It certainly looks that way. If it is too good to be true, it is probably not true.
How many so called pre-orders will they be able to sum up I wonder...
Topic: Yesminer M20 / M10 - page 21. (Read 46919 times)
Definitely SCAM 
- 20000 GH/s (20 TH/s) just 1500W (at the wall)
- Shipping Date: January 2016
- Shipping: Free UPS worldwide.
The efficiency figure of .08W/GH falls into the "Too Good to be True" category for me. I expect it's a scam.
I'll bet the pre-order is only with BTC, right?
Won't take Paypal or a credit card?
Way out beyond the time limitations for Paypal or Credit Card?
If yes, all big flashing signals of SCAM!!!
I'll bet the pre-order is only with BTC, right?
Won't take Paypal or a credit card?
Way out beyond the time limitations for Paypal or Credit Card?
If yes, all big flashing signals of SCAM!!!
Almost definite scam.
Trying to piggyback off KnC's announced Solar devices (the ONLY announcement of 16nm FinFET) - but KnC has also announced somewhere they're moving to a farm-only setup.
Trying to piggyback off KnC's announced Solar devices (the ONLY announcement of 16nm FinFET) - but KnC has also announced somewhere they're moving to a farm-only setup.
When you say "known German re-seller" do you mean that seriously, are they truly known
They're known - have been around for a good while - but a quick search shows mostly negative things; that can be negativity bias, though. I have not had personal experience with them. You can always ask in the unmoderated thread in English - they won't mind 
What about this shop https://www.protact.net/ they offer the unit too, as well as the S5 and the new S5+.
That's the "known German reseller". Either take the gamble (it's your money) or wait for the promised 'more information' later this month.Not in a rush at all, nor do I fancy the idea of "gambling".
When you say "known German re-seller" do you mean that seriously, are they truly known and people actually purchased whatever from them and got them delivered? I am asking, because even though the Yesminer looks very dodgy for the time being, we know for a fact that the Bitmaintech products are very real. I for one would not mind knowing a decent re-seller inside EU borders.
What about this shop https://www.protact.net/ they offer the unit too, as well as the S5 and the new S5+.
That's the "known German reseller". Either take the gamble (it's your money) or wait for the promised 'more information' later this month.
Problem is, I dont speak German 
If it is possible, someone from Germany can verify this company.
If it is possible, someone from Germany can verify this company.
What about this shop https://www.protact.net/ they offer the unit too, as well as the S5 and the new S5+.
First look, no red flags to be aware of, but they do lack privacy policy and a few other things on the page.
Has anyone purchased anything from them?
First look, no red flags to be aware of, but they do lack privacy policy and a few other things on the page.
Has anyone purchased anything from them?
English discussion in this unfortunately-named thread: Bitcoin Forum > Bitcoin > Mining > Hardware > New Hardware or Scam
German: initial group buy thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gruppenkauf-yesminer-m10-m20-1125157
German: official thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/offizieller-thread-zu-yesminers-und-den-bitcoin-minern-m10-und-m20-protact-1136178
German: unmoderated thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dokumentations-thread-zu-den-bitcoin-minern-m10-und-m20-von-yesminers-protact-1138601
If you can't read German, the tl;dr is that most people don't believe it - company is taking preorders for January 2016 as you mentioned, was doing business on e-bay by selling 'coupons' for prices that were too good to be true, their business registration may or may not be iffy depending on interpretation, and of course there's no detail on the hardware whatsoever. The flip side is that a known German reseller of Bitcoin hardware seems to be convinced that it's a legit operation and now acts as something of a spokesperson, telling everybody to wait for more details later this month.
German: initial group buy thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gruppenkauf-yesminer-m10-m20-1125157
German: official thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/offizieller-thread-zu-yesminers-und-den-bitcoin-minern-m10-und-m20-protact-1136178
German: unmoderated thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dokumentations-thread-zu-den-bitcoin-minern-m10-und-m20-von-yesminers-protact-1138601
If you can't read German, the tl;dr is that most people don't believe it - company is taking preorders for January 2016 as you mentioned, was doing business on e-bay by selling 'coupons' for prices that were too good to be true, their business registration may or may not be iffy depending on interpretation, and of course there's no detail on the hardware whatsoever. The flip side is that a known German reseller of Bitcoin hardware seems to be convinced that it's a legit operation and now acts as something of a spokesperson, telling everybody to wait for more details later this month.
No point preordering now, by the time you got the miner, the difficulty already jump a quantum
Hi all guys,
What are thinking about Yesminer?
I want to buy some miners, but I think it is not possible 20TH miner with 1500W power consumption. Is this scam, or not?
These miners are preorder on JAN 2016
http://www.yesminers.de/en/mining/yesminer-m20.html?___from_store=de
Thanks for info
What are thinking about Yesminer?
I want to buy some miners, but I think it is not possible 20TH miner with 1500W power consumption. Is this scam, or not?
These miners are preorder on JAN 2016
http://www.yesminers.de/en/mining/yesminer-m20.html?___from_store=de
Thanks for info
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