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Topic: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] [MICRO-PAYMENTS] - page 507. (Read 1009334 times)

legendary
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Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Come on guys let`s forger that incident and be more stronger.We have a fight to give here and  grow up more this community and make Zeit coin famous

I agree with you. Bygones are bygones.

Looking at Mintpal is a bit depressing though because we are back down to 2 satoshi with a 20 mil wall and over 1 bil at 3 satoshi. I know it's not about the money with Zeit. I know it's not a get rich quick pump and dump. And I definitely plan to hold mine for a good long while. But my thoughts are that we will never attract any serious investors or get merchants interested in accepting them as payment if we can't get the value up some. Maybe I'm wrong though. But it certainly seems that there are some sinister forces at play here trying to keep the value down. 1 bil wall at 3 satoshi! Or am I not reading that right. I don't want to cause any FUD.

Anyone else can explain it better, feel free. I just wish I had something other than a few hundred Doge to throw at that wall.
full member
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Did we ever find out if the POS hashrate has been taken into account of the 6 weeks POW time? We are now 2/3rds of the way through POW if everything is on schedule or is the drop to 1 Zeit payout going to be earlier?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Come on guys let`s forger that incident and be more stronger.We have a fight to give here and  grow up more this community and make Zeit coin famous
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1001
Official Zeitcoin community ambassador
Gotta say I think i'm about done with this coin....someone can enjoy my 40M coins......with the 60BTC walls that are up I don't see much future in the coin


I would love some coins MuX6gYtHRPwDSupabSf3WeYZbXrKw3z3yS

Thank you!

YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADING VAMPIRE FUCKS

already about 20 nobodies, who as soon as there is a SNIFF of a freebie, are there with your begging bowls out.

You all make me fucking sick.

Want some ZEIT?

Then either BUY them or MINE them

STOP polluting our community with your mindless greed. this place is not for the likes of you.

*END RANT*

Angry Lion sits with sharpened claws ready - piss him off at your peril.

Any Admin here? To close his mouth....

No gonna happen. Lion is a respected member of this community. Maybe you should worry about your own mouth being closed first.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Gotta say I think i'm about done with this coin....someone can enjoy my 40M coins......with the 60BTC walls that are up I don't see much future in the coin


I would love some coins MuX6gYtHRPwDSupabSf3WeYZbXrKw3z3yS

Thank you!

YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADING VAMPIRE FUCKS

already about 20 nobodies, who as soon as there is a SNIFF of a freebie, are there with your begging bowls out.

You all make me fucking sick.

Want some ZEIT?

Then either BUY them or MINE them

STOP polluting our community with your mindless greed. this place is not for the likes of you.

*END RANT*

Angry Lion sits with sharpened claws ready - piss him off at your peril.

Any Admin here? To close his mouth....
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Gotta say I think i'm about done with this coin....someone can enjoy my 40M coins......with the 60BTC walls that are up I don't see much future in the coin


I would love some coins MuX6gYtHRPwDSupabSf3WeYZbXrKw3z3yS

Thank you!

YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADING VAMPIRE FUCKS

already about 20 nobodies, who as soon as there is a SNIFF of a freebie, are there with your begging bowls out.

You all make me fucking sick.

Want some ZEIT?

Then either BUY them or MINE them

STOP polluting our community with your mindless greed. this place is not for the likes of you.

*END RANT*

Angry Lion sits with sharpened claws ready - piss him off at your peril.

I disagree entirely.

I saw them as laughing at the troll who's going to be 'giving away his 40m' or whatever he said. Like that was going to happen.

If they wanted out, they'd just dump them and get btc for them. You wouldn't just throw them away, so for me, that was the best response.
'Fine, cya ya troll, give them up then.... oh, you're not... SHOCKER'

If it had been the regular contributors to this thread, I would 100% agree with you, but as most of them haven't said or done anything, it just looks like people who want a free hand out.

But yeah, the op was never going to give 40million away, that's still 0.8BTC even selling @2sat
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I am a Supporter of . . . . TZM & TVP
Gotta say I think i'm about done with this coin....someone can enjoy my 40M coins......with the 60BTC walls that are up I don't see much future in the coin


I would love some coins MuX6gYtHRPwDSupabSf3WeYZbXrKw3z3yS

Thank you!

YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADING VAMPIRE FUCKS

already about 20 nobodies, who as soon as there is a SNIFF of a freebie, are there with your begging bowls out.

You all make me fucking sick.

Want some ZEIT?

Then either BUY them or MINE them

STOP polluting our community with your mindless greed. this place is not for the likes of you.

*END RANT*

Angry Lion sits with sharpened claws ready - piss him off at your peril.

I disagree entirely.

I saw them as laughing at the troll who's going to be 'giving away his 40m' or whatever he said. Like that was going to happen.

If they wanted out, they'd just dump them and get btc for them. You wouldn't just throw them away, so for me, that was the best response.
'Fine, cya ya troll, give them up then.... oh, you're not... SHOCKER'
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADING VAMPIRE FUCKS

+1

Eloquently put Lion
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Crypto-missionary to the Kingdom of Rhegged
Gotta say I think i'm about done with this coin....someone can enjoy my 40M coins......with the 60BTC walls that are up I don't see much future in the coin


I would love some coins MuX6gYtHRPwDSupabSf3WeYZbXrKw3z3yS

Thank you!

YOU BUNCH OF FREELOADING VAMPIRE FUCKS

already about 20 nobodies, who as soon as there is a SNIFF of a freebie, are there with your begging bowls out.

You all make me fucking sick.

Want some ZEIT?

Then either BUY them or MINE them

STOP polluting our community with your mindless greed. this place is not for the likes of you.

*END RANT*

Angry Lion sits with sharpened claws ready - piss him off at your peril.
sr. member
Activity: 575
Merit: 250
PND DevTeam
just a thought.. 
Hey I have been using this for Dogecoin paper wallets and bulk wallets site and love it..  Looks like it wouldn't be to tough to update it for Zeitcoin anyone good at this sort of dev effort?
https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org  is the repository  http://dogeaddress.com/  dogecoin implementation   any tools options websites added to Zeitcoin add visibility as well as usefulness and therefore market demand.  Well actually we would probably use this reoository to start with like Dogecoin did   https://github.com/litecoin-project/liteaddress.org
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I am a Supporter of . . . . TZM & TVP
Damn Anon, how much FUD you trying to spread with that ego of yours?

PoS was been about for a long time since PeerCoin and used in many coins and was created to make a 51% attack even harder than pure PoW.

To do a PoS attack, the attacker would have to the biggest biggest holdings for at least 4 blocks in a row AND wait 25 minutes to see the fruits of their labour (50 confirmations required for PoS blocks) AND be lucky that their blocks were chosen to be the primary block solver for those 4 continuous blocks AND have already planned the attack 20 days in advance AND time the attack perfectly.

It's just not going to happen, there are too many variables and too much difficulty and they'd have to hold the majority of coins which could then become worthless when the attack is noticed and people dump their coins.

There are pure PoS coins, if this was going to happen, it would be done on those coins first.


You really have missed a lot of stuff here and to think that no one else other than yourself has thought of this is just .... well, I'll let you pick the words.
member
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  I was mining Zeit, for a couple of days, the wallet adress  I had in the pool was the oldest cryptorush and I did not realize.

It sent me to the zeit cryptorush wallet  ,cryptorush  tell me that I headed to a website (which does not work) or to the email address: [email protected].

Send the email and no way to answer.

Any idea where to?

Thanks in advance

translate google
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Our coin needs a push up from a big website or tv so the public knows about it
member
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It seemed to make sense from my limited understanding and lack of awareness in the specific algorithms for proof of stake


currently looking at the source code, its likely i was wrong

if only it wasn't such a disorganized mess i could of avoided this embarrassment

having a mini freak out are we? haha I understand what you getting at, but im sure this was thought of by who ever created the original concept of pos as this is a clone! fortunately there are other coins ahead of us so we can see what happens and get out before the shit hits but I highly doubt it. Please post your findings here if you dont mind

i would need someone more versed with the code to explain how it all fits together, my limited grasp is not good enough and my C++ skills needs some refreshing

it may not be possible to do enough consecutive blocks without too many interrupting valid blocks to do 51% attack altho from what i understand i cannot guarantee it cant happen
it seems possible to cause constant high difficulty and make PoW block mining impossible

im currently on the fence until someone can explain how the PoS block limitations work, the whole you need >51% supply for an attack seems to be a myth based on the code i have read

Im also not sure about this 51% business, iv read that it needs to be in the 80's for it to even be possible! I'd hope who ever came up with the concept of POS was an intelligent individual and therefore would have thought about what we are discussing.

51% allows you to maintain the longest chain and therefore set what transactions get included, you can do Denial of Service by not allowing any transaction in the blocks or double spending by making it accept in one block but then continue on an other chain with another transaction and make that one longer, making the tone the merchant thought valid, invalid.

but the possibility of this can cause panic and loss of faith in coin. someone or some group may have an interest in DOSing a coin

the more i think about it the more doubt i have about how much consideration was done for making sure PoS is infallible. Humans cannot consider everything and with code only a few understand it would be hard to catch all the possible inconsideration's in time.

well I hope for your sake you not solely invested in zeit if you so worried? at the end of the day all these cryptos are vulnerable to something so guess we have to just place our bets or find away to change things
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
It seemed to make sense from my limited understanding and lack of awareness in the specific algorithms for proof of stake


currently looking at the source code, its likely i was wrong

if only it wasn't such a disorganized mess i could of avoided this embarrassment

having a mini freak out are we? haha I understand what you getting at, but im sure this was thought of by who ever created the original concept of pos as this is a clone! fortunately there are other coins ahead of us so we can see what happens and get out before the shit hits but I highly doubt it. Please post your findings here if you dont mind

i would need someone more versed with the code to explain how it all fits together, my limited grasp is not good enough and my C++ skills needs some refreshing

it may not be possible to do enough consecutive blocks without too many interrupting valid blocks to do 51% attack altho from what i understand i cannot guarantee it cant happen
it seems possible to cause constant high difficulty and make PoW block mining impossible

im currently on the fence until someone can explain how the PoS block limitations work, the whole you need >51% supply for an attack seems to be a myth based on the code i have read

Im also not sure about this 51% business, iv read that it needs to be in the 80's for it to even be possible! I'd hope who ever came up with the concept of POS was an intelligent individual and therefore would have thought about what we are discussing.

51% allows you to maintain the longest chain and therefore set what transactions get included, you can do Denial of Service by not allowing any transaction in the blocks or double spending by making it accept in one block but then continue on an other chain with another transaction and make that one longer, making the tone the merchant thought valid, invalid.

but the possibility of this can cause panic and loss of faith in coin. someone or some group may have an interest in DOSing a coin

the more i think about it the more doubt i have about how much consideration was done for making sure PoS is infallible. Humans cannot consider everything and with code only a few understand it would be hard to catch all the possible inconsideration's in time.


some blocks i got a few seconds apart
not using TX timestamp, using the block timestamp
Code:
TX amount 11764.905757
TX date 2014-03-02 03:18:43
PoS date 2014-03-22 05:50:39

TX amount 36431.654419
TX date 2014-03-02 04:31:20
PoS date 2014-03-22 05:50:41

Code:
TX amount 35010.984549
TX date 2014-03-02 14:42:45
PoS date 2014-03-22 20:21:39

TX amount 33558.460203
TX date 2014-03-02 16:36:21
PoS date 2014-03-22 20:21:53
full member
Activity: 210
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If everything go well there is a change for zeit coin to climb at that price.Like shit happens so the dreams happens.Be positive people!!!!!!!!

Yes
Zeit coin is the product of the times!
Great Zeit coin!
Great market!
full member
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Looks like everybody watching new market.... Smiley

Of course
Only the new market will bring more profit to us!
 Smiley Smiley
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It seemed to make sense from my limited understanding and lack of awareness in the specific algorithms for proof of stake


currently looking at the source code, its likely i was wrong

if only it wasn't such a disorganized mess i could of avoided this embarrassment

having a mini freak out are we? haha I understand what you getting at, but im sure this was thought of by who ever created the original concept of pos as this is a clone! fortunately there are other coins ahead of us so we can see what happens and get out before the shit hits but I highly doubt it. Please post your findings here if you dont mind

i would need someone more versed with the code to explain how it all fits together, my limited grasp is not good enough and my C++ skills needs some refreshing

it may not be possible to do enough consecutive blocks without too many interrupting valid blocks to do 51% attack altho from what i understand i cannot guarantee it cant happen
it seems possible to cause constant high difficulty and make PoW block mining impossible

im currently on the fence until someone can explain how the PoS block limitations work, the whole you need >51% supply for an attack seems to be a myth based on the code i have read

Im also not sure about this 51% business, iv read that it needs to be in the 80's for it to even be possible! I'd hope who ever came up with the concept of POS was an intelligent individual and therefore would have thought about what we are discussing.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
It seemed to make sense from my limited understanding and lack of awareness in the specific algorithms for proof of stake


currently looking at the source code, its likely i was wrong

if only it wasn't such a disorganized mess i could of avoided this embarrassment

having a mini freak out are we? haha I understand what you getting at, but im sure this was thought of by who ever created the original concept of pos as this is a clone! fortunately there are other coins ahead of us so we can see what happens and get out before the shit hits but I highly doubt it. Please post your findings here if you dont mind

i would need someone more versed with the code to explain how it all fits together, my limited grasp is not good enough and my C++ skills needs some refreshing

it may not be possible to do enough consecutive blocks without too many interrupting valid blocks to do 51% attack altho from what i understand i cannot guarantee it cant happen
it seems possible to cause constant high difficulty and make PoW block mining impossible

im currently on the fence until someone can explain how the PoS block limitations work, the whole you need >51% supply for an attack seems to be a myth based on the code i have read
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