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Looks to me that a mod felt that publishing a list of the wealthiest addresses was "class warfare". Certainly hope he's continues investigating the block-chain, knowing the macro-structure of the block-chain can only be useful for genuine supporters of the crypto-currency concept.
If you pull the latest from github, I've added a couple of fields
in the output of allBalances that do what you want:
nbIn, lastIn, nbOut, lastOut
For the less than 1% part, a dumb awk filter can do it with the
new fields.
I just tried, it works great. Actually what I wanted is Amount_In, Amount_Out, but I can do that on my own.
One can find some interesting information from this:
E.g. The address with Hash-160 `12d5a845f2b212ce0c3bd65a4035881d9219090e` was last touched on 2012-10-23 03:33:21, however, the last transaction out was on 2010-07-24 23:35:23. It could happen that the private key to these 31,000 BTC is lost after this.
If you pull the latest from github, I've added a couple of fields
in the output of allBalances that do what you want:
nbIn, lastIn, nbOut, lastOut
For the less than 1% part, a dumb awk filter can do it with the
new fields.
Thanks so much. You rock!
Sergio seems to have developed a new methodology of grouping early mining
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto-visionary-and-genious-178629
The 'entity' (certainly Satoshi if his methodology is correct) would dwarf the currently largest wallet by an order of magnitude. I'm interested in seeing how if his new methodology can be combined with the conventional closure method to reveal even larger sums.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto-visionary-and-genious-178629
The 'entity' (certainly Satoshi if his methodology is correct) would dwarf the currently largest wallet by an order of magnitude. I'm interested in seeing how if his new methodology can be combined with the conventional closure method to reveal even larger sums.
http://blockchain.info/fb/12hi
I believe this address would be high on the list if it wasn't "cleared out". I believe this one belongs to Satoshi because the oldest transaction was 3 days into bitcoin's existence. It seems a lot of mining rewards from the very early days were sent here. I tried to follow the money, but bitcoin did its job and led me nowhere.
I believe this address would be high on the list if it wasn't "cleared out". I believe this one belongs to Satoshi because the oldest transaction was 3 days into bitcoin's existence. It seems a lot of mining rewards from the very early days were sent here. I tried to follow the money, but bitcoin did its job and led me nowhere.
Znort, how about running the closure and 'taint' tools on this address, that would at-least give a broad-brush generalization of if these coins were scattered to the wind or stayed consolidated, I suspect it would be the former as people were much loser with BTC back then when it was really worth nothing.
Very interesting address, and very interesting closure.
The closure is fairly large (around 393 addresses).
The earliest TX into the closure is a block mined on 2009-01-13.
(Interestingly, that is earlier than the first TX into the address given:
one of the nice property of the closure tool is that you can sort of travel
back in time.)
After that there are a whole bunch of BTC50 TX paying into the
closure (likely mining revenue, didn't bother to check that they
were actual block mined type tx). The owner is definitely a very
early miner.
The balance for the closure peaks at BTC95k around mid-2011.
Either the owner decided to cash out at that time, or he decided to
spread his coins to addresses outside of the closure to be less "visible"
Transactions in or out of the closure are nicely spread over the range [2009-today].
Latest TX in or out of the closure is from 2013-04-04 which seems to
indicate that our miner is still alive and well
To get a vague idea of where the money went, I ran a taint analysis of TX
paying out of the closure.
Because of how early this closure starts, it almost taints *every* TX in the
chain, so I chose to only keep TX whose output is tainted by more than 75%
by the closure.
That's about 2028 transactions, involving about 5000 addresses. I computed
the balance for all of these, and ... the outcome is very interesting
What's the interesting thing ?
Update after the crash would be nice!
I used the tool developed by Znort987 and got a top 40000 list here: http://goo.gl/4u7bG
5MB file, to large to paste.
Have you tried the "parser pristine" command ?
Oh, I didn't. Just tried, so it prints "height, time, tx_number", is it right?
Took me 992 seconds for my 3 yr old computer to get this.
(Did you say it only takes 30s on your computer? You got a super one or I did something wrong?)
I like to check periodically for how many coins are required to be in the top 410.
It used to be 1-2k would be enough. Now 3k is the low end.
I guess that is party a factor of more bitcoins in the system? Or would it be watching in real time the effect of the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer?
It used to be 1-2k would be enough. Now 3k is the low end.
I guess that is party a factor of more bitcoins in the system? Or would it be watching in real time the effect of the rich getting richer and poor getting poorer?
Is there a way to
(I briefly hacked your code, but haven't figure out how to do this.)
Also, how many addresses just mined a block and has stay quiet since then? I just counted, there are more than 20,000 addresses with a balance of exactly 50 BTC, but I'm not sure how many of them are mined.
- Show time of last-in and last-out, instead of just last-seen?
- List the Sink address, namely addresses with only transactions in but no transactions out?
(Or maybe more precisely, addresses whose out/in ≤ 1%?)
(I briefly hacked your code, but haven't figure out how to do this.)
Also, how many addresses just mined a block and has stay quiet since then? I just counted, there are more than 20,000 addresses with a balance of exactly 50 BTC, but I'm not sure how many of them are mined.
Thus my inquiry into how many are holding how much earlier in this thread, I think.
The most "hideable" amounts seem to be in the under 1000 coins range. So break up your wallet into several consisting of almost random amounts between 1 to 999 and no one is going to pay much attention to them.
The most "hideable" amounts seem to be in the under 1000 coins range. So break up your wallet into several consisting of almost random amounts between 1 to 999 and no one is going to pay much attention to them.
Thanks znort. Minimum still coming down. Possibly some big holders did some of the recent selling.
As a relative big holder myself, I prefer not to show up on the list. I am sure the large early holders have net decreased their position during March-April, but for the most part, the minimum coming down just means that they break their paperwallets to much smaller ones, so as to retain better pseudonymity.
Whereas BTC10,000 was a chump change for many back in early 2011, now it is a formidable chunk of wealth that people are watching closely. Breaking it up to BTC500 increments with a mixing service would be my choice if I had the problem of having too large a paper wallet.
Boy look at this transaction, 69K going into 1 address. It comes from the merging and emptying out of 2 addresses which themselves have been receiving coins in 2.5K installments regularly since May 2012. It dose not look like mining though, as I don't see generated coins, rather it looks like a lot of small transactions so I don't think this is a miner.
http://blockchain.info/address/1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx?sort=1
This is also a good example of the kind of transaction that would be missed by normal closure, but because they are being cleaned out and put into a completely new address we can be confident this is all still under one persons control (or someone got hacked).
http://blockchain.info/address/1HQ3Go3ggs8pFnXuHVHRytPCq5fGG8Hbhx?sort=1
This is also a good example of the kind of transaction that would be missed by normal closure, but because they are being cleaned out and put into a completely new address we can be confident this is all still under one persons control (or someone got hacked).
That's a silkroad wallet. One of the addresses that dumps into it mentions a silkroad mixer.
Quite many saw the crash coming, and/or sold the second day at $150-$200.
Not me. I was too busy making money and today also buying a lot.
Not me. I was too busy making money and today also buying a lot.
Sold at $245 and had plenty of time to buy back in at $78. Took some time for this short move to be realized, but thankfully the ;;goxlag made it easy to throw that buy order in the book after someone bit on my sell. Took less than two days for this to be realized... I though it might have taken two or three weeks for this move to complete.
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