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Topic: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion - page 6. (Read 16245 times)

legendary
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This seems like a simple change that any coin can make if and when needed.

Yet they are waiting for the train wreck to come before moving while Vcash is getting ready, scalable and future-proof.

You haven't answered how blocking a port is a train wreck. Your node stops working so you either change the port setting or download an update. Did port blocking kill Bittorrent?
newbie
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This seems like a simple change that any coin can make if and when needed.

Yet they are waiting for the train wreck to come before moving while Vcash is getting ready, scalable and future-proof.
legendary
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Merit: 1198
I agree using different ports have merit but is this really a big deal? On most coins there are already quite a few nodes that use different ports for whatever reason (running multiple nodes on the same IP address being one of them), meaning in the unlikely case of a global port block, the coin would still work, but a lot of nodes would be (temporarily) cut off. They all have some kind of --port option or preference setting in a GUI, so if ISPs start blocking, wouldn't users just switch to different ports?


The average Joe shouldn't have to mess with his port configuration, "let the code handle it" to quote the man.

I agree, but the average Joe is not using crypto today, and won't for some time to come. This seems like a simple change that any coin can make if and when needed. If I recall correctly, Bittorrent used to use a fixed port and when that port started getting blocked, clients changed to a random port. Port blocking didn't kill Bittorrent, so claiming that Vcash is the only coin that ISPs can't kill by blocking a port seems like a bit of hype to me.
newbie
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I agree using different ports have merit but is this really a big deal? On most coins there are already quite a few nodes that use different ports for whatever reason (running multiple nodes on the same IP address being one of them), meaning in the unlikely case of a global port block, the coin would still work, but a lot of nodes would be (temporarily) cut off. They all have some kind of --port option or preference setting in a GUI, so if ISPs start blocking, wouldn't users just switch to different ports?


The average Joe shouldn't have to mess with his port configuration, "let the code handle it" to quote the man.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
Vcash is the only coin that ISPs can't kill by blocking a specific port and the only coin other than BTC that Poloniex only requires 1 confirmation for.  Even if you don't understand what john's doing, you must have some agenda for attacking the coin with clear innovations when there are so many pointless clones worth more.

I agree using different ports have merit but is this really a big deal? On most coins there are already quite a few nodes that use different ports for whatever reason (running multiple nodes on the same IP address being one of them), meaning in the unlikely case of a global port block, the coin would still work, but a lot of nodes would be (temporarily) cut off. They all have some kind of --port option or preference setting in a GUI, so if ISPs start blocking, wouldn't users just switch to different ports?
legendary
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Vcash is the only coin that ISPs can't kill by blocking a specific port and the only coin other than BTC that Poloniex only requires 1 confirmation for.  Even if you don't understand what john's doing, you must have some agenda for attacking the coin with clear innovations when there are so many pointless clones worth more.
legendary
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Sorry guys, i created a new thread yet another Vcash scamming-and-pumping self-moderated thread

FTFY

Good news is we have this nice unmoderated thread to discuss Vcash, open to everyone without selective deletes.

legendary
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Merit: 1000
XMR dev creates an unmoderated thread about another coin...

XMR shills pile in to prove how shitty bitcointalk has become..

There are already other unmoderated forums that aren't on bitcointalk, and although I would rather discuss things here, you guys really show me why it has moved.

I mean really doesn't the XMR shill army have enough places for them to wag their tongues by now... 

Oh well that's my rant, from now on I'll just come in to add weekly updates.  Have fun running an XMR thread about XVC.

the question is why they created an unmoderated thread about Vcash?and i got it now...they know in their deep mind that Vcash is far more superior than Monero,and this thread is all about a place for FUDing Vcash.
You should rename this the Vcash Masturbation Topic because that's what it is, the usual suspects circle jerking each other off. However, since this thread only exist out of fear these Craptonote Clonejobs have 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited. Piss me off. Cool


woooh cryptographic cyper wars? 
hero member
Activity: 744
Merit: 500
Oh, finally Vcash clone dev reacted  Grin
sr. member
Activity: 596
Merit: 251
XMR dev creates an unmoderated thread about another coin...

XMR shills pile in to prove how shitty bitcointalk has become..

There are already other unmoderated forums that aren't on bitcointalk, and although I would rather discuss things here, you guys really show me why it has moved.

I mean really doesn't the XMR shill army have enough places for them to wag their tongues by now... 

Oh well that's my rant, from now on I'll just come in to add weekly updates.  Have fun running an XMR thread about XVC.

the question is why they created an unmoderated thread about Vcash?and i got it now...they know in their deep mind that Vcash is far more superior than Monero,and this thread is all about a place for FUDing Vcash.
You should rename this the Vcash Masturbation Topic because that's what it is, the usual suspects circle jerking each other off. However, since this thread only exist out of fear these Craptonote Clonejobs have 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited. Piss me off. Cool
newbie
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The Devastation that man wrecks on himself (in short society is a power vacuum that requires a strong tyrant to beat the men into not defecting from the good of society):

Change the record you're boring

This forum has turned into a circus of lies and ponzi scams speculation:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14853958 (Vcash deleted posts)

Do not expect me to market anything which is "fair" to this audience. They don't want fair.

I am okay with that. Peace. You get yours and I'll get mine. That is the new world order you want.

Collectivism is a power vacuum and the argument is always about who gets to steal for and from whom.

Bernie: "Socialism can be repaired as long as I can be in charge of the stealing to insure it is fair".
Trump: "Stealing can be optimized if I am Dicktator-in-chief"
Clinton: "You'll tolerate my theft (for myself and my cronies) because as a Democrat I'll steal some for you too (and not remind you I funded it all by expanding an egregious future debt on your children's back)"

Stealing (scams, oligarchy, etc) is not the exception, rather it is the norm of human nature. Always will be.

The Lord warned us that this is the nature of man.

Don't forget the Iron Law of Political Economics.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
EDIT: This reply was deleted from a moderated Vcash discussion thread. It is otherwise unmodified.

Ah, there he is, roflmao. Picture is complete. Changed from sockpuppet to your own account bro? You are bringing old news and we don't give a damn about it. You people make the first letter of fud become alive haha

FYI, I have no sock puppet accounts, and have never used any sock puppet accounts.

It isn't "old news" because last I checked, the Vcash code was still violating the Bitcoin license. I haven't checked very recently though, if he has addressed the issue constructively you can let us know, although that still doesn't excuse the false claims about having been written from scratch or that he built it from the ground up.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
EDIT: This reply was deleted from a moderated Vcash discussion thread. It is otherwise unmodified.

Because it is actively getting fudded by the "old boys network". They saw the threat of it and started to shout that he was stealing code, while he made it from the ground up. They never gave any proof, but because the old boys were saying it, people started to believe it. But wat he is done right now is already revolutionary to the whole alt world. And now they are going to implement his code into theirs. How ironic.  

It is incorrect that no one gave proof. The proof is quoted here, including numerous specific code examples, including bugs that were copied along with the original reformatted code, and people with no obvious agenda besides not wanting to see basic disrespect of other people's work calling him out. I don't know what more "proof" than that there could be.

Vcash risks being thrown off exchanges as soon as one of the Bitcoin developers gets annoyed enough with it to have a cease and desist letter written by a lawyer instructing the exchange to stop using the code in violation of the license. Investors then risk holding the bag. But it's all a gamble, for now the Bitcoin devs are ignoring it, and the coin could pump first and you could get out with a profit. Have fun!

It is also certainly false (see above) that he made it "from the ground up". By stating that you are scamming investors who might believe  you and then lose money.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
Interesting info about the Vcash node network:

Quote from: Levole11
Quote from: NakeSLam11
How much nodes exist right now and what amount of vcash is needed to run one?

Currently there are about 340 nodes, 312 of them incentivised.. you needed 10k xvc to run one..
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
First they ignore your unmoderated thread
Then they make fun of your unmoderated thread
Then they fight your unmoderated thread
Then you win

Then they have epic butthurt and go crazy, ranting nonsense about something called STEEM.

 Cool

According to http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/vcash/#charts Vcash volume is drying up.

Time for Traum to move on to his next scam (WAVES).   Grin
sr. member
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Merit: 262
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Sorry as I told you before, Monero does not solve the Tragedy of the Commons in Satoshi's design. It does adaptively increase the block size while preventing spam surges.

I doubt John Conner's design has achieved any better, because as I explained at our prior discussion, there is no decentralized solution to that Tragedy of the Commons in the current proof-of-work designs. I have a solution, but it is a very radical change to the proof-of-work design that relies on unprofitable mining by payers.

I responded to this in the Monero Technical Discussion thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14610651 I should point out that without a tail emission or something equivalent (for: example demurrage) to secure the coin I would predict that the coin will fail.

I had also replied here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14599452

Note I may or may not be able to follow up more (e.g. in the Monero Technical Discussion thread), depending on my priorities. Eventually we will elucidate this issue fully.
legendary
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Merit: 1050
Monero Core Team
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Sorry as I told you before, Monero does not solve the Tragedy of the Commons in Satoshi's design. It does adaptively increase the block size while preventing spam surges.

I doubt John Conner's design has achieved any better, because as I explained at our prior discussion, there is no decentralized solution to that Tragedy of the Commons in the current proof-of-work designs. I have a solution, but it is a very radical change to the proof-of-work design that relies on unprofitable mining by payers.

I responded to this in the Monero Technical Discussion thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14610651 I should point out that without a tail emission or something equivalent (for: example demurrage) to secure the coin I would predict that the coin will fail.
sr. member
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I'm not aware of any, but in any case, now there is one more.

Inability to appreciate and take advantage of free advertising is the disease of the incapable, insincere, selfish, and unrighteous.

“Sit in the place of honor at my right hand until I humble YOUR ENEMIES, MAKING THEM A FOOTSTOOL UNDER YOUR FEET”

legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
XMR dev creates an unmoderated thread about another coin...

XMR shills pile in to prove how shitty bitcointalk has become..

There are already other unmoderated forums that aren't on bitcointalk, and although I would rather discuss things here, you guys really show me why it has moved.


I mean really doesn't the XMR shill army have enough places for them to wag their tongues by now... 

Oh well that's my rant, from now on I'll just come in to add weekly updates.  Have fun running an XMR thread about XVC.




the question is why they created an unmoderated thread about Vcash?

For unmoderated discussion. Enjoy.


there are other unmoderated places to discuss Vcash,

I'm not aware of any, but in any case, now there is one more.
sr. member
Activity: 416
Merit: 250
XMR dev creates an unmoderated thread about another coin...

XMR shills pile in to prove how shitty bitcointalk has become..

There are already other unmoderated forums that aren't on bitcointalk, and although I would rather discuss things here, you guys really show me why it has moved.


I mean really doesn't the XMR shill army have enough places for them to wag their tongues by now...  

Oh well that's my rant, from now on I'll just come in to add weekly updates.  Have fun running an XMR thread about XVC.




the question is why they created an unmoderated thread about Vcash?

For unmoderated discussion. Enjoy.


there are other unmoderated places to discuss Vcash, but bitcointalk is the playground of the OP so he needs to have unmoderated discussion here where all his friends can back him up.
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