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When you think too much for the future you can not enjoy the life that you're present in and that's the most negative effect over planning have on your life.You should plan up to a limit but don't exceed in thinking of that.

You can only be comfortable without planning if you have already planned properly for your old age and it is said that he who fails to plan has already planned to fail. Nothing is too much to plan for old age because it is actually a helpless stage of the life we living just like the newborn babies who are helpless to whatever is confronting them. If you have an issue that you can not solve as a young and able bodied man then you can compare that with old age. Therefore, you need a constant plan for the old age until it is put in right perspective before you can relax on that. Planning up to a limit is when you have settled that all is good for the old age.
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Yes you are right it is our own responsibility to plan for our aging and retirement. If we can plan and save our money properly from a young age by thinking about that future, then maybe we will be able to use it properly in old age. But the country where I live has a lot of economic recession. The high cost of living of the common people in our country due to high inflation is making people's lives miserable and difficult. As a result they have no way to plan for the future or save money for the future. There are many people in our country who have no future plan their only plan is how to eat and survive, that is their main aim.

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No one wants to live in poverty, no one wants to grow old with nothing, those are the basic things that any adult thinks about. But the problem is that today's world is too harsh, we are even struggling to cope with inflation, recession, crisis...there are too many problems we have to face. Many of us have not been able to ensure our short-term life needs, so how can we dare to think about more distant things? As long as we can ensure our short-term and medium-term needs, then we can dare to have a retirement plan for ourselves. There is a huge gap between saying and doing and things are much more difficult than we think.
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Most people who don't care about retirement is low or low middle class people.

Their parents didn't teach them how to manage money, their curiosity make them want to explore anything and since they always get bullied due to being poor, now they want to prove anyone if they have expensive stuffs.

It's a trauma that makes them like that, since I'm not in their shoes, I can't relate and they might have a point for doing that.
I can tell from my experience that Americans and Europeans care the most about retirement plans. In my country retirement plans don't exist, people work till they can or die. Too many people in their 70s work where I live and I have even seen some 80-year-old people working as a cleaner and in farming.
In poor countries, young people don't earn enough to make savings and when their parents grow older, their kids, now adults, have to feed them and take care of them. Years pass, parents die and these people still don't have any money saved. Then they get older without a retirement plan and then they end. That's what lifecycle looks like in poor countries. Parents luck education and their children have to pay for it.
Yeah I think you are right to some extent. European propel are worried for their retirement plans the most and they plan slot for their retirement. This is not a negative thing to do but thinking too much for your future is also very harmful.

When you think too much for the future you can not enjoy the life that you're present in and that's the most negative effect over planning have on your life.You should plan up to a limit but don't exceed in thinking of that.
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From your post, I don't see you have any plans for your old age, what you might be thinking of is investing some money in bitcoin and thinking that it can help you earn some big money when you get old. But have you ever thought about the scenario where bitcoin will not increase in price in the future or will it become worthless as you get older? Anything can happen and if you really want to have a fulfilling old age then you need more than a plan to invest a small amount in bitcoin and expect it to make you rich.
Nothing surprising, most of new generations are trapped into self pro claimed motivators' mouth. Most of them always suggest people to invest to get rich, while invest is actually the last step to increase/protect your wealth.



Frankly speaking, many of us are still living on family allowances, many of us are still working hard to take care of every meal for our families. Life is increasingly hustle and bustle and we have to race against time just to take care of tomorrow's meals, making money has never been easy.
I never even dared to think about retiring, let alone planning to retire with a huge amount of money. As we grow up and have families, we will understand that there are many things to worry about, there are many things to prioritize besides retirement. I believe those who are married and have children will understand what we are going through.
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I came from a society where majorities are not bothered about their retirement plans, Some do have the financial resources but due because of financial revenue opportunities, they feels so reluctant and comfortable without considering that depending on the government opportunities could get to an end somedays. I don't know if they ever have the picture imaginarily about how their old ages times would be.

While I've come way too far thinking about this as I also goes around the towns and sees old people aging so helplessly as they're vulnerable, I fear not to be in such situations so then, I'm striving on making positive differences.
I've decided to have a diverse of my bitcoin investment for my retirement purpose.
At some points in life, you don't expect to be thought lessions before you could learn but you can learn from others experiences.
Yes you are right it is our own responsibility to plan for our aging and retirement. If we can plan and save our money properly from a young age by thinking about that future, then maybe we will be able to use it properly in old age. But the country where I live has a lot of economic recession. The high cost of living of the common people in our country due to high inflation is making people's lives miserable and difficult. As a result they have no way to plan for the future or save money for the future. There are many people in our country who have no future plan their only plan is how to eat and survive, that is their main aim.

But OP as you say those who have extra money and have enough money to save for the future may be better off opting for bitcoin investment. If Bitcoin can be deposited regularly from a young age with a future in mind, it will be much more beneficial for the future.
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In this case of not investing for the future, I have come across these things a lot of times, and I keep asking why they live such a life. Even before the economy got to this point, this had been happening.
Some of this is the fact that they hope that this opportunity will surely come back to them, and when it comes the second time, they can use it to build up for the future.

Ignorance is one of the major reasons for this.

While growing up, I could remember a time when opportunities came to my place (the community), and there were a lot of chances to work in a company given to youth and older men. Unfortunately, lots of them sow out their chances to other people, use the money for flexing, and squander it without proving anything. And unlucky for them, this opportunity never came back. That was actually the last, and they couldn't make use of it.
And in the same case, there were also men who actually took the jobs and also squandered the finances in the hope that the work would last forever. Lots of people are living a despicable, indescribable life, not putting their future in line of failure. It's not just about the economic system. 
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Diversifying BTC for retirement plans is not really my thing because at the end of the day, there would be no reasonable profit for the original investor and the investor would be left with the choice to either hold or sell when old age comes and if they didn't get to introduce their siblings or grandchildren to BTC , the coins would be lost.
Having crypto as your retirement plan is fine, as long as it is well planned and of course as long as you know how to take profit. Seriously, I’m not too focus about my retirement since I’m living my life everyday to the fullest since I can never know if I can stay alive during my retirement although of course I still prepare for it but it’s not for my self anymore, I prepare for the benefits of my family and crypto can also be a good choice for your retirement option.
I have to agree. It’s actually fine to have crypto in preparation for your retirement soon. Knowing it appreciates its value in the long run, for me that’s a good investment for our future. However, investing without knowing the basics is like gambling your funds. You should know the risk involved with hodling bitcoin, and should be well aware of its highly volatility. But if your purpose is to hold it for such a long term without having an attempt to sell it, I guess you won’t be highly bothered with its volatility nature. Just stick to your set goals then.
But dont forget that it could also depreciates on which it would really be just that right that you should be also thinking about the probabilities about declining in price on which this is something that could really happen out. We do know that when it comes to this aspect then there would really be those possibilities that it could really be having that kind of opposite condition on what you are anticipating.
Instead on earning you would really be rather seeing your accumulation to be in negative. This is why you should really be that wise on choosing on which coin you would really be holding which majority
would be choosing up Bitcoin but of course there's no such guarantee considering that no one really knows about the future.

Proper planning about your future when you do get old is something that recommended despite on having that government aids or support but you cant know on what would be happening.
Its better to have back up plans rather than on having nothing at all.
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If there is something I fear so much, it is not being able to do the things that matter to me because of financial constraints or overly busy schedules. I believe in proper planning and most especially planning ahead of time, I plan sometimes for six months ahead, funny as it may sound, I'm already saving little by little for my December celebrations. I love meaningful investments and I believe in investing wisely to cater for a later time. Old age is a blessing to whoever plans properly for it and a curse to those that neglected preparations for its coming. The reality that a time will come when my bones would not be so strong to carry out strenuous, stressful and mentally engaging activities that I undertake now prompts me to have some diversified profitable investments that will take care of me at the long run.

Everything should not be left for the government alone, its time people started taking full responsibility of their laterdays and prepare adequately, so that if government delays in their compliance, or  none coming forth, you can live a normal, healthy and fulfilled life as a senior citizen
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Diversifying BTC for retirement plans is not really my thing because at the end of the day, there would be no reasonable profit for the original investor and the investor would be left with the choice to either hold or sell when old age comes and if they didn't get to introduce their siblings or grandchildren to BTC , the coins would be lost.
Having crypto as your retirement plan is fine, as long as it is well planned and of course as long as you know how to take profit. Seriously, I’m not too focus about my retirement since I’m living my life everyday to the fullest since I can never know if I can stay alive during my retirement although of course I still prepare for it but it’s not for my self anymore, I prepare for the benefits of my family and crypto can also be a good choice for your retirement option.
I have to agree. It’s actually fine to have crypto in preparation for your retirement soon. Knowing it appreciates its value in the long run, for me that’s a good investment for our future. However, investing without knowing the basics is like gambling your funds. You should know the risk involved with hodling bitcoin, and should be well aware of its highly volatility. But if your purpose is to hold it for such a long term without having an attempt to sell it, I guess you won’t be highly bothered with its volatility nature. Just stick to your set goals then.
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Diversifying BTC for retirement plans is not really my thing because at the end of the day, there would be no reasonable profit for the original investor and the investor would be left with the choice to either hold or sell when old age comes and if they didn't get to introduce their siblings or grandchildren to BTC , the coins would be lost.
Having crypto as your retirement plan is fine, as long as it is well planned and of course as long as you know how to take profit. Seriously, I’m not too focus about my retirement since I’m living my life everyday to the fullest since I can never know if I can stay alive during my retirement although of course I still prepare for it but it’s not for my self anymore, I prepare for the benefits of my family and crypto can also be a good choice for your retirement option.
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I came from a society where majorities are not bothered about their retirement plans, Some do have the financial resources but due because of financial revenue opportunities, they feels so reluctant and comfortable without considering that depending on the government opportunities could get to an end somedays. I don't know if they ever have the picture imaginarily about how their old ages times would be.

While I've come way too far thinking about this as I also goes around the towns and sees old people aging so helplessly as they're vulnerable, I fear not to be in such situations so then, I'm striving on making positive differences.
I've decided to have a diverse of my bitcoin investment for my retirement purpose.
At some points in life, you don't expect to be thought lessions before you could learn but you can learn from others experiences.
Diversifying BTC for retirement plans is not really my thing because at the end of the day, there would be no reasonable profit for the original investor and the investor would be left with the choice to either hold or sell when old age comes and if they didn't get to introduce their siblings or grandchildren to BTC , the coins would be lost.
That would really be only the cons when you are really that tending to accumulate crypto which it isnt really just that Bitcoin but also in other coins as well on where there's really a tendency that those coins would really be lost specially if you havent told someone in regarding with your holdings and since no one would really be able to know on when you would pass out then those coins would really be lost forever
not unless if you have told someone in regarding with your posession and telling about your PK then those coins would be retrieved out or could be accessed but we do know the particular risks once we are still alive and other people do have that awareness of those keys which it could potentially stolen. This is why when in regards to retirement and on the old age condition then majority would really be still
preferring those old traditional ways.

Having some crypto holding wouldnt really be that a bad idea but of course you should really be preparing for those cons that it would have and it would be such a waste
if there's no one would be able to benefit it out just incase of emergencies.
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I came from a society where majorities are not bothered about their retirement plans, Some do have the financial resources but due because of financial revenue opportunities, they feels so reluctant and comfortable without considering that depending on the government opportunities could get to an end somedays. I don't know if they ever have the picture imaginarily about how their old ages times would be.

While I've come way too far thinking about this as I also goes around the towns and sees old people aging so helplessly as they're vulnerable, I fear not to be in such situations so then, I'm striving on making positive differences.
I've decided to have a diverse of my bitcoin investment for my retirement purpose.
At some points in life, you don't expect to be thought lessions before you could learn but you can learn from others experiences.
Diversifying BTC for retirement plans is not really my thing because at the end of the day, there would be no reasonable profit for the original investor and the investor would be left with the choice to either hold or sell when old age comes and if they didn't get to introduce their siblings or grandchildren to BTC , the coins would be lost.
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While I've come way too far thinking about this as I also goes around the towns and sees old people aging so helplessly as they're vulnerable, I fear not to be in such situations so then, I'm striving on making positive differences.
I've decided to have a diverse of my bitcoin investment for my retirement purpose.
At some points in life, you don't expect to be thought lessions before you could learn but you can learn from others experiences.

Ever heard of insurance or pension? This is what senior citizens using on their daily life aside from their savings. I have a veteran grandparents that has a pension sufficient enough to support a big family since he made a lot of contributions during his active work.

He manage to have good life and financially stable after retirement due to his pension and insurance which paid from his job salary. You don’t need to venture on investment if you have a decent salary for career. Relying on Bitcoin alone will not gonna work because you will need to have a good source of income just to sustain the growth of your investment.

Having a good career path is still the best so that if your future investments doesn’t turn out to be good, you have a guaranteed source of income that can provide you a future savings.

All of us must experience ups and downs and also use our old age to just enjoy the results, therefore we must make long-term plans so that every opportunity must really be utilized to the maximum. The latest world developments must also continue to be monitored so that when there is a small opportunity we can invest, like today's crypto, we must also be able to set aside our money every day, even if it is a little, because that will become our capital when times are difficult in the future. Youth must be utilized as fully as possible because only ourselves can protect us
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Well, that depends. In many European countries, if you have nothing when you retire, the state gives you all sorts of benefits, and even before you retire. What happens is that these benefits are only for subsistence, not much more. But knowing that the state network is there makes many people not to worry about their retirement. However, the best thing to do, even if you have a public pension in the future or benefits if you are not entitled to a pension, is to supplement it with savings and investments throughout your working life.

That help from government for retired people differs from one European country to other. I live in a European country and my grandma receive only such benefits: free public transport, discounts for city-to-city transport, once per month she get some food package from "pension fund" that consist of cereals, sugar and few cans with vegetables. I would not call it even as minimum survival package for a week. I call it as total absurd, when average pension is less than minimum living wave which is less than minimum monthly salary.
There are really countries on which they do really have that much better programs which are really that intended for elderly on which they would really be that somewhat that do able to make themselves
having that kind of assuring condition that they wont really be that be struggling on the time that they would be able to reach out those retirement days on which it would really be that a good situation
or part for them. This is why most of those old people would really be that confident that on where they would really be ending up and not really just that planning too much whether they would be saving up
that much for their future conditions just because they do know on the benefits that they could really be able to get but of course just like been said that this would vary from each country because
not all would really be on the same condition or situation.
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Well, it would be better if we could take lessons from the people around us. We don't need to experience the difficulties experienced by others if we can learn from observing the mistakes made by others. And so that we can learn and not step on the wrong path like others do.

Preparing for retirement so that you are in the best condition is everyone's dream. Especially if it is financial freedom. So it would be better if we spent more time working when we were young so that we could relax more when we were old.

Yes this is a better way to minimise your mistakes by visualising the condition of other people but some people don't share their mistakes but start to blame the selected field. I think one should analyse the whole situation and then work according to it so he can identify and differentiate between good and bad things.

Everyone should think about the financial system after retirement so if someone has not retired yet then he can make all his plans prior to retirement because making plans before the situation happens can help you in making good decisions.

We have to save money and invest from a younger Age because a sudden situation at the time of retirement can make us distress and we will spend all money without planning and thinking about the future therefore spend according to your adopted plans.
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At some points in life, you don't expect to be thought lessions before you could learn but you can learn from others experiences.

In theory, many things sound easy, but reality/practice is something quite different. What we humans want is to live, and to live means to experience things around us, good and bad. If we took every experience from others how could it be called life?

We all know that we should make plans for the future, but sometimes (rarely or more often) all plans fall through the cracks and we are forced to start from the beginning. As Woody Allen said, "If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans.". So I understand people who feel casual, without any big plans just living their life. Everyone has a right to their own life and I doubt that anyone can say how best to live, everyone has their own wants/hopes/needs/etc.
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In my opinion, failure occurs because the planning we do cannot work well and no one plans failure for themselves and I agree with what you say. It is very important for us to be able to have plans for the future because we will never know when we will will not be able to do work that can provide us with income by having a plan for the future so when the time comes when we are no longer able to do work, we can enjoy the results of what we have prepared while still able to work.

For those who can only earn enough to eat, of course it will be impossible for them to think about their future so this will continue until they earn enough income for their needs and some of it they can save, but this will it is very difficult if the country where they live does not make it easy for their people to generate a decent income for them.
That's true, income over investment at any time. I believe that investment for income is also the greatest way to go as well. If you could find an investment that could turn into you making money, and having an income, that means you are going to get a greater future. That is one of the biggest reasons why I am investing heavily into ETH these days, I will not be able to reach to a point where I can only stake ETH and live with that, but at the very least I could maybe reach to a point where it would supplement my current income.

Even something as small as 200-300 dollars per month would be insanely helpful for me, and that is why I am trying my very best to combine income and investment together to get a better future.
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While I've come way too far thinking about this as I also goes around the towns and sees old people aging so helplessly as they're vulnerable, I fear not to be in such situations so then, I'm striving on making positive differences.
I've decided to have a diverse of my bitcoin investment for my retirement purpose.
At some points in life, you don't expect to be thought lessions before you could learn but you can learn from others experiences.

Ever heard of insurance or pension? This is what senior citizens using on their daily life aside from their savings. I have a veteran grandparents that has a pension sufficient enough to support a big family since he made a lot of contributions during his active work.

He manage to have good life and financially stable after retirement due to his pension and insurance which paid from his job salary. You don’t need to venture on investment if you have a decent salary for career. Relying on Bitcoin alone will not gonna work because you will need to have a good source of income just to sustain the growth of your investment.

Having a good career path is still the best so that if your future investments doesn’t turn out to be good, you have a guaranteed source of income that can provide you a future savings.

The thing is, most of the young people of this generation don't have pensionable Jobs, They are faced with menial jobs that is not pensionable, so finding a career part becomes difficult. I feel population growth has shrink those opportunities the senior citizens enjoyed in their youthful age.

So my take is that, most of the young people can actually find a pathway through bitcoin investment because you have guarantee on your returning in your investment, with the profit you earned from your investment you can easily diversify to other sources of income, and as such you can easily save for retirement or day's you will no longer be too active.
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Even though this is part of the parents' responsibility towards their children, on the one hand, people who are born into rich families must also realize that one day they will also build their own family life like their parents are building their family now. So it would be a huge loss if they don't think from now on when there are still many pleasures they can experience through their own parents so that they can get continuous enjoyment until their old age arrives. Because now we can see that there are many poor people who are struggling for this even though they have to go through a very bitter process in their lives.

It depends on the upbringing and what parents teach their children about life and wealth and every other thing that matters. If parents are not interested in teaching their children the value of money and how difficult it is to earn money and be responsible when they step into practical life, they will barely care about such things because all they would be doing is spending the money their parents earn and think that they will have the same privilege in the future as well, and parents also don't tell them that they will need to take care of themselves on their own in the future when they won't be around anymore.

Sure, they might get some wealth as an inheritance from their parents when they pass away, but that wealth wouldn't stay forever or grow until they do something with it, and one can only do something valuable with existing wealth if they have learned something in the past.

Such are the people who would spend and finish all the inherited wealth and then start from scratch, living a life that is miserable and full of struggles because they didn't act positively when they needed to.
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When they depend too much on their parents in various things then that person will find it very difficult to live their life without the help of their parents and this is a habit experienced by those whose parents have a lot of money so they don't think anything about how to get something. and will always be there when they want it, but if they can think about the future they will of course be able to manage well what their parents give them so they will be able to plan for their future and if they don't think about their future of course will have difficulty living their lives because their parents no longer think about their lives.

There would be nothing wrong with some people being born into rich families and being able to enjoy their lives while their parents were still healthy so they were still able to give them whatever they wanted. But people who are aware and grateful for themselves were born in such conditions, because they can live like that in their old age. Of course they must be willing to prepare everything from now on by doing something valuable at this time without paying too much attention to what their parents give them.

Even though this is part of the parents' responsibility towards their children, on the one hand, people who are born into rich families must also realize that one day they will also build their own family life like their parents are building their family now. So it would be a huge loss if they don't think from now on when there are still many pleasures they can experience through their own parents so that they can get continuous enjoyment until their old age arrives. Because now we can see that there are many poor people who are struggling for this even though they have to go through a very bitter process in their lives.
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