-1504342

With the Greg Maxwell report, plus the deletions by Vcash on other threads and the attitude of John-Connor...

Mind made up.

Non-anonymous Greg Maxwell (gmaxwell on here) posted about some of it. I think some of the others who likewise posted (including possibly those quoted in the link reachable from my forum trust review of john-connor) may also be non-anonymous. Reliable? Who knows. It seems everyone in crypto is either a hero or a troll depending on who you ask.

I don't know if Coindesk has covered ever Vcash. If they have it quite likely would be a paid submission, and I say this not as a slam on Vcash but because Coindesk generally doesn't cover any of the smaller coins unless they are paid for it. (http://www.coindesk.com/press-release-submission/about/)

Are there any independent witnesses of the non-anonymous type?

Credible verification from reliable sources?

Can anyone point me to a good link, legit review from CoinDesk etc.

The many sites I perused just regurgitate the Vcash party line.

It clearly did. Some people care, some don't. Make up your own mind.

Was this inquiry ever settled?

Did Vcash (formerly Vanilla) use Bitcoin code, even in part, without indicating that they did so?

Was there ever an audit conducted by an disinterested, independent, public organization?

I mean the Vcash wallet seems to work well and is fast, but is that the only measure here?

Oh, the scam coin XVC opened another moderated thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xvc-vcash-official-community-thread-zerotime-anon-auto-block-size-1504342

Only newbie accounts are promoting it 

Haters are going to hate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1481494.60  

Sun, 24 Apr 2016 21:50:19 GMT
Deployed 0.4.5 Final
 

Sun, 01 May 2016 06:30:27 GMT
Implementing thin client (SPV) operation mode (ZeroLedger SPV+).
Preliminary work on Decentralised Governance architecture.
Bug Fixes
 

Sat, 07 May 2016 23:31:31 GMT
Implementing and Testing thin client (SPV) operation mode (ZeroLedger SPV+).
Version 0.4.6 is entering QA stage.
Bug Fixes
 sorry here are the updates from the last month or so...  said i would come back and post these.


Sat, 14 May 2016 18:58:48 GMT
Deployed 0.4.6 Beta
Implementing and Testing thin client (SPV) operation mode (ZeroLedger SPV+).
Bug Fixes
 


New
Sat, 21 May 2016 20:32:24 GMT
Performing Pre-QA cleanup of ZeroLedger implementation.
Bug Fixes
 

Well you didn't ask, having your network in such a state could be considered a "train wreck", yes. Anyway, the attack didn't kill Bittorrent because devs were reactive and deployed a patch fast, i do believe it is better to address potential issue beforehand.

Sorry but waiting for an issue to arise until you begin to address it is plain laziness.