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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 224. (Read 1009352 times)

legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
Let me just say this as a complete noobz to this coin who bought this purely for TA reasons.  I sent myself coins from my Cryptsy account and they cleared very fast, which was quite impressive.  Then again, that wallet took a full 48 hours to download the blockchain which was disturbing to say the least.  Second, please forgive me for not reading the other 650 pages on this thread, but can someone briefly explain to me how proof of stake works for this coin?  I have a million in my test wallet, do I get more?  Third, 31,271,216,268 coins seems to be a very large overhang.  It will be very hard for this coin to stage a healthy advance with that kind of resistance overhead.  Was this premined?  Why are there so many coins overhead?  Lastly, the coin seems to be advancing correctly so far technically, but there appear to be a large number of dumpers waiting overhead.  Just an FYI, if you want your coin to advance, don't sit overhead waiting to dump an enormous number of coins on the market.  If everybody holds we can all do significantly better.  Thanks.
http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/

Solarion gave the quick version.

Here is the Long Winded version.   Cheesy

PoS : Proof of Stake
Total coins 90 billion
30 seconds block target
Interest on Proof of Stake:
Year 1: 25% | Year 2: 20% | Year 3: 15% | Year 4 and ongoing: 5%
4 confirmations per transaction means fast 2 mins confirmations
50 confirmations per ZEIT blocks

The original dev did a 1% premine for giveaways & bounties.
To the best of my knowledge he used most if not all of it.

Original Dev been gone since mid 2014.

Rent_A_Ray has taken on the role of Dev and is doing a wonderful job.
The ZeitKnights began accepting members in Feb 2015.
Each ZeitKnight will hold 100 million zeitcoins to use 10% of their interest for charity in the future.
Currently 14 ZeitKnights.

Zeit PoS ,
All coins held in the wallet that are not moved, mature after 20 days.
So after 20 days is the earliest your coins can stake.
We are in year 2 , 20% interest for the year.
How to calculate your interest .
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9439264
(Was originally done for 25% , Replace 0.0684931506849315 with 0.0547945205479452 for 20% calculations. )  If your wallet is locked , it has to be unlocked to earn interest.

As far as the number of coins, this coin was designed to be used Globally , not trying to make itself scarce to add value like others. Plus the large number of coins gives a PoS coin increased protection from some security issues, such as 51% attacks and nothing to stake issues.
Since you have to have zeitcoins to make more, eventually all of the excess will become like energy efficient miners for many.
Oddly as time goes on, this number of coins will be viewed as too small as the number of ZeitKnights continue to grow.
Our Maximum Number of ZeitKnights will be somewhere between 100 & 300 , that group will make history as supporters of this coin.

Recap

Become a legendary zeight (zeit knight) and help us to help others.
Think of it like King Arthur and his Round Table, every one at the Table is Equal.
A Group of Men & Women banding together to make the Way of Zeit a worldwide reality.
_______________________________________________________________________________ _
The ZeitKnight's End Game,
To make this World a Better Place for All who reside in it.
By making zeitcoin into a tool that can help someone next door or someone across the world.
______________________________________________________________________________
Technically Zeitcoin is a Virtual Resource that is made by personal computers,
To make a Zeitcoin , you need CPU Labor, Electricity, Internet connection, & Time,
We combine those resources to make a Zeitcoin.
______________________________________________________________________________
ZeitKnights Current Goal List
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9883182

Charities to Sponsor once the price of zeitcoin is higher
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9874339

Zeit Slogans
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9874356
_______________________________________________________________________________ ___

Any Questions or Suggestions , Post Away , All Ideas Welcome.

 Cool

Requirements:
All Members must have 100 million Zeitcoins as a requirement of being part of the Zeit-Knights.
_______________________________________________________________________________ ____


hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 513
The OP has a lot of useful information. Suggest you at least read that. 48 hours to download a mature POS blockchain is not unusual, also it can be shortened dramatically with bootstrapping:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10977720

To stake coins you must hold them for 20+ days.

Daytraders and short term profiteers dump because it's what they do after a run up. Zeitcoin is up 240% just since March 30 so there will be those that want to take profits...this is normal and healthy. There are plenty of people that believe in this coin's long term future that buy and hold.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Let me just say this as a complete noobz to this coin who bought this purely for TA reasons.  I sent myself coins from my Cryptsy account and they cleared very fast, which was quite impressive.  Then again, that wallet took a full 48 hours to download the blockchain which was disturbing to say the least.  Second, please forgive me for not reading the other 650 pages on this thread, but can someone briefly explain to me how proof of stake works for this coin?  I have a million in my test wallet, do I get more?  Third, 31,271,216,268 coins seems to be a very large overhang.  It will be very hard for this coin to stage a healthy advance with that kind of resistance overhead.  Was this premined?  Why are there so many coins overhead?  Lastly, the coin seems to be advancing correctly so far technically, but there appear to be a large number of dumpers waiting overhead.  Just an FYI, if you want your coin to advance, don't sit overhead waiting to dump an enormous number of coins on the market.  If everybody holds we can all do significantly better.  Thanks.

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
It's been a while how do i go about unlocking the wallet to send coins? only have the option to unlock for minting.

When the Wallet is locked, send the coins, and it will ask you for the unlock password right before sending.


 Cool



Ok so if it's staking just lock it again then send?

Yep. Lock it, wait a while then press "Send Button"...

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1046
It's been a while how do i go about unlocking the wallet to send coins? only have the option to unlock for minting.

When the Wallet is locked, send the coins, and it will ask you for the unlock password right before sending.


 Cool



Ok so if it's staking just lock it again then send?

Yep. Lock it, wait a while then press "Send Button"...
full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
It's been a while how do i go about unlocking the wallet to send coins? only have the option to unlock for minting.

When the Wallet is locked, send the coins, and it will ask you for the unlock password right before sending.


 Cool



Ok so if it's staking just lock it again then send?
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1046
MovementCF84kn1mnRg3Sto7vci4Nuhd6x looked a bit empty .. so threw some change in from my newly minted stake Wink Do like watching those numbers pop up for days ..

Thank you, Sir.  Cheesy

I'll match that contribution for a great coin and a great dev.

Cheers.

Thank you, Sir.

Short Explanation: MovementCF84kn1mnRg3Sto7vci4Nuhd6x has been generated for:
webspace, developers, videos, SSL-certs etc.........(it's a very long list)

This isn't my personal address. --> It's the ZeitKnight's wallet, currently managed by Rent_a_Ray.
I'm gonna send the private key to kiklo and Lion within the next days or we're trying to create a multisig address.

It's a piggy bank

Cheers,
Ray


legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
It's been a while how do i go about unlocking the wallet to send coins? only have the option to unlock for minting.

When the Wallet is locked, send the coins, and it will ask you for the unlock password right before sending.


 Cool

full member
Activity: 189
Merit: 100
It's been a while how do i go about unlocking the wallet to send coins? only have the option to unlock for minting.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 513
MovementCF84kn1mnRg3Sto7vci4Nuhd6x looked a bit empty .. so threw some change in from my newly minted stake Wink Do like watching those numbers pop up for days ..

Thank you, Sir.  Cheesy

I'll match that contribution for a great coin and a great dev.

Cheers.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1046
MovementCF84kn1mnRg3Sto7vci4Nuhd6x looked a bit empty .. so threw some change in from my newly minted stake Wink Do like watching those numbers pop up for days ..

Thank you, Sir.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1130
Merit: 1000
No good deed goes unpunished
MovementCF84kn1mnRg3Sto7vci4Nuhd6x looked a bit empty .. so threw some change in from my newly minted stake Wink Do like watching those numbers pop up for days ..

Amazing work everyone ..

Not sure how to feel about BTER at the moment, ended up losing a chunk of change there in their recent "hack" and stopped using it and making votes. Was playing with DRK and DOGE there for few weeks for points.

Can everyone pester Poloniex as well? There are only so many warnings I can get away with about non-listed coins Smiley

hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1046
We can do everything, podizzle
As an example: You take the Blackcoin code and build a new zeit-client based on Blackcoin.
You need parts of your old code for the syncing procedure till Block X. After Block X the client works with a completely different chain format.(SHA256 POS in this case)

Example: Hobonickels
The following constants have been added by Tranz:
Code: (main.h)
/** Hard Fork Change Times/Block */
static const unsigned int PROTOCOL_SWITCH_TIME = 1371686400; // 20 Jun 2013 00:00:00
static const unsigned int REWARD_SWITCH_TIME = 1369432800; // 25 May 2013 00:00:00
static const unsigned int POS_REWARD_SWITCH_TIME = 1378684800; // 9 SEP 2013 00:00:00
static const unsigned int POS_REWARD_FIX_TIME = 1383177600; // 31 OCT 2013 00:00:00
static const unsigned int POS_REWARD_FIX_TIME2 = 1383606000; // 04 Nov 2013 23:00:00
static const unsigned int VERSION1_5_SWITCH_TIME = 1421489410; //  Sat, 17 Jan 2015 10:10:10 GMT
static const unsigned int VERSION1_5_SWITCH_BLOCK = 1600000; //  Block 1.6 million, approx same time

For a better understanding:
Let's change the drift time from 1h to 10s. What can happen?
Every new client will work without any issue if the chain is fully synced, BUT if u start syncing at Genesis Block (0), the latest change does not meet the rules.
The new client will not accept any blocks with a drift >10sec.
You have to tell the client that 1h is valid till block X. The constant values are hardcoded blocks in the future. On certain day X at 0:00 the whole network accepts the new rule.

My plan is the following:
We could make a list with all the features that we wanna have.
Then I need some time and some Knights (Clients) for internal testing.
When the new client is working well, we can switch over.

Cheers,
Ray


hero member
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The proof of stake fundamentals are great but it does need some user friendly upgrades in the upcoming months/years. I think a feature to automatically send newly minted coins would be great. Also there are a few shortcuts other coins use to decrease sync time. Not sure how feasible it is in a coin like zeit. kiklo and ray probably know more.
legendary
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ThankQ
I am noticing it 'needs some time' Wink
legendary
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TECH Help pls.

– Copy the bootstrap.dat file in the folder \Users\YOUR_WINDOWS_USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Zeitcoin
– Run the Zeitcoin software to import most of the blockchain locally and then to download only the rest and synchronize the client

And that is it?  All automatic? No renaming of the file?  Is there an import command?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11092888

I would prefer kiklos snapshot. Fast and easy.

Cheers,
Ray

Regarding your question: Yes, that's it. fully automatic but it needs some time and a couple of wallet restarts.
legendary
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Target should be 350-370 LIT
All above is day trading fake. Let's keep credible... ZEIT needs TIME...

I never saw anything like the ZEIT community. It's one of a kind in the Cryptosphere.

Cheers

Sound Advice Smiley

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TECH Help pls.

– Copy the bootstrap.dat file in the folder \Users\YOUR_WINDOWS_USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Zeitcoin
– Run the Zeitcoin software to import most of the blockchain locally and then to download only the rest and synchronize the client

And that is it?  All automatic? No renaming of the file?  Is there an import command?
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1046
Target should be 350-370 LIT
All above is day trading fake. Let's keep credible... ZEIT needs TIME...

I never saw anything like the ZEIT community. It's one of a kind in the Cryptosphere.

Cheers
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