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I personally have lost 5% since I started so don't know how you are doing the calculations...

Sorry,,, I did not see your response to my post. I was referencing the period of weekly investments during my post. It went down, then I divested and gambled back to win it all,,, then invested back in. I do this every week around Wednesday to Friday. A week after that, I was all in profit.

But regardless, my All time stats are in profit. We all start in different times?
legendary
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^That is what I was saying as well, when you have trading fee, you have to consider that when you are trading, so you can be a day trader who is doing all kinds of trades every single day but if you are not doing it properly that means you might lose in the long run due to the trading fee, that is basically what the house edge is.

Trading and Gambling is obviously not the exactly the same thing, of course there are differences and mathematically speaking you could always become a good trader or you could just hold bitcoin for a very long time until you profit but gambling would always result with a loss if you continue for too long however you can't deny that even though there are differences between them, there are also a lot of similarities between them as well that makes them so much resembling each other.
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I have always said that there is a correlation between gamblers and investors as well, not that many gamblers can see it but many investors can see that. If you are an investor you are actually risking your money, you are saying that you would rather lose that money in investment and would like to see it not happening and instead making money but you are risking it.

What is the difference between that and playing dice? Not really that much to be honest with you. That is why I think investors know that deep inside they are gamblers as well, just not playing on provably fair and instead here you are the one that is getting the house edge as the investor. If you avoid playing and losing that investment, you could make above %10 per year very easily, but people would want more because of the risks involved.

Well, I think there is a big difference between gambling and investing. True, investing and gambling both involve taking a calculated risk. A chance taken after careful estimation of the most probable outcome.
But, when gambling, the house always has an edge - a mathematical advantage that a casino has over its players. Another key difference is that gamblers have fewer ways to mitigate losses than investors.

Just add the broker fees to the table and you will see the big difference. The middleman take the order from investor/trader and execute the order in global liquidity markets, the fees can be small but the rollover swap and other fees are almost as same as house edge in casinos. No matter, investor win or loss the broker is always winner and middlemen have zero interest about profit/loss ratio of investor. Housed edge of gambling platform=Broker fees on spot forex(Slots=Metatrader 4 in this case)
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I have always said that there is a correlation between gamblers and investors as well, not that many gamblers can see it but many investors can see that. If you are an investor you are actually risking your money, you are saying that you would rather lose that money in investment and would like to see it not happening and instead making money but you are risking it.

What is the difference between that and playing dice? Not really that much to be honest with you. That is why I think investors know that deep inside they are gamblers as well, just not playing on provably fair and instead here you are the one that is getting the house edge as the investor. If you avoid playing and losing that investment, you could make above %10 per year very easily, but people would want more because of the risks involved.

Well, I think there is a big difference between gambling and investing. True, investing and gambling both involve taking a calculated risk. A chance taken after careful estimation of the most probable outcome.
But, when gambling, the house always has an edge - a mathematical advantage that a casino has over its players. Another key difference is that gamblers have fewer ways to mitigate losses than investors.
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I have always said that there is a correlation between gamblers and investors as well, not that many gamblers can see it but many investors can see that. If you are an investor you are actually risking your money, you are saying that you would rather lose that money in investment and would like to see it not happening and instead making money but you are risking it.

What is the difference between that and playing dice? Not really that much to be honest with you. That is why I think investors know that deep inside they are gamblers as well, just not playing on provably fair and instead here you are the one that is getting the house edge as the investor. If you avoid playing and losing that investment, you could make above %10 per year very easily, but people would want more because of the risks involved.
Although it's hard for me to understand what is your trying to say but at least at the end it's all about investment and the gamblers.

Yes, they had a correlated relation because as an investor you can also gamble on the gambling platform. I assume that you meant to say, you must seperate the fund on gambling and the fund of your investment. This is very crucial becaue you maybe wipe out and emptied your bankroll without knowing you if you dont have financial management.

Anyway, good to see that there are too many members here who invest Yolodice. That's a good of making profit.
legendary
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I have always said that there is a correlation between gamblers and investors as well, not that many gamblers can see it but many investors can see that. If you are an investor you are actually risking your money, you are saying that you would rather lose that money in investment and would like to see it not happening and instead making money but you are risking it.

What is the difference between that and playing dice? Not really that much to be honest with you. That is why I think investors know that deep inside they are gamblers as well, just not playing on provably fair and instead here you are the one that is getting the house edge as the investor. If you avoid playing and losing that investment, you could make above %10 per year very easily, but people would want more because of the risks involved.
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Actually, from my personal perspective, if it's ROI/year is >10-15%, then it worths to put into it.


That's exactly right. The only thing is that your investment is so close to the gambling platform. So, you need a good measure of self-control not to succumb to temptation and not to gamble all your investment.

Well, you know, that is what I did, so I'm speaking from personal experience. Wink


Same.
Trust is not an issue. Yolodice had been running for a long time so its safe to say you can keep your investment for a long time.
But, can you keep your cool?  Grin

When you are looking at the bookmarked Yolodice website, it's like there is someone whispering at you to click it and gamble.  Grin
It's a daily decision to make.
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Actually, from my personal perspective, if it's ROI/year is >10-15%, then it worths to put into it.


That's exactly right. The only thing is that your investment is so close to the gambling platform. So, you need a good measure of self-control not to succumb to temptation and not to gamble all your investment.

Well, you know, that is what I did, so I'm speaking from personal experience. Wink


Everyone experience the same that's why it's better to control ourselves on not the chase our profits or losses so that whenever bad times happen we will able to cope those losses on next time around and also to make sure we secure the existing process if good times occur to us. Greediness is one of our worse enemy here so provably we will spend more attention and discipline to maximize things.
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Actually, from my personal perspective, if it's ROI/year is >10-15%, then it worths to put into it.


That's exactly right. The only thing is that your investment is so close to the gambling platform. So, you need a good measure of self-control not to succumb to temptation and not to gamble all your investment.

Well, you know, that is what I did, so I'm speaking from personal experience. Wink
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Actually, from my personal perspective, if it's ROI/year is >10-15%, then it worths to put into it.

It's much more than putting money in Bank...anyway...

As I am just an easier to satisfied person.
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I am not saying it would put you in zero, I just meant it would be changing the approach. Like for example you can invest for 12 months, you could make 47% profit in one year as an example, well for one minute it is 47% and another minute it is 46% because some whale won. Obviously it is not changing it too much but like I said the moment they play they could change the outlook a bit, is 46% a bad investment? Obviously not, it is an amazing investment return however whale just dropped it 1%.

So, what I was trying to say that do not just look at one picture of what happens, look at the bigger picture, look at what happened after each week. Invest on Monday, and after that check every Sunday for 52 weeks and see the increase with your eyes. Just one picture doesn't really reflect how awesome it can be.
As long as you do invest and not look at it, it is you that matters and nobody else, if people are not sure about what they want to do with their own money, nobody has to convince them. If you want to invest, there are many examples of how you could make more money with investment, that alone is a good enough indicator itself but you are not going to suddenly get to hear someone saying it is bad and a bunch of people will come up and say it is bad and suddenly everything will change, it is usually good and people will tell you that.

If you are not sure and you do not want to move depending on what people say, just because you get some pictures that should not change your idea, that only supports what is already being said anyway, it is not like a new information. Hence, do your own research before you invest and go ahead with it if you are sure.
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Hey everyone,

Just got a little curious and got a lot of time at my disposal and I decided to study how can I verify the hash result of my bet produced in YOLOdice website.

So far, I am stucked and I am having a hard time to understand what is the difference between installing the bet validator as a gem and cloning it from the git repository? Wanted to share with you that I have lots of wins than losses and got curious how this "roll" works under the hood.

Thank you.

If you're looking for a validator, here's one https://rgbkey.github.io/yolodice-verifier/#/ (note, this is a 3rd party verifier)

If you want the one created by ethan here is the link https://github.com/ethan-nx/yolodice-validator

As far as how the rolls work under the hood, check out the FAQ and scroll down just a little. The algorithm and everything is all there https://yolodice.com/#faq
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I know that requires a bit of luck because just as 12 months is ending some whale could come up and win like a million doge and you would have a big loss, but unless something unexpected like that happens you will end up with a good amount of profit in 12 months. I can't wait to see the results even from today.
I don't think it will hurt more when you invested a load of time.
We are already looking at whales betting large amounts and they had been winning.
But, it doesn't put us to zero.
12 months is a long time, unexpected events could just rob days from it.  Grin
I am not saying it would put you in zero, I just meant it would be changing the approach. Like for example you can invest for 12 months, you could make 47% profit in one year as an example, well for one minute it is 47% and another minute it is 46% because some whale won. Obviously it is not changing it too much but like I said the moment they play they could change the outlook a bit, is 46% a bad investment? Obviously not, it is an amazing investment return however whale just dropped it 1%.

So, what I was trying to say that do not just look at one picture of what happens, look at the bigger picture, look at what happened after each week. Invest on Monday, and after that check every Sunday for 52 weeks and see the increase with your eyes. Just one picture doesn't really reflect how awesome it can be.
legendary
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Hey everyone,

Just got a little curious and got a lot of time at my disposal and I decided to study how can I verify the hash result of my bet produced in YOLOdice website.

So far, I am stucked and I am having a hard time to understand what is the difference between installing the bet validator as a gem and cloning it from the git repository? Wanted to share with you that I have lots of wins than losses and got curious how this "roll" works under the hood.

Thank you.
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First investment was on 2020-06-05, and invest it regularly by period, no matter it's loss or gain.

Worst situation for me is loss -10% around (due to whale win; but after couple of weeks, it's back to +gain profit anyway), best situation for me is gain +12% around.

Anyway, just let it be and see 6-12 months later how it looks like...
I love it when someone shares with green colors on it.  Grin
It's encouraging for me and might also be for others who are reading it.
Good luck to us.

I know that requires a bit of luck because just as 12 months is ending some whale could come up and win like a million doge and you would have a big loss, but unless something unexpected like that happens you will end up with a good amount of profit in 12 months. I can't wait to see the results even from today.
I don't think it will hurt more when you invested a load of time.
We are already looking at whales betting large amounts and they had been winning.
But, it doesn't put us to zero.
12 months is a long time, unexpected events could just rob days from it.  Grin

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Well, investing into doge is also a smart move because people love to make bets with doge as well, since it looks so low, you end up betting 1000 doge and it looks a lot but in reality it is like just 5000 satoshi and not a big amount, just feels right. Investing into casino is a long term thing so I do applaud the fact that he is looking for 6-12 months, that is exactly what you should be aiming at, I would say by 12 months you will probably have something like 50% profit by the end.

I know that requires a bit of luck because just as 12 months is ending some whale could come up and win like a million doge and you would have a big loss, but unless something unexpected like that happens you will end up with a good amount of profit in 12 months. I can't wait to see the results even from today.

Thanks for your encouragement, let's try.
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Well, investing into doge is also a smart move because people love to make bets with doge as well, since it looks so low, you end up betting 1000 doge and it looks a lot but in reality it is like just 5000 satoshi and not a big amount, just feels right. Investing into casino is a long term thing so I do applaud the fact that he is looking for 6-12 months, that is exactly what you should be aiming at, I would say by 12 months you will probably have something like 50% profit by the end.

I know that requires a bit of luck because just as 12 months is ending some whale could come up and win like a million doge and you would have a big loss, but unless something unexpected like that happens you will end up with a good amount of profit in 12 months. I can't wait to see the results even from today.
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I like yolo, and invest it.



Could you share that how much time before you invested in the Yolo and what was the initial amount invested. Or else till now how much percent profits you have made it, because in the time when other people had lost their profits due to whale winning big you end up making profit. Either you invested very recently and thus you might be in profits or you might have lost profits and reduced to this.

First investment was on 2020-06-05, and invest it regularly by period, no matter it's loss or gain.

Worst situation for me is loss -10% around (due to whale win; but after couple of weeks, it's back to +gain profit anyway), best situation for me is gain +12% around.

Anyway, just let it be and see 6-12 months later how it looks like...
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I like yolo, and invest it.



Could you share that how much time before you invested in the Yolo and what was the initial amount invested. Or else till now how much percent profits you have made it, because in the time when other people had lost their profits due to whale winning big you end up making profit. Either you invested very recently and thus you might be in profits or you might have lost profits and reduced to this.
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Yeah, that 0.5 roll was a bit risky one, with high odds as well, dude managed to get 8 bitcoin versus 6.5 lost but that is just one picture, we do not know what happened before or after that. I am afraid its quite risky to win like that, it would have to be pretty lucky to end up in a good margin of profit, usually you end up losing a ton before you recover in those bets, like for example losing 10 times in a row but then winning like 3-4 times in 7 tries and suddenly you are closer to break even.

I have been around crypto gambling for about 7 years now so I have done all the things you could think of as strategy and I can tell you that this one is a pretty brave one, I wouldn't dare to do it. Not that it has any less chance to win or lose, they are all destined to house edge, but this one can end up losing too quickly.

Judging from my investments over the last week,,, he probably lost more later on (investments went down and then back up in profit for me). OR it was completely unrelated:)

But anyway, everything is risky, putting all your bankroll in one bet or many few bets, to win the same amount? It's all relative to time, but eventually has all the same probability. And amounts are relative to your wealth:) If all I have is 0.5 BTC then I am "brave" to go all in. But that guy probably had a lot more? He is less "brave" but anyway, kudos to anyone who gambles and has fun, that is the whole point:)

I personally have lost 5% since I started so don't know how you are doing the calculations...
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