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legendary
Activity: 3486
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Running some new code on the stratum server as of an hour or two ago . Hoping this helps with the ongoing disconnect issues.

If you notice any other oddities let me know. It may not be the smoking gun fix but I'm hopeful.

Cheers



legendary
Activity: 1797
Merit: 1028
A side note to see if anyone feels the same...

skein just doesn't seem to earn enough... maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable.  I have seen my average slowly decrease since adding all the algos so I think I may be pulling it from the batch;  but I will leave the code at the bottom for people to paste in if they want to use it.

Interested on any others opinions....

"maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable"

not sure that makes sense from a statistical point of view.
Yes all profits are down .... almost to the level of nicehash ..it should be much higher because the coins we mine are low difficulty coins. I can see it on Minercontrol. Use to make .06 BTC a day now .016 BTC.
Then again it could be coins like DECRED that one doesn't make a profit on...that should be taken out of my jason file. It may help.

MINERCONTROL--

I gave MinerControl another look yesterday.  The configuration file is a beast!  As far as I know, Zpool and NiceHash are the two pools to configure, at least for a start.  What do you use to edit the configuration?  WordPad, or Word?, The default configuration file included in the zip is formatted too much to make sense in Notepad.  EDIT:  I cut and pasted from the MinerControl OP, and will start with just Zpool.  The cut-and-paste fits fine in Notepad.

I also notice lower payoouts from Zpool.  Like some other posters have noted in various threads, the value of altcoins seems tied to the value of ETH and BTC.        --scryptr
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1003
A side note to see if anyone feels the same...

skein just doesn't seem to earn enough... maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable.  I have seen my average slowly decrease since adding all the algos so I think I may be pulling it from the batch;  but I will leave the code at the bottom for people to paste in if they want to use it.

Interested on any others opinions....

"maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable"

not sure that makes sense from a statistical point of view.
Yes all profits are down .... almost to the level of nicehash ..it should be much higher because the coins we mine are low difficulty coins. I can see it on Minercontrol. Use to make .06 BTC a day now .016 BTC.
Then again it could be coins like DECRED that one doesn't make a profit on...that should be taken out of my jason file. It may help.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 501
A side note to see if anyone feels the same...

skein just doesn't seem to earn enough... maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable.  I have seen my average slowly decrease since adding all the algos so I think I may be pulling it from the batch;  but I will leave the code at the bottom for people to paste in if they want to use it.

Interested on any others opinions....

It's a problem on all algo's where you have high difficulty high value blocks mixed with low difficulty low value coins. If you switch to Lyra2v2, you really hope for a VTC or MONA block to be found, otherwise your contribution gets wasted on low value merged mined coins.
One of the problems with myr-gr is that saffron is only functioning on 2.5 out of 5 algos. A lot of hash rate gets wasted on rejects until one of the other algos pushes it along.
Another problem is that some junk algo's such as c11 gets bursts of high pooled hash rate far above its average hash rate.
Another issue is that the block notify mechanism cannot solve blocks as fast as block winning hashes coming in on some coins.
I would suggest a longer algo wide PPLNS time period is considered, but there are many more issues as to why an algo falls short of its estimate.

PPLNS on coin hopping pool is shooting yourself in the foot.
you don't waste hashrate, try mining solo, you will find same outcome in rejects as if you were part of a pool, try saffron or richx, with under 5 difficulty you need 2-3 gfx cards for enough block found each day, compare reject%.

 As far as I know this pool uses the PROP reward system not PPLNS, that would be bad.

In response to the first replier, yes I have solo mined both saffron and richx, particular using the myr-gr algo. It only takes a mid range GPU to get about 4 blocks an hour on that algo. RICHX doesn't have the same reject problem as SFR on that algo. The SFR reject problem is particular bad, hence the volatility in the difficulty and thus the amount of hash the stratums apply against it goes up and down with its difficulty.
The pool is neither PROP or PPLNS. On an algo such as decred with long block find times, it has PROP behaviour. On algos where blocks are frequently found, it is essentially an algo wide pay per last 5 mins reward system.
Sometimes rewards on myr-gr seem pathetic, but there can be some massive returns if you have a high hash percentage and a good luck of run on hitting the big coins. It is important to remember that the purpose of a pool is to reduce the influence of luck, to provide a more consistent return.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 506
Why is this constant?

2   1.2962%   30.9 Mh/s reject=48.7%
member
Activity: 910
Merit: 10
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd



only get rejeced shares most of the time...
i have set scrypt:10 and have only 2/29 shares accepted. normal ?
using gigabyte gtx 750 ti

Can you try with scrypt:2048?



Have tested it yesterday with both settings ( scrypt:10 and scrypt:2048 ).
Forgot to say that when I was setting scrypt:n on my config for the miner  it was using scrypt:9
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 506
A side note to see if anyone feels the same...

skein just doesn't seem to earn enough... maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable.  I have seen my average slowly decrease since adding all the algos so I think I may be pulling it from the batch;  but I will leave the code at the bottom for people to paste in if they want to use it.

Interested on any others opinions....

It's a problem on all algo's where you have high difficulty high value blocks mixed with low difficulty low value coins. If you switch to Lyra2v2, you really hope for a VTC or MONA block to be found, otherwise your contribution gets wasted on low value merged mined coins.
One of the problems with myr-gr is that saffron is only functioning on 2.5 out of 5 algos. A lot of hash rate gets wasted on rejects until one of the other algos pushes it along.
Another problem is that some junk algo's such as c11 gets bursts of high pooled hash rate far above its average hash rate.
Another issue is that the block notify mechanism cannot solve blocks as fast as block winning hashes coming in on some coins.
I would suggest a longer algo wide PPLNS time period is considered, but there are many more issues as to why an algo falls short of its estimate.

PPLNS on coin hopping pool is shooting yourself in the foot.
you don't waste hashrate, try mining solo, you will find same outcome in rejects as if you were part of a pool, try saffron or richx, with under 5 difficulty you need 2-3 gfx cards for enough block found each day, compare reject%.

 As far as I know this pool uses the PROP reward system not PPLNS, that would be bad.
hero member
Activity: 698
Merit: 500
A side note to see if anyone feels the same...

skein just doesn't seem to earn enough... maybe its the algo switching and the larger value coins don't come in regularly enough to keep it profitable.  I have seen my average slowly decrease since adding all the algos so I think I may be pulling it from the batch;  but I will leave the code at the bottom for people to paste in if they want to use it.

Interested on any others opinions....

It's a problem on all algo's where you have high difficulty high value blocks mixed with low difficulty low value coins. If you switch to Lyra2v2, you really hope for a VTC or MONA block to be found, otherwise your contribution gets wasted on low value merged mined coins.
One of the problems with myr-gr is that saffron is only functioning on 2.5 out of 5 algos. A lot of hash rate gets wasted on rejects until one of the other algos pushes it along.
Another problem is that some junk algo's such as c11 gets bursts of high pooled hash rate far above its average hash rate.
Another issue is that the block notify mechanism cannot solve blocks as fast as block winning hashes coming in on some coins.
I would suggest a longer algo wide PPLNS time period is considered, but there are many more issues as to why an algo falls short of its estimate.

PPLNS on coin hopping pool is shooting yourself in the foot.
you don't waste hashrate, try mining solo, you will find same outcome in rejects as if you were part of a pool, try saffron or richx, with under 5 difficulty you need 2-3 gfx cards for enough block found each day, compare reject%.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd



only get rejeced shares most of the time...
i have set scrypt:10 and have only 2/29 shares accepted. normal ?
using gigabyte gtx 750 ti

Can you try with scrypt:2048?



This is what setting I used when I tried this morning and never got an accepted share within a few minutes, only two rejected shares.

ok the algo must not be done right. Will shut it down for now.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd



only get rejeced shares most of the time...
i have set scrypt:10 and have only 2/29 shares accepted. normal ?
using gigabyte gtx 750 ti

Can you try with scrypt:2048?



This is what setting I used when I tried this morning and never got an accepted share within a few minutes, only two rejected shares.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd



only get rejeced shares most of the time...
i have set scrypt:10 and have only 2/29 shares accepted. normal ?
using gigabyte gtx 750 ti

Can you try with scrypt:2048?

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I am also getting mostly rejected shares with scryptn.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd



only get rejeced shares most of the time...
i have set scrypt:10 and have only 2/29 shares accepted. normal ?
using gigabyte gtx 750 ti

hrmmm I didn't see any errors I'll see if I can get some more testing on this one.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
For instance;  Skein seems to poop out lots of low value blocks... which is totally fine... but it deosn't get as many high value coins out except in groups.  So when the profitability spikes, it switches only to not see the gains as if you were on the algo the entire time.   Kinda like when the miner switched to decred for a few min here and there.   The reward down the line after you are switched off it and a block is finally found; is pretty minimal.

*edit*

Also, I have found the best switching algo combo to be X11evo, X14, X13, X17, X15 and neoscrypt...

Still doesn't make sense to me. Mining a high difficulty coin for a short period of time will often produce no gain, but when it does you get a spike in your balance. There is just more variance ("luck") involved.
The issue must be something else, maybe technical (orphans? diff mismatch?) or an error in the profitability calculation for skein.

I think it has to do with pooling combined with algo switching. All contributed shares are equal but the coins are not so you effectively
pay the same hash for a low value coin as a high value. If you're mining only one algo your share is relatively constant so it doesn't
matter as much. But if you're profit switching your share will fluctuate and it become a lottary whether a high value coin is found
while your contribution is also high.
member
Activity: 910
Merit: 10
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd



only get rejeced shares most of the time...
i have set scrypt:10 and have only 2/29 shares accepted. normal ?
using gigabyte gtx 750 ti
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
I see the scryptn port was just turned on.... as I now see the 4 posts above this one =)

I can't find any support in any release of ccminer.   What a shame.

I believe cudaminer supports scryptn but that's ancient.

spent 30 min trying to get an app with it to no avail.    gave up.
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1114
I see the scryptn port was just turned on.... as I now see the 4 posts above this one =)

I can't find any support in any release of ccminer.   What a shame.

I believe cudaminer supports scryptn but that's ancient.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
I see the scryptn port was just turned on.... as I now see the 4 posts above this one =)

I can't find any support in any release of ccminer.   What a shame.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd

is that the same algo vertcoin once had?

yeah that's right.

the way vertcoin utilized the memory increase made it such  a rough algo on the GPUs. going to leave out of my batch.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Added scryptn to the pool with MRY and some FUJI once it's sync'd

is that the same algo vertcoin once had?

yeah that's right.
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